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JustJohn

JustJohn Report 9 Jan 2013 12:34

Getting a bit serious. I love to have a laugh too. And have had some of my heartiest laughs on this thread. Many thanks to MrD, Brenda in Wales, Suzanne who knows HRH and so many others. And SueCrutch, of course - take a bow for making all this possible.

And I really hope 2013 wil be a great year for you, Sue. I have taken an interest, see. And I am quietly confident that this will be YOUR year :-) :-)

TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 9 Jan 2013 12:38

You're doing it again John
Who are you to judge if another person needs goading?
What benefit do they gain from you goading them?
You seem to have a chip on you're shoulder & the need to judge others, remember this is about people you don't know anything about in the real world.

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 9 Jan 2013 12:43

BK. Very interesting questions. Very long answers required. But the simple answer is that a pearl does not appear if the oyster has no grit.

Ideally, we all want to be fluffy and creamy oysters. Realistically (in real world) we all need a bit of grit.

No chips, No judging. Are you confusing me with somebody else?

Guinevere

Guinevere Report 9 Jan 2013 13:05

"I try very hard not to hurt anybody or their feelings - I really do. But I do like goading if I feel someone would benefit from it."

But who are you to decide if anyone would benefit? A very arrogant belief, I think, I think you are rather a poor judge of character from your expressed beliefs here.

"And I quite like being goaded if I need it - but prefer an individual goad rather than have the pack descend."

When everyone else disagrees with you it is not the pack descending. It is you being a minority of one. And wrong.

You don't want to make friends - that's fairly obvious. I think most of us joined wih that view. But surprisingly, as years go by, friendships are formed and people meet up.

I have a few very valued real life friends I first met via GR.

Gwynne

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 9 Jan 2013 13:33

Gwynne

"When everyone else disagrees with you it is not the pack descending. It is you being a minority of one. And wrong.". Sometimes not wrong at all.

Not sure if I am wrong on this thread. You all seem to think I am and Dr Lewis's behaviour cannot possibly be excused.

I have just read through his original long letter in Welsh to the weekly Welsh paper Y Cymro. I assume OP from Cambrian News is a potted version, and some of it is lost in translation.

Dr Lewis said he was polite in his letter and could not understand why she began using English. He asked her politely if she would say the amount in Welsh. When he got no further, most would have dropped the request. But he is 83 and probably a bit cranky (my judgment) and asked to see the Manager - also a Welsh speaker. The Manager took the side of the cashier even though Dr Lewis had his bank card ready to put in machine. Dr Lewis wanted the Manager himself to say the amount in Welsh, but Manager refused.

It then became a battle of wills for two stubborn men. Both Welsh speaking, by the way. Why Dr Lewis did not at this point put his shopping down and leave is not clear. He would have got far more sympathy probably.

But the Welsh speaking Manager then spoke to the police in English saying he would not pay for goods. So they were totally unaware it was over a Welsh language issue. They thought it was somebody refusing to pay.

Dr Lewis held his ground till the Manager spoke on his mobile to the police in Welsh and a Welsh PC came. The Welsh PC suggested that the cashier on the next till said the amount in Welsh to Dr Lewis, he dutifully paid, he left Spar (which he never named in his letter) and he wrote a letter to Y Cymro in Welsh protesting he could not deal in his own native Welsh language in Pwllheli.

Storm in a teacup, and still not heard much of what local people think about Conrad Davies or Dr Lewis. Robyn Lewis is 83, he is an eccentric. And he is stubborn and opinionated. Not bad traits to have. Three cheers for Robyn Lewis, I say.

TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 9 Jan 2013 13:34

Guinevere I agree with what you said & you said it very well. :-)

John I have not confused you with anybody here, I don't get confused & I am a very clear educated thinker.

You say... No chips, No judging. Are you confusing me with somebody else?
I say... Are you the peoples Judge & Jury that decide what the people need in life?
If that's what you think then you really are the fools fool.

Merlin

Merlin Report 9 Jan 2013 13:50

John ,You stated in one post , We.ll try and make him look Stupid and Chase him off Our Site. Firstly its not anyones Site, Secondly ,you don,t need anyone to make you look stupid, you do an excellent job all on your own with out help.**M** Ps. as you say you Support every thing Welsh 100%,Does that include the 4 Boyoes who beat up a young man from Birmingham almost killing him, because of his Accent?

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 9 Jan 2013 13:53

Here we go again. Think I will put my shopping down and exit stage left when the Claregate Clogger wades in with his army issue boots (Tremble, tremble)

You absolutely know the answer to your question, Merlin. So does everyone if you have presented facts of that case correctly. It is a violent and criminal act.

You of all people know exactly what I mean by "support 100% Welsh". Always have, always will.

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 9 Jan 2013 14:03

John stop getting your tights in a twist

maybe they are trying to help you ;-) ;-)

TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 9 Jan 2013 14:06

John Some people try to help you, trouble is you don't know it. To coin a phrase you said to me only the other day so I give it back to you... you're up one's own?

Merlin

Merlin Report 9 Jan 2013 14:09

You should have said The "Llandrillo-Yn-Rhos" Clogger, Not Claregate and as for your pretence of Trembling, Possibly because you want to be excused to go to the Loo.Or because you have no reply of any consequence. Which is Par for the course in your case.

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 9 Jan 2013 18:03

Both of those, Merlin. Now what were you saying? :-S

*$parkling $andie*

*$parkling $andie* Report 9 Jan 2013 18:11

Hope it wasn't the first one J,cos 4 hours is a long time, 'Oh dear what can the matter be...etc' springs to mind ;-) :-)

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 9 Jan 2013 18:19

Sandie. I am not much younger than Robyn Lewis :-D :-D

Please take pity :-( :-( No need to take the proverbial ;-)

Kay????

Kay???? Report 9 Jan 2013 19:23

A good level of education passes is needed to get into any Uni.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Jan 2013 19:38

"I don't want to make friends on this site" - well you've sure got that right

and you have no wish to meet anyone from this site? well I've met a fair number over the years and a very pleasant experience it has been

the thing is John, would anyone wish to meet you? I think not, other than to read your horoscope

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 9 Jan 2013 20:22

Absolutely fine, Ann. This site obviously gives you a lot of fun and support. I like debating things, hearing other opinions. Nasty comments just get in the way. :-D

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 9 Jan 2013 20:28

I would like to meet John I suspect he would actually quiet different in real life to what he is his on here, I think it will be a well mild manered chap who addresses you politely :-D

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 9 Jan 2013 20:33

I think so too Hayley. Have no problem with meeting anyone on here as long as they don't want to thump me without a fair trial first ;-)

And you are fairly right about what I am like. A pleasant version of Fred Elliott off Corrie. Walk on the outside of pavement, carry the shopping bags, never swear, notice when someone has made an effort.

And you will be a younger version of Katherine Jenkins :-D See, i'm not as stupid as I sound on here ;-)

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 9 Jan 2013 20:43

Younger version of Bet Lynch ( by about 2 years) and the same common accent :-D

I would certainly give you a fair trial and hmmmm iffy about the slap as I hope I give my Mum credit for bringing me up with better manners than to hit anyone who is old enough to be my dad :-0 however I strongly suspect if I discussed any of the matters that we have discussed previously I think your replies will be somewhat different :-D