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That is an adjective, as is barren.


Or I could be known as 'Going to give names a thick ear Sharron'!

I did say earlier that the term Nulliparous refers to a woman that has never given birth!

Florence in the hebrides

or Brother Sharron?

If a woman who has never given birth was bovine, she would be a heifer. Even cattle get a name!

Or Abbess Sharron. Maybe you'd prefer Mother Superior, that is what top nun was at my school.

I expect you'll just go with Superior Sharron. ;-)

Of course women who haven't given birth have a value!
Take the holy cloth then you can work up to Mother Sharron if you're that bothered.

How about Baroness? Then you could be Lady Sharron….

No I am not on a wind up. I think this is what debate might be about.

This goes back to my original point that a woman with a child, however acquired, is a mother but there is no name for a woman who has none.

No title, no value?

Because Sharron, a female who has given birth is a mother.
Are you on a wind up here?

Zzzzz, I didn't see your 16.50 post, I was replying to namelessone.
Not an easy time for someone who is about to go through gender re-assignment I imagine.

Interesting. There doesn’t seem to an equivalent for men who don’t have children. But I suppose you have to believe them :-S

If there is no reason to label women who have not given birth, then why is there a reason to label women who have?

So are you now an old man?

That is what my cousin is going through now, she has to have a mans name, her ample bust has to be bound to look like a chest and goodness knows what else, however she is treated like she saw it in a shop and wanted to buy it.
It isn't an easy proses to go through and some "friends" have disowned her because of it.

As a woman/female/ mother etc I was in John Lewis one day quite a lot of years ago. I knew in the narrow space there was a man and a female staff member.
I heard a mans voice and then another mans voice, I whipped round as I hadn't been aware anyone else had crowded into the space. The staff member was going through the 'must live as a woman period'.

Island. I think it was grounds for divorce way back in the day but women couldn't divorce then.

Sharron, there used to be a word for women who hadn't given birth - womb or no womb, who knew?. That word was 'barren'.
There is no need to label women who haven't given birth imo.

My 2 sisters chose not to have children, one of my female cousins is married to another woman and both have children from previous relationships, another cousin is going through the trans gender process from woman to man and all at the moment are women/female. I think legally they can't change their birth certificate but it can be added to it that they have changed gender.

A different angle on this matter of terminology.

A couple of weeks ago OH and I had a long-overdue holiday on a narrow boat. It was owned and run by a couple of young-ish men and before we went, wondered whether they might be gay. Not that it bothered us at all and they were delightful and great fun.

The question of their sexuality was settled when one of them, telling stories about previous customers, referred to himself as a "middle-aged poof". This is not a word I have ever used, although I did know what it meant!

Later in the week he said that one of the other narrow boat owners regularly called him "ginger poof". I asked whether he minded and his reply was that they weren't being nasty, that was what they called gay men and it didn't bother him at all.

I suppose it just makes it more descriptive to say 'This is the mother of this child', rather than 'This is the woman of this child'.

Oh, and in my view, anyone with a penis, is either a 'he' or a 'they', they aren't a 'she'.
If they want to go 'full woman', they need to get it chopped off!

Edit: There is one proviso, people who were born intersex, and had their gender decided, just after birth, by a surgeon.