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advice on adoption & agencies London from the 30s

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G83

G83 Report 22 Oct 2015 12:58

Hello all

adoption in the 30s in london in particular clapton, hackney does anyone know of any agencies involved in adoption and children being taken to other countries. In particular agencies that used a choose from a photograph method? I already know its not a legalised adoption in the uk and have had this confirmed by the GRO and the birth certificate does not state Adopted. But im now focusing on agencies that would of or could of been involved as must of been one for this photograph choice method being used. Child was taken to Ireland. I have applied to the irish authorities for a search to be done there as i am told its possible a legal adoption could of took place there but thats not a guarantee so want to try every avenue i can here. There is no record of this person in the UK at all except her birth. I have appealed for help with this family before but its help and advice needed on adoption in 1930 and agencies and any avenues i can try for any information

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 22 Oct 2015 14:51

Children were sent to both Canada and Australia - search for Home Children and the name of the country.
What makes you think the child was 'picked' from a photo?

G83

G83 Report 22 Oct 2015 14:55

The family was told the child apparently went to ireland. The sister of the mother chose the child a very pretty white lacey dress she was taken somewhere a photo was taken and an irish family chose her from a photo.

They had contact a few months on saying she was doing well and they had renamed her Clodaugh but there was no surname or forwarding address.

Child was born out of wedlock and to a married man and the mother of the person who had the child forced her to give the child up

Dea

Dea Report 22 Oct 2015 15:26

Can't make the advanced search on here work but there is a previous thread on here with more info which will prove useful to anyone trying to help - can you please post a link to it so others can see the info already found.

Dea x

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 22 Oct 2015 15:59

http://www.cathchild.org.uk/contact/

Links to the Catholic Childrens Society if you think the religion is relevant. Their website does include a timeline showing they were active since before the 1900 s

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 22 Oct 2015 16:09

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1355531

(Surname Nunn Tricky one been seeking years)

(above one perhaps)

Chris :)

G83

G83 Report 22 Oct 2015 16:37

Yes thats where i was asking for help in relation to her and the family but this is just for advice on agencies involved in children going to other families i still think some agency was involved as a picture was chosen but its finding possible agencies i cant seem to do so x

Kay????

Kay???? Report 22 Oct 2015 20:46

49 Russell Hill Road, Purley, Surrey CR8 2XB

020 8668 2181

[email protected]


I dont know if above can help,but worth a try,,,,,,they have records for Cabrini Childrens Soc,but may be able to liase with other agencies in Ireland,


Southwark Catholic Rescue Soc,
Southwark Catholic Childens Soc.

G83

G83 Report 22 Oct 2015 22:08

Great il give them.a try I had hoped the photo selection may spark something in someone's knowledge x

G83

G83 Report 23 Oct 2015 10:30

Hi Kay i have tried the email above keeps being returned mailer demon x

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Oct 2015 12:02

Ah hem?

How about the link I posted earlier?? If its not relevant, then say so.

http://www.cathchild.org.uk/contact/

G83

G83 Report 23 Oct 2015 12:06

appologies i have emailed them thank you for the link x

G83

G83 Report 23 Oct 2015 12:06

appologies i have emailed them thank you for the link x

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Oct 2015 12:09

You're forgiven ;-)

G83

G83 Report 23 Oct 2015 12:11

lol Thank you however i dont know but it was worth a try but her religion on her discharge notes on the Hackney Hospital creed is C of E but i will try anything to be honest as you just never know. All im sure of is someone was involved as the child was chosen by a photo so it shows there has to of been :-)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Oct 2015 12:26

In that case, possibly not - have you tried Barnado's?

Church of England Childrens Society? From their web page - I'm leaving the phone numbers as its a 'public' organisation

If you are someone who was adopted via The Church of England Children's Society, please contact them directly:

The Children's Society
Edward Rudolf House
Margery St.
London
WC1X 0JL

Telephone: 020 7841 4400

If you are someone who was adopted via The Church Adoption Society the organisation to contact in the first instance for help in tracing information about your adoption would be PACT (Parents and Children Together)

Telephone 0800 731 1845, service available on weekdays from 10am to 1pm.

Or write to PACT at 36 Causton Street, London SW1P 4AU.
......

I did know children who, in the late 1940's mid 1950's who were adopted from them. They mentioned their parents went to a Nursery and 'Chose' the child. No mention of a photo although the adopting parents had been put down for a different infant.
If the adopting parents couldn't travel from Ireland, it would be logical to send photos first.
No harm in asking the society!

G83

G83 Report 23 Oct 2015 12:38

Fabulous and yes i have emailed the childrens society i believe this morning i had an online chat with them and was then diverted to an email they gave me a phone number too but that was 0207 841 4567 so different.

I am also wondering if you know of this basically the address born on her birth certificate is 230 high street lower clapton now i know she spent from that day also in hackney hospital but if she was born in the hospital would it not say so? also 230 high street was not her address as she was infact from urswick road lower clapton. im just wondering if infact its possible she was in a unmarried mothers home or some such?

thank you

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Oct 2015 12:51

G83, you might find this site interesting, scroll down for the comments, one of which is :

"Hi Great pictures.Like you I love history of my home area.I was born in the Mother’s home at Lower Clapton Road,Hackney "

http://www.yeahhackney.com/photos-from-hackneys-history-1920s-30s/

Info on the home

http://health.hackneysociety.org/page_id__184_path__0p4p.aspx

"The Mothers’ Hospital in Lower Clapton Road was part of an extensive network of social provision provided by the Salvation Army in Hackney from the late 19th century until the present day"

G83

G83 Report 23 Oct 2015 13:01

Hi Rose i actually found this site this morning just a short while ago and looked at it i was not sure if its the same as the birth cert states 230 High street, Lower Clapton so i was unsure. Now going to look at the info on the home link see if i can establish a connection.

I have just spoke with PACT they was known as the national adoption society 1916-1931 the lady i need is off today so ive rambled on to someone and shes going to forward all to her and call me back i hope monday! May not uncover anything but might.

I have contacted the salvation army but that was 5 days ago now with no response as yet.

G83

G83 Report 23 Oct 2015 13:05

Im gathering Clapton is Hackney? another site states that 230 high street used to be a workhouse infirmary what does this mean ?