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Robert Kleeman nee Bryant, born 1951, died 1995

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AustinQ

AustinQ Report 13 Jun 2016 13:22

It's all got a bit confusing so just to recap:

Winifred Mapp and George Kinnersley married in 1931 Brentford.

Winifred and George have two daughters- one of them being Mary Kinnersley born 1932 Willesden.

It's likely that their daughter Mary married Edward Bryant 1950 Willesden. They have son Robert. Mary and Edward live with Mary's Mum, Winifred until 1956.

Mary's father George died in 1951 and her Mum, Winifred, remarries in 1956 to Herbert Kleeman.

Winifred died in 1985 Brent Middlesex

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 13 Jun 2016 15:05

thanks so much for your help and advice - I'll try and pick this all apart when I get home and run it past my partner to see if anything sounds familiar!

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 13 Jun 2016 18:45

Had a chat with my partner and looks like we're finally getting somewhere!

It looks like:
Robert Kleeman (nee Bryant) is the son of Mary Kinnersley and Edward Bryant.
They were apparently living with Mary's parents for several years (Robert not on the electoral roll but no reason in early years to assume he wan't with his parents).
For some reason in the late 1950's Robert is left with his maternal grandmother (Winifred) and her new husband Herbert.
Robert would have had no memory of his maternal biological grandfather, as he died the year Robert was born, so probably regarded Herbert as his grandfather/father figure and I can only assume this was the reason for the name change later in life.
We know his mother Mary didn't die but I think she may have remarried as we are now of the understanding Robert may have later had several half siblings.

Thankyou so much everyone for your help - any further ideas much appreciated!

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 13 Jun 2016 19:24

Looking at the marriage indexes Mary Kinnersley marries to Bryant under Mary and Mary W.

There is a later marriage 1964 Epping that could be for her. It looks like she had already been using her husband's surname as she is also listed under his name.

Search the birth indexes for Surname Janes- Mother's maiden name Kinnersley. There is a possible 1964 birth.

I can't give more details as this person is possibly living. If you have any problems please message me.

I have to go out now, but will have another look at this in the morning.