Genealogy Chat

Reece

I do remember Joe Melzer - he taught English. .He wasn't the headmaster - that was John Cummings

Our very ordinary Grammar school in the east of London produced several other well known people in addition to Derek Jacobi.

The classical pianist John Lill is an old boy, as well as Anthony Pay a classical clarinetist.

Hope the antibiotics do their job and you feel much better very soon.

Arthur

Reece - so lovely to hear from you

Hope you feel better soon

Shout if you need a hand with the tree & sussex - my great aunt married an Elphick

Take care all

Arthur - what did you think about the Jane Seymour episode?

Hello friends,

Thank you Anne and Arthur - yes feeling a lot better - antibiotics helped.

Yes, you are right Joe was the English master, and the school had a fine reputation. It is now a highly admired 6th Form College. You have probably guessed that we lived in Wanstead (for 55 years).

Anne that is kind - my Elphick(e) ancestor is Sarah married James Fuller at Playden in 1684 and lived in Brede, where Sarah was born. Have you seen the picture of the house owned by the Elphickes in Chiddingly? Look up Stone Hill House - it is listed and dates from 16th century starting out as a hall house. Let me know if not and I will send you some information on it. I have traced both Fullers and Elphicke's back to c1500 but some John Fullers present a problem with so many of the same name from very large families.

Hope all are well and love <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Anne

Whilst not a traditional programme as the early series, I really'enjoyed' it.

It demonstrated that you can find out an enormous amount about your ancestors if you know where to look.

I am having trouble trying to flesh out the Nicholls line in Sudbury. They were barge builders. At least three generations were involved, yet I do not even know what type of barge it was. I have tried asking for help through a Society relating to the River Stour, but no joy.

I am a member of the Suffolk Family History Society and listed this in my interests - nobody has provided any info.

I am now writing an article that I hope will be published in their magazine and this might stir people to provide some information.

Thank you Reece - i will see if I can find a photo of the house it sounds lovely

Arthur have you added your requests to any of the other Forums - like WDYTYA magazine or you could try sending in a request to Your Family tree magazine - they seem to get a lot of response in those.

I liked the Jane Seymour one too - never realised so many normal people managed to escape - the unseen footage on WDYTYA website is good as shows her meeting a relative at the Cemetery

Be interesting to see what this week will bring - if you ever have Derek to tea don't forget the invite - i would love to hear some of his stories and i so loved him in Cadfael - watched it a few times on repeats.

Thought i would like Vicious - but don't find it that funny - but i do like the actors & would love an evening with Sir Ian Mckellen & Sir Patrick Stewart - i could talk about X men for ages.

Really enjoyed Derek Jacobi's WDYTYA. Amazing revelations and my only regret is they did not cover the period between the family mixing with UK royalty and the very poor conditions in Hackney. A very short time to lose everything.

It is amazing just how much information exists if you know where to look..

Anne
Thank you for the suggestions on how to extendmy knowledge. Will be writing on the WDYTYA Forum. Hope to report success.
I did try the Ancestry Boards - no info forthcoming

I liked the Derek Jacobi one & had the same problem - what happened to make the get so very poor - you could write & ask him

I like the WDYTYA forum its a little more formal than Genes - you don't tend to make friends like here

Never had any luck on Ancestry forum or roots chat

I thought the Jerry Hall story was more like the original WDYTYA.

The American records seem more complete than anywhere else - except maybe India when it comes to births and marriages.

Life in the borderlands between Americans and Native americans was extremely difficult and this story helped it come alive.

Ok - time to wake the thread up again

I know I have a week off - what is everyone else's excuse

Off to the S in L tomorrow to did up some plants she does not want in her new garden before she moves in - we were going to the garden centre to look for some cheap things to plant - as we have a few holes to fill. we lost a few of our old plants (well they got too woody & had to go ) & she said she had a few to dump in the skip - seems such a waste when they are healthy plants . No way are we gardeners and we don't have the money to spend really but I know they do have a few sales sometimes and I love looking round garden centres - window shopping as we cant really afford a lot. So the second hand plants are a god send for both of us.

We were going down on Monday - but the rain stopped us & its been worse today - well its not going to stop us tomorrow - rain or shine we will be digging up the plants or she will get someone round to dig them up & dump them.

I think we picked the wrong week to take a week off - at least the family tree had some word done on it and a bit of thinning & pruning on both paper & electronic tree.

We are going to find somewhere nice to go on Thursday no matter the weather - treat ourselves just the once (even if we cant afford it) as its out birthday. I am sure I can pick up some overtime next month to cover the cost

Its only a couple of times a year we splurge - rest of the time its make do

Take care all - hope to hear from some of you soon

Anne

Hope you achieve your plan with the plants.

Looking forward to WDYTYA on Thursday - Frank Gardner. The preview suggests this will be a real back to his roots programme - something missing in recent series.

What an interesting WDYTYA. for Frank Gardner. Hope the remaining ones are as interesting.

The programme was very like the initial series with a lot of really good research.

I agree Arthur - I wish there were more like this

Plants did not quite go to plan - it took over 90 mins to did up one of the Holly bushes - that was the 2 of us - help from the electrician and a passing teenager who lent a hand - took the 2 of us to lift it in the car

The roses & Hydrangea were too woody and split when we tried to dig them out - we couldn't get to the other holly bushes or Honeysuckle without digging out a lot of other plants.

All in all we were worn out & at the moment we have potted the rootball & trunk just in case it does not take & we are keeping it watered

Hopefully next year we can get some plants at the garden centre

My neighbour is digging up his honeysuckle & said we can have it - we are saving up to get the fence rebuilt one side of the back garden - so hopefully it will be done by the time he gives us the plants.

Our birthday didn't quite go to plan - but we have a nice meal out

Unfortunately back to work tomorrow

Have only just seen the Anita Rani WDYTYA.

She was in tears when told about the atrocities committed at the time of Partition, and I found it very emotional.

The best programmes include features of social history that the general public would probably not know. This was certainly the case with Partition..

I wish we had a service offered at the end of the programme by the record keeper. She was able to add her family and discovered her great great grandfather's name. I am sure the records went back even further.

All in all I thought it was an excellent programme.

I was very interested in the program and very moving

I thought the Record Keeper was amazing - the extent of his record keeping must go back hundreds of years.

i thought she showed her interest and understanding of the times

However her excitable personality at the beginning of the film drove me potty & I don't like her on Strictly - she seems far too good to be true in attitude. Not really sure what it was to start with but I really found it hard to concentrate on anything until she went to India. By the end of the program she had quietened down a lot.

Jury still out on Mark Gatiss - at least i know who he is now

I thought the Mark Gattis episode gave me a greater understanding of Ireland.

Would have liked to know how Jeremiah;s money was dissipated. Same problem as the Derek Jacobi programme where they leave a gap that in Derek's case saw his family going from friends of royalty to paupers in maximum two generations.

I pop in from time to time just to see what is happening in your Worlds.

Regards to all.

Always lovely to see you Robert - Hope you are keeping well

I am, Tabitha - hope you are well too.

Hi everyone

We've been away, taking another train trip across Canada, to Montreal and back. The idea being to see the Fall (autumnal) colours on the Prairies and in Ontario and Quebec.

It was great fun ................ apart from the 10 hour delay getting into Toronto on the first leg, which led to us having to be put on a bus to Montreal. Normally the train company would have put us up in Toronto and re-scheduled us onto a Montreal train the next day, but there were no hotel rooms available ........... a Madonna concert, a big ice hockey game, and another big sporting event.

It took 6 hours to get to Montreal, we walked in to the lobby of the Fairmont hotel at 4:15 AM. Naturally they had let our room for that night go, but they managed to find another one for us. We fell into bed at 4:30 am, slept for 4 hours, then got up and had breakfast, and continued with our day!

Still, we managed to do everything that we wanted to do. And we even saw the autumnal colours on the Prairies and in northern Ontario ............. along with huge skeins of geese flying south. There must have been 200 or more in those skeins.

The fall colours are golden and yellow ............... mainly from the white birches on the Prairies, and the larches in northern Ontario ........ but there were occasional flashes of red and orange from maples.