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Hi there,

Looking for the baptism of this lady who was married in 1890:

Betsy Worrall

Spouse

England, Cheshire Non-conformist Records, 1671-1900

birth: 1840
marriage: 27 May 1890 Frodsham, Trinity Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Frodsham, Cheshire, England

father: Samuel Worrall
spouse: Thomas Wakefield
other: James Wakefield

I have looked on the census and found this in 1871:


1871 England Census about Elizabeth Worrall
Name: Elizabeth Worrall
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel Worrall
Mother's Name: Susannah Worrall
Gender: Female
Where born: Netherton, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Frodsham Lordship
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
Town: Five Crosses
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration District: Runcorn
Sub-registration District: Frodsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Schedule Number: 46
Piece: 3693
Folio: 17
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Worrall 50
Susannah Worrall 66
Elizabeth Worrall 30
Sarah Worrall 7

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However, I can't find a baptism ... can you help? I've looked on the IGI.

Best wishes and thank you,

Peter

Just working back:


1861 England Census about Elizabeth Worrall
Name: Elizabeth Worrall
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: 1841
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Frodsham, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Kingsley
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Runcorn
Sub-registration District: Frodsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 24
Piece: 2599
Folio: 109
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Faulkner 45
Hannah Faulkner 41
Hannah Faulkner 7
Mary Faulkner 5
Sarah Faulkner 4
Martha Faulkner 1
Elizabeth Worrall 20
Sarah White 16
John Spruce 13

Joseph (Twin) Worrall, "England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000"
Name: Joseph (Twin) Worrall
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 27 Dec 1840
Event Place: , Frodsham, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Age (Formatted):
Birth Date:
Marital Status:
Father's Name:
Mother's Name: Susan Worrall
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
GS Film number: 2104548
Digital Folder Number: 004001115
Image Number: 00088



Births Dec 1840 (>99%)
Ashworth Sarah Runcorn 19 192
Hughes Mary Runcorn 19 192
Manwering George Runcorn 19 192
MARTIN Sarah Ann Runcorn 19 192
NICKSON JOHN Runcorn 19 192
Norcott Ellen Runcorn 19 192
OWEN Ellen Runcorn 19 192
Robinson Joseph Runcorn 19 192
Worrall Betty Runcorn 19 192 xxxx
Worrall Joseph Runcorn 19 192 xxxx

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Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record

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Forenames: Elizabeth (Twin)
Surname: Worrall
Sex: Female
Christening Year: 1840
Christening Date: 27 Dec 1840
Date of Birth:
Place of Birth:
Father's Forenames:
Father's Surname:
Mother's Forename: Susan
Mother's Surname: Worrall
Record Group: Part 1 - 1
Record Number: 141
Parish:
City or Town: Frodsham
County: Cheshire
Record source: Diocese of Chester parish registers of baptisms 1538-1910
Data provider: Cheshire Archives and Local Studies

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record

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Forenames: Joseph (Twin)
Surname: Worrall
Sex: Male
Christening Year: 1840
Christening Date: 27 Dec 1840
Date of Birth:
Place of Birth:
Father's Forenames:
Father's Surname:
Mother's Forename: Susan
Mother's Surname: Worrall
Record Group: Part 1 - 1
Record Number: 142
Parish:
City or Town: Frodsham
County: Cheshire
Record source: Diocese of Chester parish registers of baptisms 1538-1910
Data provider: Cheshire Archives and Local Studies

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1841 census


Person: WORRALL, Elizabeth Address: Overton, Frodsham

WORRALL, Susanah F 35 1806 Cheshire VIEW
WORRALL, Joseph M 0 (6 months) 1841 Cheshire VIEW
WORRALL, Elizabeth F 0 (6 months) 1841 Cheshire

Samuel Worrall, "England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000"
Name: Samuel Worrall
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 09 Mar 1841
Event Place: , Frodsham, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Age (Formatted):
Birth Date:
Marital Status:
Father's Name: Richard Worrall
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Name: Susan Worrall
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Father's Name: John Worrall
Spouse's Mother's Name:
GS Film number: 2104549
Digital Folder Number: 004018977

Forenames:Elizabeth
Surname:Worrall
Sex:Female
Christening Year:1840
Christening Date:27 Dec 1840
Date of Birth:Age:
Location:Frodsham
Father's Forenames:Father's Surname:
Mother's Forename:Susan
Mother's Surname:Worrall
Parish:City or Town:FrodshamCounty:CheshireRecord source:Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms Data provider:Cheshire Archives and Local Studies Transcriptions © Family Search

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Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: WORRALL, Samuel
Registration district: Runcorn
County: Cheshire
Year of registration: 1841
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 19
Page no: 164
MarriageFinder: Samuel Worrall married one of the following people:

DARLINGTON, Martha
LEECH, Sarah
SMITH, Margaret
WORRALL, Susan ?????????
ABRAHAM, Samuel
CARRINGTON, John
DODD, William

1881 census ? Looks like Betsy could be Elizabeth?

Name: Betsy Worrall
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Mother: Susan Worrall
Gender: Female
Where born: Frodsham, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Frodsham Lordship
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address: Five Crosses
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Charwoman

Registration District: Runcorn
Sub-registration District: Frodsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3518
Folio: 23
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Susan Worrall 70
Betsy Worrall 40
Sarah Worrall 15
William Worrall 3

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Births Dec 1840 (>99%)
Worrall Betty Runcorn 19 192
Worrall Joseph Runcorn 19 192

1851 census transcription details for: Top Lane, Frodsham Lordship


National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2164
Folio: 719
Page: 18
Reg. District: Runcorn
Sub District: Frodsham
Parish: Frodsham Lordship
Enum. District: 2B
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Top Lane, Frodsham Lordship
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
WORRALL, Samuel Head Married M 34 1817 Stone Quarry Labourer
Overton, Cheshire
WORRALL, Susanah Wife Married F 50 1801
Frodsham, Cheshire
WORRALL, Joseph Son M 10 1841 Scholar
Overton, Cheshire
WORRALL, Elizabeth Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar
Overton, Cheshire
WORRALL, Sarah Daughter F 4 1847
Overton, Cheshire

1851 England Census about Elizabeth Worrall
Name: Elizabeth Worrall
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel Worrall
Mother's Name: Susanah Worrall
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Overton, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Frodsham Lordship
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Runcorn
Sub-registration District: Budworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 70
Piece: 2164
Folio: 719
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Worrall 34
Susanah Worrall 50
Joseph Worrall 10
Elizabeth Worrall 10
Sarah Worrall 4

Name: Sarah Worrall
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1847
Registration District: Runcorn
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 19
Page: 224

Thank you for this - so it seems as though Betsey/Betty/Elizabeth was the illegitimate daughter of Susan Worrall, and along with a twin, Joseph, she was baptised in 1840.

Her parents, Susan Worrall and Samuel Worrall were married a few months later.

I wonder if Susan and Samuel were cousins? I'll have a look - and thank you for this.

PLEASE DON'T LOOK INTO Samuel's parents etc. They were Richard and Hannah Whalley Worrall ...I carried out a post into them recently. Betsy however, then married a distant uncle (Thomas Wakefield), from another line ... wow, complex!

Thank you,

Peter

Possible burial for Susannah?

Name: Susan Worrall
Gender: Female
Death Age: 80
Burial Date: 22 Aug 1882
Burial Place: , Frodsham, Cheshire, England
Burial Age: 80y
FHL Film Number: 2104550

It seems as though Susan Worrall was baptised in 1805 to John Worrall and Elizabeth Cooper (married in Frodsham in 1799).

Could someone please look to see if they can find John's baptism. I have a possibility or two but would like a second opinion.

Thank you,

Peter

Possible baptism?

Name: Susan Worrall
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 14 Jul 1805
Baptism Place: Frodsham, Cheshire, England
Father: John Worrall
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 1655670

have you found John Worrall on any census to give an idea of his birth year?

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41 England Census about John Worrall
Name: John Worrall
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1776
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Frodsham
Hundred: Eddisbury (Second Division)
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration District: Runcorn
Sub-registration District: Frodsham
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 97
Book: 8
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
John Worrall 65
Betty Worrall 60
Joseh Worrall 20
Joseph Worrall 5
Ellen Worrall 2

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 97; Book: 8; Civil Parish: Frodsham; County: Cheshire; Enumeration District: 6; Page: 3; Line: 10; GSU roll: 241237.

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Forenames: John
Surname: Worrall
Sex: Male
Christening Year: 1777
Christening Date: 20 Jun 1777
Date of Birth:
Place of Birth:
Father's Forenames: Samuel
Father's Surname: Worrall
Mother's Forename: Rachel
Mother's Surname:
Record Group: Part 1 - 43
Record Number: 410
Parish: St. Mary
City or Town: Birkenhead
County: Cheshire
Record source: Diocese of Chester parish registers of baptisms 1538-1910
Data provider: Cheshire Archives and Local Studies