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The word Woman
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Florence61 | Report | 14 Jul 2021 13:53 |
Oh my, I have been listening to Jeremy Vine on R2 and the discussion was all about the word "woman" and to trans people, its shall we say almost offensive! |
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Island | Report | 14 Jul 2021 14:03 |
So 'man' is ok then? :-S |
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Sharron | Report | 14 Jul 2021 14:11 |
Interesting point made in that, once a 'person' has given birth, they are called a mother. There is no similar name for a person with a womb who has not given birth. |
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Island | Report | 14 Jul 2021 14:18 |
Given that an awful lot of people still won't use the title 'Ms' when asked by women who prefer their marital status not to be disclosed, I say those who want to get rid of 'woman' haven't got a cat in hells chance, so don't waste energy on being irritated. |
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Island | Report | 14 Jul 2021 14:22 |
Sharron, a woman doesn't have to give birth to be a mother. |
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Maddie | Report | 14 Jul 2021 14:43 |
the world has gone crackers, everyone is offended by something,well tough don't listen don't look |
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Florence61 | Report | 14 Jul 2021 14:51 |
Well the word "man" didnt come into the conversation really! Well you can say birth mother as in the woman that gave birth to you to be totally correct but if you say adopt a child then you are their mother. A mother is a female who has raised a child/children by whatever means. A man is referred to as a Father. Well thats how we were educated. I suppose the word parent will now be used in place? |
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Sharron | Report | 14 Jul 2021 14:55 |
OK. So what do you call a person with a womb who has not given birth and neither has that person raised or cared for children? |
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Florence61 | Report | 14 Jul 2021 14:58 |
A woman sharon |
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Florence61 | Report | 14 Jul 2021 15:00 |
Nulliparous is the def of a woman that has never given birth |
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nameslessone | Report | 14 Jul 2021 15:02 |
Personally I would call you a woman/ female. But it seems, nowadays, they don’t exit. |
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Florence61 | Report | 14 Jul 2021 15:05 |
i agree with you nameslessone |
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Sharron | Report | 14 Jul 2021 15:18 |
But a female human who has given birth or raised young is also a woman. Nurturing or producing the next generation gives them another name. Does it give them higher value? |
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Florence61 | Report | 14 Jul 2021 15:28 |
I have never thought that Sharron but there will probably be a name recently invented i expect. A woman is a female adult regardless of whether she has given birth.No woman is superior to another regardless of whether they have given birth in our culture maybe. |
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maggiewinchester | Report | 14 Jul 2021 15:32 |
I suppose it just makes it more descriptive to say 'This is the mother of this child', rather than 'This is the woman of this child'. |
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Andysmum | Report | 14 Jul 2021 15:33 |
A different angle on this matter of terminology. |
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ZZzzz | Report | 14 Jul 2021 15:35 |
My 2 sisters chose not to have children, one of my female cousins is married to another woman and both have children from previous relationships, another cousin is going through the trans gender process from woman to man and all at the moment are women/female. I think legally they can't change their birth certificate but it can be added to it that they have changed gender. |
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Island | Report | 14 Jul 2021 15:50 |
Sharron, there used to be a word for women who hadn't given birth - womb or no womb, who knew?. That word was 'barren'. |
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ZZzzz | Report | 14 Jul 2021 16:15 |
Island. I think it was grounds for divorce way back in the day but women couldn't divorce then. |
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nameslessone | Report | 14 Jul 2021 16:37 |
As a woman/female/ mother etc I was in John Lewis one day quite a lot of years ago. I knew in the narrow space there was a man and a female staff member. |