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I have some info about this person, is anyone still following this thread?

nancy :-)

Hi June, sounds interesting - there can't have been too many Tracey Guys. I don't know anything about his mother. Will be worth looking into. I will also try to get his Merchant Navy records.

Births Dec 1882 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cooke Tracey Guy Marylebone 1a 578 Have you seen this birth? do you know his mothers maiden name ? June

Nell thanks for all your help. Guess what? He named his son GEORGE!!!!!! Seems like he'll remain a mystery man for a while longer. Maybe he was adopted? Clare

The only other possibility is that you trace his details in the Merchant Navy ,which are probably somewhere in Kew - and hope they give an exact birth date and place! nell

I've now looked for all Guys, all Traceys, all Tracys born 1882 +/- 10 years anywhere. I've checked all surnames Bar* born in same age range in Chiswick. Too many Georges and I can't find a likely Herbert. Sorry, I've run out of ideas/inspiration. Did this chap's children have unusual names that might have been family/sibling's names? nell

I have looked into these 1901 Barehams before and eliminated them from my enquiries! I wonder whether he was on a ship undergoing training or something like that?

1901 census ..Battersea...........HTG Barham..........born 1882....mother widowed.............might be worth a look..............

Clare I'm not convinced that any of the chaps we've found is yours! If he'd only used ALL his fancy names ALL the time, he'd be a lot easier to trace. It would help if his father's occupation was listed on the marriage cert as at least we might be able to find HIM!!!! nell

Only Barehams I can find in Chiswick - possibly related in someway to your chap? Emma Bareham abt 1859 Hammersmith, London, England Wife Chiswick Middlesex Frederick W Bareham abt 1889 Chiswick, Middlesex, England Son Chiswick Middlesex George Bareham abt 1861 Mountnessing, Essex, England Head Chiswick Middlesex George J Bareham abt 1887 Chiswick, Middlesex, England Son Chiswick Middlesex View Record Ellen Carroll abt 1827 Ireland Visitor Chiswick Middlesex RG13/1198 Folio: 24 Page: 39 Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Chiswick nell

Hi I'm not sure if that's him because he went to sea in Aug 1901 as a steward - though he may well have changed professions I suppose?

1901 England Census Record Name: George Bareham Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: London, England RG13/757 Folio: 107 Page: 8 Registration district: Tonbridge He's with a family called Stone and his occupation is carpenter. nell

Hi it's 21 Pyrmont Road Grove Park Chiswick.

Using the birth info above, the only George Bareham (if that's what he's called on the census!) born near Holborn area is this chap & his dad isn't Herbert: 1891 Bareham, George abt 1825 Hoyham, Suffolk, England Head Islington London Bareham, Henry abt 1876 Clerkenwell, London, England Son Islington London ***Bareham, George abt 1882 Clerkenwell, London, England Son Islington London Bareham, Alfred abt 1880 Clerkenwell, London, England Son Islington London RG12/161 Folio: 13 Page: 19 Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Islington South West nell

Births Jun 1882 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bareham George Holborn 1b 705 The district Holborn spans the boundaries of the counties of London and Middlesex what about this birth June

What is George/Trac(e)y/Guy's address on his marriage cert? nell

No ideas on Herbert's occupation I'm afraid, though George/Tracey was a waiter or steward. The witnesses at the marriage were Henrietta Bull who was related to his bride, and Ernest Clinch (lovely name!) but don't know who he was.

Do either of the witnesses to the marriage seem to be related to the groom? Rose

This is a bit of a facer. He might be on the census as George Bareham (there are tons of them). I've been through the Herbert Barehams in 1891 - any idea from marriage cert what his father did for a living? I can't find a likely birth or marriage or death for Herbert William Bareham. nell

I'm afraid the only clues I have are that he was married and raised his children in Chiswick, Middx.