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Hello Arthur,
Yes, I thought the presenters were awful - I tried to ignore them most of the time and just enjoy the spectacle on the Thames. I would have loved to be there, too.

I notice your research interest in Suffolk - I have just found a relative, John Scott who emigrated in 1851 on the Emperor and on the ship's indent records place of birth, Botomm end, Suffolk. Could be anywhere, yes? Bosmere is the nearest I can think of - says he is 22 years of age but that could be right or not. Nearest one I can find is b. 1834 Debenham making him 17 in 1851. I may have to buy the records for the ship from NSW to see if there is anything else on there.

Do you have any antique maps or know where I could look up more information, please. Just a thought no need for an immediate answer.

Best wishes.
Reece

Hello everyone,

I do hope that you are all well. Susan I would love to meet up next year.

I see I can't spell "Bottom" !

Having a "sit down" and a search around and I have just come up with "Burton End, Haverhill, Suffolk". Sounds more like it and the birth date fits with his age on the shipping indent. So more confident about ordering the record from NSW now.

It is lovely and sunny here this morning and the bees are buzzing around the garden already and I have seen a couple of swifts wheeling over the trees and ring neck parakeets are screeching by while the crows, jays and magpies terrorise the blackbirds nesting in our garden. The robins and dunnocks have fledged and are now in hiding.

Is anybody watching "Spingwatch" ?

Love to everyone and hoping all is well.

Reece <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Reece - sounds wonderful - its very grey & damp here on the southcoast today - glad i did the washing yesterday - all dried - ironed - etc now - had a whole weekend off (dont faint Cynthia) all the housework finished by 9am this morning

Free to do family tree work - feels very strange - we didn't win the Lotto so still a slave to the bills - we have a week off in June for our wedding anniversay - would have been nice to get away for a few days - but that wont happen - still a week away from work is better than nothing.

I would love to meet up next year too Sue & Reece - we will have to find a meeting point close to all of us.

Reece you hit the 3000 on the thread wonder how long this thread will keep going

Will pop back in again later Take care all <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

I noticed we have past the 3,000 mark when I came on here AND it's two years since we started again about being deleted..... :-D


Good to see that I am not the only one who thought the presenters were rubbish at the various events. I was listening to something on the radio in the car and it seems as though folk weren't impressed with the radio coverage either :-(


I agree Arthur, Richard Dimbleby would be spinning! So much seems to be geared towards youthfulness with the BBC but they forget that age and experience brings it's own benefits.


What with the Jubilee, visits from physios for my OH and half term, I don't know whether I am coming or going.........keep getting my days mixed up....... :-S

Hopefully, back to normal this week. Well, as normal as I can be of course!


It's taken me ages to get over the fact that Anne has had some time off...Dear oh dear, what is the world coming to.... ;-)


Lovely to see Reece again....I imagine you are finding all sorts of things tucked away and, of course, you have to have a sit down and check through them........ :-D


I'm helping my friend (the one who was poorly) to sort out her cupboards etc. She is managing fine at home but wants to sort through things. It takes twice as long as it should because she has forgotten about most of it so it all has to be investigated etc......good fun though.... :-D


My grandson is 13 today so we are off to see him shortly.


Take care - love to all Cx <3 <3

A puzzle - that hopefully someone can shed light on.

Thomas James Nicholls, born June 1852 in St Pauls, Covent Garden, married Charlotte Scowen, daughter of Robert Scowen. Charlotte was born in Islington in 1858.

Charlotte married for a second time to William Sheppard 26 Aug 1900 in St Mathew, Islington. She is a widow and he is a widower. Her father's name is given as Robert so I think the marriage is correct. I have also found a possible death for Thomas James Nicholls in 1896, although the age is too young.

My query is the following:

On the 1901 Census, William & Charlotte are living in Islington - 22 Queensbury St - William Sheppard is shown as the Head, Charlotte is shown as his wife and there are three children shown Florrie, Nellie and William Page. How can this be? Is it that all the children have a middle name of Page (possibly their dead mother's maiden name) or what?

Would welcome any thoughts.

Thanks in advance

hello all

reece you do describe the scene so well i felt i was sitting in your garded

i have just watched the antque road show i thourght it was very good i was pperticually interested in norman hartnel and the queens dresses as i could have worked in the workrooms but he was very mean with his wages he was only offering 2£ 10 shillings a week so i took another job at the white house in new bond street for 4£ 15 shillings

i went to tec scholl when i was 13 and the dress makeing teacher had worked on the queens wedding dress

it has been awarm and sunny day here a realy nice day

<3 to every one

sally w :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Sounds very exciting Sally - did you work on lots of stunning evening dresses?

My nan was a Tailoress and did lots of interesting work - her sister in law was a Milliner - if only they had the money - they could have had a great working arrangement - trouble was as soon as you got married & had a family that was the end of your working life in those days.

Those were the good old days

I was nearly 17 when I left school - I liked junior school but hated senior school as the girls were horrible & treated me very badly - that’s why I didn't stay on for my exams. I use to be in a theatre group at junior school too as we had a proper theatre & stage - but it was all knocked down for development.

I ended up doing my exams & a degree after I left as I was there for me then and the people were so much nicer & really friendly. It made such a difference.

Oh well - enough of the doom & gloom

Such fun all the footie on the TV (I don't think) :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P - nothing to watch at all except repeats - loads of the stuff on sky have finished and they are not being renewed either - so you have to make up the ending you would have wanted.

I hate it when they cancel a show and don't provide a decent ending - you get left hanging in mid air. Looks like they have cancelled Alcatraz right on a cliff hanger. They have cancelled Harry's Law too & it was a really good evenings viewing.

Never mind - Murdoch has signed up for a 6th season - just hope they renew Body of proof now.

Well off to nose around the boards & see what’s going on.

Take care all <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Hi Everyone

We have had very bad storms here in West Australia ,more to come at lunchtime so I am not looking forward to it .

The strong winds get me very nervous,we have trees down everywhere and the power is forever going on and off.

Anne I would love to catch up with who ever I can do when I get there ,my OH and I do not mind travelling around we plan to do it anyway.
Always get London in the trips.

I have to get off now as I don't know when the power is going to go off on me.
Much of Perth is still waiting to get there power back on .

Sally love the antique roadshow never miss it

Will try to get back again tonight if the powers that be let me.

Love to you all
Suex
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Hi all
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Sue .............. we saw photos of Perth on the Weather Network on TV while we were away. It looked awful!

Reece ............. lovely to see you on here xx

I am soooooooooo glad that we had our own commentators for the Jubilee events. I've never thought them as good as the old BBC lot ........ but it sounds as thought they were miles and miles better than your lot!


Arthur .................. I'll have a look, see what I can suggest for you :-D





We got back quite late on Sunday evening


not a very good weekend ...............................


pouring rain on Thursday ..... hate driving the freeway when it's doing that!

showers and COLD on Friday and Saturday

Then ............. lovely and sunny on Sunday driving home ............ so had to dig to the bottom of one of the bags to find the sun lotion!


The cabin had been broken into again, as it was this time last year ................. and, like last year, it was probably in the last couple of weeks. Once again doors were left wide open, but there was no sign of water damage OR of animal visits (ie, no droppings, or such things).

They took a variety of things, ranging from the old but great gas-powered lawn mower to 2 pairs of Wellington boots to long-handled garden spade and 2 rakes, but the piece de resistance was the one very old work shirt that was paint splattered and needing a wash (or disposal).

They missed the under-the-bed storage drawer that had OH's tools such as the Maul, Machete, 2 axes, (all good quality and expensive), the radio and the coffee thermos.

We've now changed our plans of "selling some time", to "get rid as soon as possible".

We spent Saturday packing the car with as much stuff as we could.


This morning (ie, Monday), OH had to phone the RCMP station in the town near the cabin to report the theft


We stopped by the station on Friday to report it ................. to find a notice on the door ................


It closes at 4 pm on Friday, and is closed on Saturday and Sunday.

Of course, it was after 4 pm!


There was a phone number to use if you NEEDED to speak to a constable .................................


.............. we decided that we did not NEED to speak to a policeman to report a burglary when we could only say "between August last year and June this year" (even though our suspicions are sometime in the last 2 weeks).

so he had to phone and report it!


This evening, he went out, and I got to talk to a very nice sounding Mountie
:-D :-D :-D

We have to fax a list of what went missing, it will be circulated to members of the detachment in case they come across stolen property ............ none of it was very expensive. No-one leaves "good" things in cabins ............... but OH does like good tools, so they are probably the most valuable.


It will go into the annual report, and allows them to keep tabs on activity in "cabin country".


I think it was probably "kids" in their late teens/early 20s.



On Saturday, we drove back from the cabin into the nearest small town about 45 minutes too late to see a small Cessna plane take off from the airport, try to go under the overhead wires at the edge of the main road, but hit the telephone wires then a huge restaurant sign on the other side of the road, turn upside down, and slide across the parking lot until it hit a building.


All 3 people walked away with very minor injuries .............


......................... but it was the talk of the town!!!


Google "100 Mile House plane crash" if you want to see more





what a weekend!!!




take care everyone




s
xx

Arthur

I'm not sure what is going on ............

....... but this is the Charlotte from the 1901 Census in 1911

1911 Census

Name: Charlotte Sheppard
Age in 1911: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Mother In Law
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Islington
Civil parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 130 York Road, Islington, London N
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 37
Estimated Marriage Year: 1874
Occupation: FLOWER MANUFACTURES
Registration district: Islington
Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration district: Barnsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Piece: 899

George Brown 25
Florence Brown 23
George Rubein Brown 4
Minnie Brown 1
Charlotte Sheppard 55
Meillie Page 19 b. Clerkenwell, sister-in-law
William Page 15 b. Clerkenwell, brother-in-law


spellings a bit off!!

Births Dec 1906 (>99%)

Brown George Reuben Islington 1b 270




There has to be something wrong, but I can't see what!!




I've been trying to find a marriage for Charlotte to a soembody Page between Thomas James death and marriage to William



or maybe she left William and married bigamously, or lived common-law




those are only my ideas!





s
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Sylvia

Sorry to hear of your troubles at the cabin. Thank goodness they didn't look under the bed!

Thanks for looking into my mystery.

I tried to find a marriage for William Sheppard where he took on step children, but so far no luck.

Also investigating Minnie Nicholls, the child of Charlotte's marriage to Thomas James Nicholls. Curiously, on the 1881 Census she is with her Nicholls grandparents, on the 1891 Census with her grandmother Charlotte Scowen - she continues to live with her and is shown on 1901 and 1911 Census, where Charlotte is the Head aged 79.

Will continue looking as this is intriguing.

My word, a lot of reading to do today! :-D

I saw that 'royal' episode of Antiques Roadshow and thought it fascinating to hear the stories from the people as well as what they brought.


My mother-in-law was a tailoress, and a very good one too. Sadly, my sewing skills are extremely minimal... :-(


Such a shame about your cabin Sylvs........it does rather sound like kids playing around though.

Nice to see that you've helped Arthur out - had a feeling you would come to the rescue :-D



Have been quite busy. OH has had an inflatable mattress lift put on the bed. Trouble is, both sides of the mattress go up so I'm not sure how we'll cope. We can only try......... :-S It may mean that we have to go for single beds.


Just watching Silk......very good.

Night all......Cx <3 <3

hello all have just got back on site after being off since yesterday :-| :-| :-|

had a tip on facebook how to get back onasimple one as i could not understand ones they gave erler doh

sylvia what an adventure you did not need


<3 sally w

Sylvia - what a shame - cant trust anyone these days

Can't get in to Silk - does not seem to work for me

Sounds dodgy your mattress Cynthia - It sounds like it has a life of its own

I would like one of those chairs with built in foot rest & recliner.

One day my boat will come in or we win the lotto & I willg et a chance at luxury.

Anyway - better go off & finish lunch - Oatcakes today - on their own - they all think i am mad here - dry oatcakes & water for lunch - i love it

Had real system problems yesterday - could not get GR to store my message - had to copy over to email & then go back in later & still it wouldn't go. :-| :-| :-| :-| :-| :-|

Take care all
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Hi Sue

and everyone
xxxx



It has been very cool here the last 2 days! I'm sitting here with a stole wrapped around my shoulders ......... I have this mentality "it's June, I do not need the heating on"


I think I will be changing my mind very soon :-D




s
xx

Hello everyone,

We all seem to be having lots of different experiences - sorry about the cabin Sylvia, how irritating for you both. Yes, I put the gas fire on in the evenings and put a lovely Australian wool shawl over my legs when I'm watching the television. I don't read until I get into bed and then for only half an hour or less if I am enjoying Book at bedtime on R4.

Ann, is that some sort of special diet? I have to have cheese with my oatcake (1) and pineapple or apple juice!

Hope you are getting used to that special bed lift Cynthia - my sister in Sydney has Parkinsons and can no longer speak to me on the 'phone. She has to have a lot of help
but is still at home with her husband, who soldiers on bravely and says it might not be long before she must go into full time high dependence care. It will be very difficult as she has always been so independent.

Thinking of Evelyn and Robert and his wife and sending all good wishes and <3 <3 <3 <3

R

A fresh pair of eyes needed

Referring to my earlier query that Sylvia assisted me, I have searched without success to find Thomas James Nicholls and his wife Charlotte Harriet Scowen on the 1881 Census and the 1891 Census.

Their child, Minnie Nicholls born 1877 appears to have been abandoned to grandparents - paternal in 1881 and maternal grandmother in 1891.

I know that Charlotte Harriet married in 1900 as a widow. I believe Thomas James died after 1890, but why nnothing on an 1881 Census.

Any help greatly appreciated. hope all necessary info is here, but rap my knuckles if not. :-)

Reece - how sad for your sister & her being so far away from you too

We are with the outlaws this weekend - so I will be absent from the thread - aparently we are going to have Gale force winds tomorrow - & we are visiting the east coast - hope we dont get blown away on a gust - with out combined weight - very unlikely anyway.

Just for a change I am working 5am till 8am tomorrow then leaving straight away for the East coast - its going to be a very very long day - probably fall asleep in their lounge during the afternoon.

Reece not a new diet - i do like my oatcakes - 6 or 7 dry oatcakes & a small bottle of water - I often have that for lunch - or i have a couple of handfulls of nuts & seeds (OH thinks I only eat bird food) occasionally orange juice as well - I can proudly say I have lost 8lbs in weight & kept it off for at least 2 weeks now :-D ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) :-D

Only another couple of stone to lose (I wish) - if I did exercise I woudl lose more - but thats too much like hard work and its no fun either.

One day i will be back to my ideal weight - as soon as I hit 35 - bang pile on those pounds.

Well must away - Love to all the missing ones Take care all

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Hi Everyone

Things have calmed down a bit now for how long is anyone guess.

Sylvia sorry to hear they have been at your cabin again ,it would be the same here you can't leave anything for too long or else it just gets stolen or smashed just for fun.

My log fire is gong flat out, by the way it is freezing

The world has gone mad I think .
So looking forward to the Tour De France ,Olympics and the cricket,will have sore eyes by the time it all finishes.

Having fun doing look ups again on the boards,I am a bit rusty though.

Anne I have been going to get to my Idea weight for years but I never get there,will do my best before I come back to the UK next year.

We have just got in from visiting the MIL so I am going to now get myself a stiff drink I deserve it.

Nice to see you back Reece and a big Definite yes on that meet up next year.

Love to you all,just started to rain again only drizzle this time.

Suex :-D :-D :-D <3 <3 <3

The mattress lifter is going back! It just wasn't suitable so, it looks as though he will stay in his recliner where he is comfortable.

The neuro nurse came yesterday and did the special exercies with him. It all helps towards keeping him mobile.


I went for my cholesteral results yesterday and they are far too high.. :-(
So it's a case of upping the fruit and veg and getting more exercise. I have been given a pedometer and I put down how many steps I take a day. Managed over 6,000 yesterday because we went for a walk but Fridays are quiet days for me and the weather is too bad to walk in so I guess it will be a low reading tonight.


It's the cutting down on the choccy which is going to be difficult as I often sit here and nibble...........have obviously nibbled too much :-(
What's more, I pulled a filling out with a toffee the other day.... :-( :-(


We've just had thunder and lightening - I love storms - but this one didn't last long enough for me.. :-D


Lovely to see you all. Take care, Cx <3