Genealogy Chat

When Ann was baptised in 1883, the family were living at 36 Ion Square.

I'm sure I've looked at that address in recent weeks...?
Perhaps Rose remembered other threads about this family ?

Gwyn

Thanks,Gwyn. Wasn't sure if it was Ion or Ton or something else!

Maureen

Interesting that the same person baptised some of the children, but when Henry was baptised in 1881 his mother Sarah was recorded as Sarah York, but 2 years later the vicar referred to her as Sarah Chandler.

Gwyn

Just an aside.
My dad wasn't registered in his year of birth (1926), but was registered 4 times (5 if you include the one that was crossed out!) when he was adopted in 1942 - the year he joined the Navy - and pesumably needed a birth certificate!
Gran always hinted that he was born in Juarez, Spain, but I don't go with that - however, his dad may have come from there.
I've tried to get his birth certificate, to see if a father is mentioned (he had his mother's maiden name) but the GRO always seem to come up with 'problems'!!

Maureen,

Thank you from the bottom of my heart. They match what I have! :o) you are very kind for taking the time to help me. I have had a look on freebmd for a Chandler - York marriage and cant find one as yet, but they are not fully transcribed, so that is probably why. But there is no doubting that they are the family I have been looking for!

Shame my William isn't on the baptism list, or Mary (another sister). But I am very grateful to you for your help. And Rose too for noticing such a miniscule link in the first place.

He had a very interesting job in 1901....a scavenger! They hit on very hard times around Elizas birth.

With my very best wishes, an extremely happy nd grateful Caroline!

Gwyn in Kent and Maggiewinchester,

I'm sorry it takes me a while to catch up on what is being said, I'm not the quickest of typists!

Gwyn, That is an interesting observation that you have made. Perhaps they didnt marry straight away?

Maggie, That must be frustrating for you, And it must make it virtually impossible to go back further.

Best wishes and many thanks for responding and sharing information with me. Caroline.

Hi Caroline,

I worked out who you were looking for by clicking on your name to get your surname. I worked backwards from there knowing that it was someone on your dad's side and called Billie in 1901.

Rose

Rose,

Thank you! For a moment I thought you were psychic! Lol! Again, thank you so very much for taking the time to help me. With your idea, it opened up a whole new possibility. And from there Maureen kindly sent the baptism details for them all. So, if it hadn't been for you and all the other lovely ladies who replied to my plea, then I would have drawn a blank again, and probably resided myself to never really finding out about them!

With very best wishes and sincere thanks Caroline.

Why can't this be him?
Births Mar 1885
CHANDLER William Bethnal Green 1c 201

Hi Ozi,

Thank you for replying. I'm pretty sure that I have that BC in my folder (I have at least 5 that weren't him!), and it's one I discounted. As none of it matched to what I already had.

Best wishes Caroline.

1891 England Census
Name: William Chandler
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England
Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillips
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 15 Newcastle St

Occupation: scholar

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green North
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Chandler 32 - General Carman <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Sarah Chandler 32
Henry Chandler 9
Ann Chandler 7
William Chandler 5
Mary Chandler 2

In 1901 Henry is a Scavenger on Vestry. Harry (Henry jnr) is a capsule maker. Hard times indeed!

Hi Ozi,

Thank you for looking that up for me, I have managed to track him down through all the census years from 1891 - 1911, that is how I found out all his siblings names. Which came as quite a shock I can tell you! As I said previously, my Dad thought he only had one uncle!

Best wishes Caroline.

Can't seem to see Henry or Sarah in 1881.

It could be that one or both were married before and York might not be Sarah's maiden name.

Rose

Ozi,

Indeed they were hard times for many families. I believe that in 1901 they were one step away from the workhouse. Or so it was put to me when I happened to mention it to someone at work.
Caroline

Does that mean the BC you have for William born Bethnal Green does not have Henry and Sarah as parents?

Ozi

Hello Rose,

Is that on the 1881 census? I dont think I've had that much luck finding Henry either....!

Caroline.

Ozi,

The names on the certs that I have the fathers were Samuel on one, John on another, no name on two! Cant recall the other one at mo. But the mothers were Marys or Janes etc.

Caroline.

Here are some of the births:

Births Dec 1881
YORK Henry Bethnal Green 1c 29_

Births Dec 1883
YORK Ann Bethnal Green 1c 184

Births Sep 1888
YORK Mary Bethnal Green 1c 147

Births Jun 1891
York Richard Bethnal Green 1c 160

Births Jun 1893
York Thomas Bethnal Green 1c 151

Births Dec 1895
Chandler Charles Bethnal G. 1c 137

Births Jun 1898
Chandler James Bethnal G. 1c 136

Births Mar 1901
Chandler Eliza Shoreditch 1c 106

Rose

Emmie in 1901 must be James.

Rose

Hi Rose,

That makes perfect sense! I couldn't find Henry, William, Ann or Richard as Chandlers. But now the connection has been made it appears to be slotting into place nicely!
Thanks again to your persistance.
Caroline.