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Mining Disasters in Great Britain

I've only included the Staffordshire entries between 1862-1871

OLD BRADLEY. Bilston, Staffordshire. 30th. May, 1862.
BROOKHOUSE. Hanley, Staffordshire. 2nd. March, 1864.
WITHYMORE. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire. 16th November, 1864.
CLOUGH HALL. Newcastle, Staffordshire. 1st. March, 1865.
HOMER HILL. Cradley, Staffordshire. 1st. November, 1866.
TALKE O' TH' HILL. Talke, Staffordshire. 13th. December 1866.
CLATTERSHALL. Stourbridge, Staffordshire. 2nd. March, 1867.
CLATTERSHALL. Brierley Hill, Staffordshire. 11th. March, 1868.
CANNOCK CHASE Cannock, Staffordshire. 15th. May, 1868.
LEYCETT. Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire. 3rd. January, 1871.


Newspaper websites for circumstances of mining accidents or coroners inquests relating to miners (John Burkes) death??

I did also find this for Catherine ? As theres no mothers Maiden name I'd have to get a digital copy of the birth certificate to confirm.

Catharine
Last Name Burke
Birth Year 1867
Gender Female
Mother's Maiden Name
Year 1867
Country England
County Staffordshire
Event Quarter 4
District Stoke on Trent
District Number
Volume 6B
Page 138
Entry Number
Line Number 353
DOR
Category Births, Marriages & Deaths
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Collections from Great Britain, England

GRO

BURKE, CATHERINE MMN MCNEIL
GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 138

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John Burkes death was registered 8th June 1869 Tipton, killed by a fall of coal in a coal pit.

The GRO site is FREE and includes MMN if the parents were married.

Can I please ask what is the GRO and what is MMN ?

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp#Results

General Register Office
Official information on births, adoptions, marriages,
civil partnerships and deaths in England and Wales

MMN= Mothers Maiden Name

General Records Office and Mothers maiden name.

You can register at the GRO for free to see the mmn’s and it is where you can buy English & Welsh birth, marriage and death certificates from 1837.

... THREE MEN CRUSHED TO DEATH IN A MINE.
A shocking and fatal accident took place on a portion of the Round's Hill Colliery, Princes End, Tipton, on Tuesday afternoon. Messrs. Fowler and Shale, brickmasters, have a -large brickyard in the neighbourhood and have leased a pit, known as “Fowler’s Pit,” from the Earl of Dudley, in order to raise coal to make the articles of their trade, and it is at this pit that the occurrence has taken place. Messrs. Fowler and Shale have given the pit into the charge of two [ clarteimasters mm d Dunkl-sy I rd ], and [ tnese ] the coal is raised to the surface. At one clock the men employed in the pit, the number about twenty, left off work and retired to the bottom of the shaft, as usual, to have their dinners. This was over, three men. named William [?], William Marsden, and John Burke, who were bandsmen, proceeded their work few minutes previous the others. The moment they entered the still to load the coal which had been thrown down, a great mass of coal fell upon them and completely smothered them. An alarm was at once given the men who [?] at the bottom of the shaft, and assistance was soon rendered. The [ aud three b.n lsfu lsful imu ] about twenty number, went down, and proceeded at once to remove the coal, give relief, if possible, to the buried men. After hour and a half had elapsed, the body of Burke was recovered and sent to the top. It was frightfully mangled. Very little progress was then made, and was after five o’clock when the mutilated bodies of the other men were found.


Published: Saturday 12 June 1869
Newspaper: Staffordshire Sentinel
County: Staffordshire, England

Oh wow thank you so much for that information, that's so sad but very interesting to read.
I'll be sure to pass this on to his direct descendants who were miners too until the pits closed.

I've searched all night for Mary Ann & Catherine to no avail.

Thanks everyone for your expert help and the links provided.

Oh wow thank you so much for that information, that's so sad but very interesting to read.
I'll be sure to pass this on to his direct descendants who were miners too until the pits closed.

I've searched all night for Mary Ann & Catherine to no avail.

Thanks everyone for your expert help and the links provided.

Just gone back on my post from 2021

Some of you posted on there and it seems we got lots more info. The post is
Marriages around 1830's

I've been a bit sporadic with this side of the family tree and life has got in the way quite a bit, but it's this particular family that I really want to crack so going to try get my head back in the game.... she says :-D

Please add a link to your original post. (C&P the URL) No doubt a lot of the work done then has been duplicated, which is why the site says ‘one post per topic’

This is that thread - but it's about the Marriott side of the family:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1396197

This one is about the Burkes - and includes Mary Ann's birth record:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1395955

Thanks AG…..

Thank you ,sorry for not continuing on the original post, we live and learn and as it was 3 years ago.
I appreciate all your help.

Hope you find what you’re seeking

Civil Registration of Births in Ireland began in 1864 before this you are looking at Church Records for a Baptism, you need to know the County. Parish and Townland and Religion before you can begin a search. Many records of early births do not show parents names only the Parish and sponsors names, If you are lucky and your ancestor comes from larger Cities such as Dublin there may be more information on the actual Baptismal Cert.

Thank you, that's going to be a problem for me as I have absolutely no idea which area of Ireland, and with such a common name it's difficult to search. Growing up in my mums side of the family there was always talk by my Grandad of the Irish connection, but we never knew where abouts that was. To be honest I didn't think it would be so far back. Out of all my ancestors this side has always been a mystery and difficult to find.
The coal mine information has been fascinating though, somehow seems to make it more real when you can see actual facts written about them.

As John is proving difficult to find, I will throw out some straw clutching suggestions......

The National Archives does not hold personnel records for miners. Records containing information about individual miners and other mining industry staff, if they survive, are more likely to be found in local record offices.

https://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/Heritage-and-archives/Local-and-community-history/Businesses/Coal-mining.aspx

The mine was leased from the Earl of Dudley have you considered contacting their estate

From what I have been reading miners may have had Union membership, if they still exist, perhaps John's membership would offer you a place of birth etc etc

Mining inspectorate accident investigation report- does one exist and would it have included any of John's personal information?

Coroners report, if there was an inquest
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