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I would apprecaiate any help/advice/inspiration in my quest! I cannot find birth details for my elusive gt grandfather who seemed to change his name at will! Here's what I have: On his marriage certificate in Chiswick in Oct 1904 he is named as Tracey Guy BAREHAM aged 22, son of Herbert William Bareham (deceased). On his first child's birth certificate in 1906 he calls himself George Bareham. On his second child's birth certificate in 1908 he calls himself George Tracey Guy Bareham. On his death certficate in Sep 1949 he was back to Tracy Guy Bareham aged 65 years. I haven't been able to find his birth (would be around 1882/3), or find him on 1901 census. I believe he went to sea in the Merchant Navy in Aug 1901, but I think the census was taken earlier than August? Does anyone have any ideas, or access to 1891 census? Thanks in advance, Clare

Location, please? Rose

I'm afraid the only clues I have are that he was married and raised his children in Chiswick, Middx.

This is a bit of a facer. He might be on the census as George Bareham (there are tons of them). I've been through the Herbert Barehams in 1891 - any idea from marriage cert what his father did for a living? I can't find a likely birth or marriage or death for Herbert William Bareham. nell

Do either of the witnesses to the marriage seem to be related to the groom? Rose

No ideas on Herbert's occupation I'm afraid, though George/Tracey was a waiter or steward. The witnesses at the marriage were Henrietta Bull who was related to his bride, and Ernest Clinch (lovely name!) but don't know who he was.

What is George/Trac(e)y/Guy's address on his marriage cert? nell

Births Jun 1882 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bareham George Holborn 1b 705 The district Holborn spans the boundaries of the counties of London and Middlesex what about this birth June

Using the birth info above, the only George Bareham (if that's what he's called on the census!) born near Holborn area is this chap & his dad isn't Herbert: 1891 Bareham, George abt 1825 Hoyham, Suffolk, England Head Islington London Bareham, Henry abt 1876 Clerkenwell, London, England Son Islington London ***Bareham, George abt 1882 Clerkenwell, London, England Son Islington London Bareham, Alfred abt 1880 Clerkenwell, London, England Son Islington London RG12/161 Folio: 13 Page: 19 Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Islington South West nell

Hi it's 21 Pyrmont Road Grove Park Chiswick.

1901 England Census Record Name: George Bareham Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: London, England RG13/757 Folio: 107 Page: 8 Registration district: Tonbridge He's with a family called Stone and his occupation is carpenter. nell

Hi I'm not sure if that's him because he went to sea in Aug 1901 as a steward - though he may well have changed professions I suppose?

Only Barehams I can find in Chiswick - possibly related in someway to your chap? Emma Bareham abt 1859 Hammersmith, London, England Wife Chiswick Middlesex Frederick W Bareham abt 1889 Chiswick, Middlesex, England Son Chiswick Middlesex George Bareham abt 1861 Mountnessing, Essex, England Head Chiswick Middlesex George J Bareham abt 1887 Chiswick, Middlesex, England Son Chiswick Middlesex View Record Ellen Carroll abt 1827 Ireland Visitor Chiswick Middlesex RG13/1198 Folio: 24 Page: 39 Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Chiswick nell

Clare I'm not convinced that any of the chaps we've found is yours! If he'd only used ALL his fancy names ALL the time, he'd be a lot easier to trace. It would help if his father's occupation was listed on the marriage cert as at least we might be able to find HIM!!!! nell

1901 census ..Battersea...........HTG Barham..........born 1882....mother widowed.............might be worth a look..............

I have looked into these 1901 Barehams before and eliminated them from my enquiries! I wonder whether he was on a ship undergoing training or something like that?

I've now looked for all Guys, all Traceys, all Tracys born 1882 +/- 10 years anywhere. I've checked all surnames Bar* born in same age range in Chiswick. Too many Georges and I can't find a likely Herbert. Sorry, I've run out of ideas/inspiration. Did this chap's children have unusual names that might have been family/sibling's names? nell

The only other possibility is that you trace his details in the Merchant Navy ,which are probably somewhere in Kew - and hope they give an exact birth date and place! nell

Nell thanks for all your help. Guess what? He named his son GEORGE!!!!!! Seems like he'll remain a mystery man for a while longer. Maybe he was adopted? Clare

Births Dec 1882 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cooke Tracey Guy Marylebone 1a 578 Have you seen this birth? do you know his mothers maiden name ? June