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The above is my grand-father. I have details from his marriage certificate (1905) Devonport, Devonshire, (it was a separate Borough to Plymouth until 1914) telling me that he was born in Central City Colorado USA in 1881. I have assumed that my GGGrand father went there for the gold rush as on Herbert's marriage cert , he is noted as a miner and was called Edward . From that I found that he joined the 3rd Devon Regt in 1903.He was discharged a month later, unfit. My father was born in 1911 and he is recorded on the birth certificate. My father's sister was born in 1914, but there is no mention of his name. I find no record of him in the armed forces. That was the last record that I could find of him. My Grand-mother died in 1917. The only death in the UK that I can find that might match is a Herbert Matthew Bennett who was born in 1881 and died in Dovercourt, Harwich, Essex in 1957/9?. My father whom has been dead this last 34 years 1981 never mentioned him.
Anthony Phelyp Bennett
now living in Lancashire

Just for info:


Name:Herbert Bennett
Age in 1911:30
Estimated birth year:abt 1881
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Central City, United States of America
Civil Parish:Plymouth
County/Island:Devon
Country:England
Street address:18 Summerland Street, Plymouth
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Head Waiter

Herbert Bennett 30
Leah Bennett 24, b Plymouth

Name:Herbert Bennett of 48 Manor Rd, Dovercourt

Probate Date:10 Dec 1957

Death Date:14 Oct 1957

Death Place:Essex, England

Registry:London, England

To: Elsie Dorothy Bennett, widow £501 10s 1d


Herbert Matthew on the image

It sounds as though your grandparents split up between 1911 and 1914 (otherwise he would be mentioned on your father's sister's birth certificate).

I imagine this is the death you found:-

First name(s) HERBERT M
Last name BENNETT
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1881
Age 76
Death quarter 1
Death year 1957
District HARWICH
County Essex
Volume 4A
Page 603.

This is the burial record:-

First name(s) HERBERT MATHEW
Last name BENNETT
Birth year 1881
Death year 1957
Age 76
Burial year 1957
Burial day 2
Burial month 2
Place DOVERCOURT
Church description ALL SAINTS
Church denomination ANGLICAN
County Essex
Country England

Kath. x

Marriages Dec 1905 (>99%)

BENNETT Herbert Matthew Plymouth 5b 505
FORD Leah Blanch Plymouth 5b 505




Herbert Bennett in the 1911 England Census
Name:Herbert Bennett
Age in 1911:30
Estimated birth year:abt 1881
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Central City, United States of America
Civil Parish:Plymouth
County/Island:Devon
Country:England
Street address:18 Summerland Street, Plymouth
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Head Waiter
Registration district:Plymouth
Registration District Number:276
Sub-registration district:Plymouth South West

Household Members:

Herbert Bennett 30
Leah Bennett 24 Plymouth Devon

Married 5 years.....2 children born and died

Welcome to the boards Antony.

For ref is this your grandfather please?

Name: Herbert Bennett
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Central City, United States of America
Civil Parish: Plymouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 18 Summerland Street, Plymouth
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Head Waiter
Registration district: Plymouth
Registration District Number: 276
Sub-registration district: Plymouth South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 400
Piece: 12984
Household Members:
Name Age
Herbert Bennett 30
Leah Bennett 24

It says they have been married and had two children both of whome had died. How sad.......

Marriages Jun 1919 (>99%)

Bennett Herbert Francis Tendring 4a 1783
Francis Elsie D Bonnett Tendring 4a 1783

This is a poss.

Name: Leah Gwendoline B Bennett
Birth: abt 1909
Death: Oct 1909 - Plymouth, Devonshire

On his Army record his occupation is given as Moulder; the Herbert in the 1901 that PricklyHolly posted is an Iron Foundry worker - similar occupation.

The Army record also says that he had served a 4 year apprenticeship at Bartle & Sons, Cam or Carn Brea?; there is a date, March '98, but it isn't clear whether that is when he started or finished the apprenticeship.

Could this be the family in 1880, Colorado?

Edward Bennett

in the 1880 United States Federal Census

Name: Edward Bennett
Age: 28
Birth Year: abt 1852
Birthplace: England
Home in 1880: Nevadaville, Gilpin, Colorado
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mary Bennett
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Miner

Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Bennett 28
Mary Bennett 29
Edward Bennett 6
Mary E. Bennett 3

I didn't post a 1901 census stating he was a Iron Foundry Worker.

:-)

Sorry, PricklyHolly - it was Claire who posted the 1901.

No worries. x

Another Edw Bennett in 1885:

Name: Edw Bennet
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1885
Event Place: , Gilpin, Colorado, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Birth Year (Estimated): 1862
Death Month:
Death Year (Estimated):
Schedule Type: Population
Household ID: 173
Line Number: 6
Relationship to Head of Household: Boarder
Page: 19
GS Film number: 498506
Digital Folder Number: 004640516
Image Number: 00199


Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Henry Lugg M 37
Harriet Lugg Wife F 34
Thomas Lugg Son M 13
Wm Lugg Son M 10
Harry Lugg Son M 8
Arthur Lugg Son M 6
Geo Lugg Son M 4
Edw Bennet Boarder M 23 - Miner

Thats what I was thinking Claire.

WE need a bit more info from Anthony.

Was Herbert in the millitary or Edward?? I can't find millitary records on Ancestry that someone else posted.

If the Army record is for the correct Herbert, he was discharged as medically unfit after only 49 days service so possibly his medical condition prevented him from working in a Foundry. On the service record, there is a notation "Exeter, 25/08/13" but not indication of to what it refers.

I've sent a PM letting Anthony know how to get back/answer on his thread :-)