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Advice please- Birth Certificate

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Jinet

Jinet Report 17 Apr 2009 17:22

I have a copy of my late grandfathers birth certificate which gives his mothers name Isabella Langlands but not her mothers maiden name. My grandfather was illegitimate and so given away not adopted to another family who simply refused to reveal anything. I thought I had made a connection using the census's and bought lots of certs. using Isabella Langlands residing Easington, Durham to potential father Robinson Taylor Langlands and mother Barbara Straughan. However a member on genes has informed me this is incorrect. My question is how can I trace his mother if I do not have her mothers maiden name.

Johnathon

Johnathon Report 17 Apr 2009 17:32

If i've read this right then only Isabella is named on the cert? If she is then Langlands is her maiden name.

Jinet

Jinet Report 17 Apr 2009 17:36

In the box marked, name, surname and maiden surname of mother all that is given is Isabella Langlands - domestic servant it also states that the informant to the birth was her landlord

K

K Report 17 Apr 2009 17:41

I don't think there is a certain way of verfiying this except by doing as you are doing, working through the options, checking the census and eliminating those that don't fit.

Have you found her in the census working as a servant by any chance at the time her son was born?

Johnathon

Johnathon Report 17 Apr 2009 17:42

So that means she was unmarried & Langlands (at that time) was her surname & maiden name.

If you post the details we'll se what we can find

Jinet

Jinet Report 17 Apr 2009 17:49

William Langlands was born 18 Sept 1920 1 Deaside Lane, Easington.
I have found Isabella Langlands in the 1901 England Census as born in 1898 Easington, Durham to parents Robinson Taylor Langlands and Barbara.
Although this is the only census she appears in I have search all other census's back to 1841 which the entire family appear, the first born son using the same name.
Sorry not comp literate as to post info
I truly appreciate any help or advice on this

K

K Report 17 Apr 2009 17:49

I preume this is the Isabella you originally investigated so her occupation will not appear in any census - Sorry crossed with you


1901
Name: Isabella Langlands
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robinson T
Mother's Name: Barbara
Gender: Female
Where born: New Seaham, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Seaham
Ecclesiastical parish: Seaham Christchurch
Town: New Seaham
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Easington
Sub registration district: Dawdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 145
Household Members: Name Age
Robinson T Langlands 42
Barbara Langlands 34
Robinson T Langlands 14
Elizabeth A Langlands 12
Robert Langlands 10
John Jos Langlands 8
Jane Langlands 5
Isabella Langlands 3
Hilda Langlands 4 Mo

Jinet

Jinet Report 17 Apr 2009 17:52

I have tried to find without success any information with regards to a isabella langlands after 1920 or at the address given

K

K Report 17 Apr 2009 17:56

The 1911 Isabella was from Northumberland

LANGLANDS, ROBERT HEAD MARRIED M 46 COAL MINER SHIFTER BELOW GROUND WILLINGTON QUAY NORTHLD
LANGLANDS, ANN MARRIED 21 F 46 WALKER NORTHLD
LANGLANDS, ISABELLA DAUGHTER F 18 ROSE HILL NORTHLD
LANGLANDS, JOSEPH SON M 15 COLLIERY DRIVER BELOW GROUND WILLINGTON NORTHLD
LANGLANDS, GEORGE SON M 12 SCHOOL WILLINGTON NORTHLD
LANGLANDS, ANN DAUGTER F 10 SCHOOL WILLINGTON NORTHLD
LANGLANDS, JANE DAUGHTER F 7 WILLINGTON NORTHLD

Jinet

Jinet Report 17 Apr 2009 17:58

This is the family I matched with my Isabella, the mothers name is given as Barbara, I looked up the marriage for R.T langlands and Barbara and got a match Dec 1884 Easington. However the genes member has informed me that this barbara Straughan is incorrect. I dont really know how to resolve this at all

Johnathon

Johnathon Report 17 Apr 2009 17:58

She'd be very young but this could be her birth

Births Jun 1906
Langlands Isabella Easington 10a 511

Johnathon

Johnathon Report 17 Apr 2009 18:04

This could be Isabella's (born 1906) marriage

Marriages Sep 1930
Langlands Isabella Pickering Sedgefield 10a 431
Pickering Stanley Langlands Sedgefield 10a 431

Easington boarders Sedgefield

K

K Report 17 Apr 2009 18:07

So the Genes member questions the marriage you found to Barbara Straughan not the family in 1901?

Jinet

Jinet Report 17 Apr 2009 18:07

I agree Johnathon, young but then again it could explain why she give him away.

I will have a look at this and see where it leads too. thank you so much for your help it is greatly appreciated.

Jinet

Jinet Report 17 Apr 2009 18:12

sorry my links are slow, Isabella Scott and Isabella Wears are definately no's as had contact with their tree members.

K

K Report 17 Apr 2009 18:14

I wonder if this was her from 1911

LANGLANDS, WILLIAM HEAD MARRIED 8 M 28 COAL MINER DEPUTY OVERMAN RAINTON CO DURHAM
LANGLANDS, ELIZA WIFE MARRIED F 25 WASHINGTON U S AMERICA
LANGLANDS, ELIZA DAUGHTER F 8 SEDGEFIELD CO DURHAM
LANGLANDS, ISABEL DAUGHTER F 5 EASINGTON CO DURHAM
LANGLANDS, ELIZABETH DAUGHTER F 3 EASINGTON CO DURHAM
LANGLANDS, ANTHONY SON M 1 SEDGEFIELD CO DURHAM
Address 15 DUNSTAN ST TRIMDON COLLY County Durham
District Sedgefield Subdistrict Sedgefield
Enumeration District 11 Parish Trimdon

Jinet

Jinet Report 17 Apr 2009 18:17

sorry K, that is correct, I have the death cert for Barbara which does not give her maiden name but does give her husband's name as R.T. Langlands, they both passed away 2 yrs apart and both in the same place.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 17 Apr 2009 18:54

There's this one:

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District /
INSTITUTION LANGLAND ISABELLA M 1898 13 Bolton Lancashire


Rose

Johnathon

Johnathon Report 17 Apr 2009 18:57

Just re-reading this & see you've put the address he was born.

I've never heard of Deaside Lane but know there's a Seaside Lane at Easington.

I'm guessing he was born at the hospital/infirmary, you can read about it on here

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/

The council offices are now on the site of the workhouse/hospital.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 17 Apr 2009 18:58

Both parents had died by 1911. Could be she was in a workhouse.

Hilda's in an institution in Middlesbrough.

Rose