Genealogy Chat

I guess fame is a personal thing but the artistic talented quirky family of Tudsbury from Edwinstowe comprised of 3 brothers and a sister -they were inventors andd artists-being commissioned by the king-excellent word carvers -their work can be seen in big estate houses-as good as Grinling gibbons I reckon..........I was told there was a family link and i have a few paintings and a carved cabinet - a lot of their work can be seen in the local church of Edwinstowe in Notts.........half an hour ago I discovered for the first time the name in one of my relations but its still a puzzle......what do you people reckon???

Name: Richard Newton Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relation: Head Household: View other family members Family and neighbors: View neighbors Gender: Male Where Born: Ollerton, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Mansfield County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: 6 Curriers Court Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Coachman Source information: RG11/3317 Registration district: Mansfield Sub registration district: Mansfield ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 150 Page: 16 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 1341791 thats him in 1881.........his mother ann newton was born in edwinstowe,dont know her maiden name but she married a joseph newton,around 1838 ish

Richard TUDSBURY Newton Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where Born: Ollerton, Nottinghamshire, England C ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 64 Page: 36 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 6097766 Here he has moved from Mansfield,remarried a rebecca and got a grocers shop in Pleasleyhill- his first wife elizabeth must have died

Rebecca Newton abt 1853 Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Ingham Lincolnshire Richard Newton abt 1840 Ollerton, Nottinghamshire, England Head Ingham Lincolnshire William Newton abt 1871 Mansfield Woodhouse, Nottinghamshire, England Son Ingham Lincolnshire here they are again-william has moved back in with them-again moved Ingham Cliff all Saints and is an Inn keeper- not bothering with the tudsbury name this time.

He used the name Richard Tudsbury Newton in both his marriages in 1863 and 1884.........do you think it is from his mother that this name originates?....seeing as she was born in the village that the Tudsburys became famous -edwinstowe?

Don't get too excited yet Alter. I lived in Edwinstowe when I was 18 months old as we lived with my Aunt for 6 months. I hope for your sake you are not related to me but maybe you are descended from Robin Hood?

There is only Richard Tudsbury born 1793 in Mansfield on this site.

If this is him in 1851 his mother is called Gun? Charles Newton abt 1851 Ollerton, Nottinghamshire, England Son Ollerton Nottinghamshire Gun Newton abt 1815 Edwinstowe, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Ollerton Nottinghamshire John Newton abt 1843 Ollerton, Nottinghamshire, England Son Ollerton Nottinghamshire Joseph Newton abt 1815 London, England Head Ollerton Nottinghamshire Joseph Newton abt 1848 Ollerton, Nottinghamshire, England Son Ollerton Nottinghamshire Margatha Newton abt 1849 Ollerton, Nottinghamshire, England Son Ollerton Nottinghamshire Mary Newton abt 1846 Ollerton, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Ollerton Nottinghamshire Richard Newton abt 1840 Ollerton, Nottinghamshire, England Son Ollerton Nottinghamshire Source information: HO107/2135 Registration district: Southwell Sub-registration district: Kneesal ED, institution, or vessel: 6b Folio: 143 Page: 22 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 78 GSU Number: 87765 Georgina.

This is the household in 1841 fore reference: Ann Newton abt 1816 Nottinghamshire, England Edwinstone Nottinghamshire View Record Elizabeth Newton abt 1835 Nottinghamshire, England Edwinstone Nottinghamshire View Record Joseph Newton abt 1816 Edwinstone Nottinghamshire View Record Richard Newton abt 1840 Nottinghamshire, England Edwinstone Nottinghamshire View Record William Newton abt 1837 Nottinghamshire, England Edwinstone Nottinghamshire

Ann Tudsbury abt 1815 Edwinstone Nottinghamshire Richard Tudsbury abt 1813 Nottinghamshire, England Edwinstone Nottinghamshire View Record Richd Tudsbury abt 1840 Nottinghamshire, England Edwinstone Nottinghamshire View Record Ellen Whitworth abt 1828 Edwinstone Nottinghams More rellies?

There are 2 births for Richard Newton's in Nottingham Births Jun 1840 Newton Richard Mansfield 15 516 Births Dec 1841 Newton Richard Gainsbro' 14 316 But this entry for a Richard Tudsbury is registered in Southwell which covers Edwinstowe. Births Mar 1840 Tudsbury Richard John Southwell 15 6_3 Georgina.

Georgina that birth would correspond with the Tudsbury family I found in the 1841.

Pippa this must be the Richard Tudsbury whose birth I found in 1881.. Richard TUDSBURY Head U Male 41 Edwinstowe, Nottingham, England Wood Carver William TUDSBURY Brother U Male 35 Edwinstowe, Nottingham, England Wood Carver Annie TUDSBURY Sister U Female 29 Casothorn, York, England Housekeeper Fredrick TUDSBURY Brother U Male 26 Edwinstowe, Nottingham, England Pyrotechnist Fuse & Manuf Source Information: Dwelling Church St Census Place Edwinstowe, Nottingham, England Family History Library Film 1341805 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3371 / 52 Page Number 1 Georgina.

AAAhh,now that last one is the talented family -I was on about-the wood carver....2 of the brothers carved wood -they had a brother called fred ,and a sister ,their father was a painter/watercolourist-was obsessed with Sherwood Forest.The description of the sister as a housekeeper is unfair-apparently she lived to a ripe old age and could speak many languages.Fred was a sort of Heath Robinson inventor.The wood carvers won commisions from the King and exhibited in Paris. Ive seen photographs of manor hose staircases that they did,and cabinets with carved rabbits and pheasants adorning some large estate house-the Cabinet was a price guide of 60,000 pounds in the auction catalogue.A truly talented ,if not nutty family-they were all happy to live together and were always busy. One earlier piece has been mistranscribed-the Gun Newton is Ann Newton-she is my gt,gt,gt grandmother.

what i need to find is how my Richard Newton,who later named himself Richard Tudsbury Newton,born 1840 is related to this family- I suspect it is through his mother Ann,who was the only member of the family born in the village....the similar names and years of birth can get confusing......... Richard Tudsbury born Edwinstowe -1840 -later woodcarver-lived Edwinstowe. Richard Newton-later Richard Tudsbury Newton-born Ollerton 1840- my gt gt grandmothers brother.-lived Ollerton>>Mansfield>>Pleasleyhill>>>Gainsboro.Innkeeper and Grocer. The link is Edwinstowe,as this is Ann Newtons birthplace,and his father joseph was born in Lincoln,so that rules him out.

In 1861 he is a groom in Weston,aged 21 working for a family called Spence who have a fair few servants. 2 years later he marries an Elizabeth-well it turns out that he uses the Tudsbury name for the first time.........at marriage ! Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1863 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newton Richard Tudsbury Mansfield 7b 97 Witham Eliza Mansfield 7b 97 and later settles in Mansfield Woodhouse by 1871 as a coachman with 3 children,Annie(named afterhis mum) thomas and william......interesting no joseph......which may suggest again that joseph newton wasnt his birthfather.This also makes sense when you consider that Joseph newton down as his father in previous censi had died young-its very possible that she chose to tell him after he died.Richards mother was a widow before the marriage in 1863.

If you think Richard is the first born who are Elizabeth and William then in the 1841 census?

ive realise that since writing that !!!.....was late lol ! but what is bizarre is that he is the only one that uses the name- not knowing his mothers maiden name is the problem- Im convinced she is the link somehow. William John and Joseph dont use it -- was it the result of knowing something after joseph died ?(his father in the census)

WALTER TUDSBURY died in 1936,at the age of 86 and was the son of a cabinet maker and had 2 brothers Richard and Fred,and one sister annie.Apparently the Church register (st marys) reveals records of the ancestors of this family dating back to 1600,and they lived their whole lives in the Village.I have a watercolour that he did of Sherwood Forest. RICHARD ,who died in 1908 was famous for his woodcarvings and won awards at the Paris Exhibition in 1870.Carvings he did for Edward V11 brought him a personal letter of appreciation from the king. FRED was also a talented wood carver and when he died in 1933,left many reminders of his skill,including the eagle lectern in St marys Church,Edwinstowe.many of the carved pew ends in Perlthorpe Church are his work.His finest work was perhaps the grand staircase in Rufford Abbey.fred was a musician and made his own violin.He was also a skilled electrician and built machines which were accepted by manufacturing firms. WALTER gave art exhibitions and apparently did very life-like models of animals in snow !! Apparently the sister ANNIE was still reciting Shakespeare perfectly just before she died at the age of 90 in 1941.!! When they were all young they built a model steam engine,correct in every detail,which they ran between Edwinstowe and Clipstone Arches. Paraphrased from the Mansfield Reporter.

ANN TUDSBURY christened 29th August 1814 Edwinstowe- that has to be The woman Im looking for and the link- Her mother and father are called richard and elizabeth- her first child was elizabeth and second born son was richard aswell.