Genealogy Chat

ok im confused what is/was a barnardos child ?

That's the mother's maiden name.

Rose

These names are in trees on this site.

Use the Search trees option at the top.

There's a Ted who has Edward William in his tree.

Rose

So we all assumed wrongly that "Barnardo's child" meant that he was a "home child", a child who was sent to Canada or Australia.

I very definitely did a bit of searching on the name Reffold the other day ...

Can't find whatever thread that was about, but look here

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1134816

A thread from 2009 by Michael Edward about the same thing to which he never replied.


His death?

Name: Edward William Reffold
Birth Date: 19 Aug 1936
Date of Registration: Sep 1997
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Maidstone
Registration County: Kent
Register number: B67C
District and Subdistrict: 5691B
Entry number: 72


Did the Reffold couple adopt him?

By 1936, people didn't just keep babies they found, I think, so they must have been the couple who adopted him from Barnardo's.

Or was he given the name Reffold for the people who found him, and taken in by Barnardo's then?

Actually, if that is your grandfather's death -- is it? -- I'm not sure that any of the story is true.

This seems to be his birth:

Name: Edward W Reffold
Mother's Maiden Surname: Clifton
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1936
Registration district: Malling
Registration County: Surrey,Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1570


You need to get that birth certificate for more information about his parents.

Births Sep 1909
Clifton Mary Eveline Tonbridge 2a 863

Rose

Oops, I got passed by there.


Michael Edward, you are the one who called your thread "barnodo's child", and we assumed you meant Barnardo's.

Why did *you* say that??

Barnardo's was an organization that maintained homes for orphaned children or children whose parents could not care for them.

i was told my grandad was a barnardos child

i have very limited knologe of my greandad but that name has come up in mine befor e

Michael,

It's really looking as though that story isn't correct. His parents were still alive into the 1970s and 1980s.

Rose

So he may have been orphaned or his parents couldn't care for him.

Do we definitely have the right person -- the person who died in Kent in 1997?

His parents lived to old ages:

Name: Mary Evelyn Reffold
Birth Date: 6 Jul 1909
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1983
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Eastbourne
Registration County: East Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 0577

Name: William Edward Reffold
Birth Date: 28 Dec 1899
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1976
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Maidstone
Registration County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 1754

Looks like he had a lot of siblings, some of whom are probably still alive.

Rose

could this be a possible

1911 census transcription details for: Berry Greeen Stretham

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN9213 RG78PN492 RD184 SD1 ED6 SN65


Reg. District: Ely Sub District: Haddenham
Parish: Thetham Enum. District: 6
Address: Berry Greeen Stretham
County: Cambridgeshire

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
AYRES, Ernest Head Married M 38 1873 Farm Labourer Chatteris Cambs
AYRES, Ellen Wife Married
16 years F 37 1874 Housekeeper Essex Southminster
AYRES, Ernest Son Single M 14 1897 Farm Labourer Essex East Ham
AYRES, Nellie Daughter F 1 1910 Cambridgeshire Stretham
ARKLE, Albert Boarder M 11 1900 School Northumberland Chevington
REFFOLD, William Edward Boarder M 11 1900 School Surrey Hambleton
COPELAND, Henry William Boarder M 11 1900 School London Brixton
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I was just about to say that ;) -- nine children in total. Edward had eight brothers and sisters.

He was born in the mid-1930s. Perhaps times were very hard and they did place him and maybe other children with Barnardo's.


You should contact Barnardo's as suggested at the beginning of the thread to ask.

But first, if you search family trees here at GenesReunited as Rose suggested, for

surname Reffold
born in Kent
1942 +/- 10 years

you will find that the same person she mentioned has several of those children in their tree, and is probably one of those children themself.

That person is who you should contact, if you don't already know the person.


It could even be that the person with those names in their tree is hoping to get in touch with families of their brothers and sisters, if the children were split up at young ages.

yes i beleive that these are them as i was named after my grandad and my dad was trevor edward reffold son of edward william {my grandad}

2 people also have Trevor in their tree.

What about your dad's sisters? Do they know anything?

Rose

wow u guys are awsome it would have taken me years to find all this out

Michael Edward, are you following the advice?

Click on Search Trees, the button up near the top of this page.

Search for what I said.

surname REFFOLD
born in KENT
born in 1942 plus-or-minus 10 years

All the names you will see are Edward's brothers and sisters.

Then you click on "Find out more" beside the name of the "Tree owner".

I was mistaken about who that might be earlier; it seems the person is related to Edward's mother (as Rose had already said). The tree owner may not know anything about Edward's brothers and sisters. But the first thing you need to do is ask.

Ted also has Micheal in his tree.

Rose

yes my dad had a sister called tracy and suzanne

According to the census image there is a Fanny Refford age 39 years and a single woman with 1 year old William Edward.


1901 census transcription details for: Union Workhouse, Hambledon

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 618 Folio: 118 Page: 4


Reg. District: Hambledon Sub District: Witley
Parish: Hambledon Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: Hambledon St Peter City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Hambledon
County: Surrey

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
REFFOLD, William Edward Pauper Single M 1 1900
Hambledon
Surrey
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