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Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)

PALMER Annie Miriam S Edmonton 3a 615
Wells Frederick George B Edmonton 3a 615

Arthur



you're very welcome!

1901 Census


Name: Annie M S Wells
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Fleah G B Wells
Birth Place: Paddington, London, England
Civil Parish: Herne Bay
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Herne Bay
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Blean
Sub-registration district: Herne

Fleah G B Wells 47 <<<<<<<<< Frederick
Annie M S Wells 32
Clara M Wells 22
Winifred M Wells 19
Charles Wells 15
Reginald G Wells 14
Ernest L Wells 10
Stanley Wells 8
Frederick G Wells 8 Months

Address:- 9 Cavendish Place (???)


and right next door at No. 8 ...........................


Name: Charles J Palmer
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Anne Palmer
Birth Place: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Herne Bay
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Herne Bay
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Blean
Sub-registration district: Herne
ED, institution, or vessel: 12

Charles J Palmer 63 Living on own means
Anne Palmer 55 Blind
Florence S Stewart 5 b.ca 1896, Paddington, Granddaughter
William G Hopkins 24 Boarder
Fanny Pay 40 Servant


Anne is only noted as Blind on this census.

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Deaths Jun 1911 (>99%)
Palmer Ann 66 Blean 2a 537


Blean is the registration district that includes Herne Bay

a Public Family Tree has Frederick George Briton Wells going to Canada, arriving in Quebec on June 21 1914.


I cannot see these records (Canadian Passenger Lists), so I do not know if Annie was with him or not.


According to this same tree, he died in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan on 3 Nov 1923

AHAH!


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Fred G B Wells

Name: Fred G B Wells
Gender: Male
Age: 60
Birth Date: abt 1854
Departure Date: 11 Jun 1914
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Montreal, Canada
Ship Name: Ascania
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Ascania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard Line



He says he was a farmer, and seemed to be travelling alone.

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Marriages Dec 1924 (>99%)

Buckingham Ernest G Wells Cardiff 11a 804
Wells Annie M S Buckingham Cardiff 11a 804

Sylvia

Its addictive isn't it - especially if you find an interesting fact like Frederick emigrating to Canada. Sadly we will not know his reason - unless a descendant knows and reads our posts. Also interesting he should claim to be a farmer when the census does not show any connection.

There must have been contact with Annie Miriam as she waited until he died before remarrying.

Thank you once again for filling in some gaps.

I noted the reference on the 1911 Census to the fact that Ann Palmer was blind and an imbecile. She was living with her daughter? Her husband was living next door, so could it be that on the day of the Census she happened to be visiting her daughter - presume this would have been shown with her marked as visitor

Thanks once again for shedding more light.


I have joined the Borders Family History Society and hope to flesh out my mother's maternal grandfather - my great grandfather. He was a teacher and highly respected - I know this from a Bishop's review of poetry he wrote.

Sylvia

Found F G B Well's probate.

He left £750 Administration (with will) to Jack Glover attorney solicitor for Charles Wells. Charles was from his first marriage.

perhaps the marriage to Ernest Buckingham was not "your" Annie .................


Deaths Jun 1939 (>99%)
Wells Annie M S 70 Blean 2a 1363

Can you suggest how you can trace the cemetery where ancestors are buried.

Is it a matter of finding cemeteries in the area and hoping they have a register on line.

This looks like your man Arthur.

London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921 about Frederick George Briton Wells
Name: Frederick George Briton Wells
Event Date: 20 Sep 1898
Parish: Christ Church Herne Bay
County: Kent
Spouse's Name: Annie Miriam Sophia Palmer
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse's Parish: St Augustine Highgate
Event Type: Allegation
Reference Number: MS10091/275

Hello everyone......I thought I would just pop in to see how everyone is. :-D

I've been really busy researching WW1 soldiers but come onto GR for a quick mosey round and to send my messages out every day.


OH and I are keeping well......considering all things! We did feel our age when our granddaughter left school a few weeks ago. Where does time go??


Arthur, have you tried the following site? Also, if you google for cemeteries in the area you are researching, you should get quite a bit of information about what is available online or, at least how to find out about things work. Good luck.


https://www.deceasedonline.com/


Popping back to WW1 now.......be good and take care. Love, Cx <3

Susan

Many thanks.

I am never sure when to stop when investigating other than my direct line e.g. brothers and sisters of great grandparents. Tree gets very complicated.

Annie Miriam Sophia seems like a very nice person. She took on her husband's children by first wife Sarah Coe. and she looked after her mother who went blind and is noted as an imbecile on the 2011 Census. I assume this could mean Alzheimer's and must have been difficult with so many small children.
Her husband does not score so highly leaving her in 1914 and going to Canada. Maybe he went to make money to support the family - I will probably never know.

Weather today is too hot - could touch 33C. Ideal for watching cricket but I should be doing the garden.

Arthur

There is a tree on Ancestry says

Frederick bn 1854 Lambeth Surrey.
Married Sarah Charlotte Coe
Died 1923 Canada 3rd Nov. aged 69
Had eleven Children the last being Phyllis bn 1906
Parents Benjamin Weston Wells / Rosanne Wickstead.

This tree has no mention of his second wife Annie.

First Marriage details.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Frederick George Briton Wells
Name: Frederick George Briton Wells
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Age: 23
Spouse Name: Sarah Charlotte Coe
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 6 Nov 1877
Parish: Kennington St John the Divine
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Benjamin Weston Wells
Spouse Father: James Coe
Register Type: Parish Register

hello all

Cynthia I know just what you mean my granddaughter started work three weeks a go part time at the moment while training at mc donalds in Peterborough until they open in bourne in august then it will be full time exept for day releace for study

artheur I have been watching the highlits on c5 of the cricket but they are not very good at it

Sylvia and susan you are so good at finding those ancesters

this heat knocks me for six am not able do much but it gives me time to be on here most of the da :-(

please excuse the spelling it is worse than usuall

keep cool
sally w <3

Hi Sue, and everyone

back home again after our weekend trip to the Island!!



We had a great time ...................... no WiFi access in the Cottage, so no internet access

Our friend had lost a lot of weight in the late winter / early spring, when she was very depressed ............... she went down to about 82/83 lbs. She's now back up to about 92 lbs ............... but that is about 15 lbs too light for her.


We came back with 3 more paintings, 1 beautiful large wooden bowl carved out of Bigleaf Maple, and a couple of books ........ all gifts from our friend

Now we have to find room for them all.



The weather cooled off while we were away .............. it was so much more pleasant for sleeping!

The hottest day we had here was just under 30C in the shade in the back garden. That was HOT!

We even had a little rain .................. the gardens loved that %3A-%29

we could really do with a downpour like some of you have had %3A-%29



Arthur .......................

I usually go to grandparents' siblings. If I can easily find a marriage, then I add the spouse and children. If the spouse's parents are also easily found, then I will add those

But I don't usually trace up more than the spouse's parentage or siblings (that is, unless one of the siblings also marries into my line)


As you say, it can get very complicated and makes for a very big tree!




take care everyone





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Sally ............. it is so much nicer here now that it has cooled down :-)

hello all

hopeing you are all well

I have found it a bit overwhelming all though very good coveridge of the ww1 and shed a few tears as my pic shows my uncle by marrage was killed in it but two uncles came home my dad was not quite old enough


the planes have been busy over us today it seems as if there is one up there all the time and if you have seen the news there was a bomb scare

he wheather has cooled at last and I nave been busy on my tree with a lot of help from Derek on his Derbyshire thread

sally w <3

Hi Sue, and everyone



well that cool spell that I mentioned on my last post only lasted 2 more days, then it was back to the heat.


We have had temperatures in the high 20s every day (except for those 3) since the end of June!



It was just a shade cooler today, and thus a little more pleasant!


I had to go for physio, and it was really quite pleasant walking on the shady side of the street, then looking north down side streets to see the water and the mountains :-)

Physio is down on what we call "4th Avenue" which was the heart of hippiedom back in the 60s ................... many of those who live, or frequent, down there are still free spirited!


I saw one old lady (older than me!) pushing her wheelie, and dash out to cross the main road seconds before the lights changed!

Fortunately, she made it across ......................... but only because the traffic did not begin to move :-)



My physio only came home Monday evening ................... from 2 weeks in England.

He loved it, said they had a great time ....................... but was horrified at the cost of everything! Most especially, a small snack for 4 of them





take care everyone




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