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Ok folks, gold star to anyone who can find out what happed to
Jasper Read b 1914 Elham Kent

Mother May Syrett b 1889-93( it changes frequently!)
Father Samuel Read.

They were living in Folkstone, Radnor St at the time of birth. The mother called her self Miriam Read formerly Syrett. Jasper was born on the 26 Mar 1914 but not registered until 6th may 1914 which is a long time.

However i cannot trace any marriage between these 2.Ii have the birth cert so the dates etc are as per that.

I found him quite by chance on the 1921 census and he is living with

Charles Skinner
Sofa(Sophia)
Charles Skinner son b 1902
Henry Skinner( this is not correct but not relevant)
Bert Evans b 1890
May Evans b 1891( formerly Syrett)
Jasper Read b1914 visitor( but actually May's son before she married Bert)

I also found his school register info up and until 1927 until it says he left the district which was Headcorn, Ashford at the time.

Now its only Jasper I need the info on not the rest of this disjointed family!!

So after he left school in 1927 around aged 13, i have searched and searched but cannot find a marriage or a death or anything. Its as if he vanished into thin air!

Anyone fancy a challenge please?

Florence in the hebrides

EDit: Forgot to add that May Evans remarried in 1933 to Bertie Edward Taylor. Think it says Horton, Kent but not an easy read on the marr cert,

One is allowed 6 weeks in which to register a birth.

Don't worry about the length of time between birth and registration. 6 weeks are allowed in which to register post birth so "made it" (but only just!)

I presume you’ve checked CWGC?

1921 Census Of England & Wales
Tassell Terrace, Headcorn, Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Charles R Skinner Head Male 1862 58 London, London, England Dealer & Hawker Own Account
Sofa Skinner Wife Female 1868 53 Ramsgate, Kent, England Home Duties & General Fam Work -
Charles Skinner Son Male 1902 19 Ashford, Kent, England Cattle Drover Out Of Work
Henry Skinner Son Male 1904 17 Maidstone, Kent, England - -
Bert Evans Visitor Male 1890 30 London, London, England Ships Engineer Out Of Work
May Evans Visitor Female 1891 30 - Home Duties -
Jasper Read Visitor Male 1914 7 Kent, England - -

Where was his mother in 1939?

He is a ‘visitor’ in 1921 because relationships for ALL people on censuses are to the HEAD of the household, if annotated correctly.

Very unlikely as he would have only been c25 years old, but trying to find another Jasper Read in area.

EDIT - There is s a Jasper W Read in Gillingham on the 1939 register (born 1906 on transcript, 1912 on original!) an aeronautical draughtsman who appears with wife Avril only. Will leave for elimination.

Sheerness Times 2 May 1941 - ??????

Parents fined at Sittingbourne for neglecting to send their children to school included -

Jasper Read of 37 Mill Street, Sittingbourne (who has been fined twice previously for similar neglect) was fined £1 in respect of his son George.

Sheerness Times 29 June 1940 - Jasper Read of Mill Street, Milton Regis summoned
Reason as above. 36 attendances our of 98. His 2 girls hadn't attended since 8th April. Warned previously, said couldn't afford shoes. Had 6 children and unemployed. Fined 5/-

I note that this seems to be connected to the very lengthy thread about Haggerty who married a Skinner at some stage

There was another Jasper Read of a similar age in Kent………………although he was an aeronautical draughtsman in 1939, and unlikely to be one in the newspaper article

37 Mill Street was unoccupied in 1939

ADDED

Info about ‘other’ JR as per now edited post by greyghost. Tks - I can’t C&P at the moment

If the man in the newspaper article had fathered 6 children by 1941 - at least three of whom were of school age - some of the family should be on 1939 register.

I assume this is his brother George Samuel. Have you found him in later years? Birth 25 Feb 1912 or 21st according to his baptism.

Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
Read George S Syrett Dover 2a 2141


First name(s) Samuel Georgii
Father's first name(s) Samuelis
Last name Read
Father's last name Read
Birth year 1912
Mother's first name(s) Mariae
Birth date 21 Feb 1912
Mother's last name Syret
Baptism year 1912
Archive Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Southwark
Baptism date 15 Apr 1912
Register type Baptisms
Parish Folkestone, Our Lady Help of Christians & St Aloysius
Register year range 1890-1918
Deanery Dover
Record set England Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms
Diocese Southwark

Jasper W Read married Avril Jeanes 1939 Medway RD. Only that one surname combination married post 1920 so - possible child 1942 Kidderminster, another 1944 Chatham RD

Not the man fined for neglecting to send his children to school.

Your Jasper could have been in the Forces already so not recorded on the 1939

Can’t positively identify George S after 1919 (school record)

If Jasper was in the Forces, he wouldn’t have been ‘unemployed’ in 1940/41, unless he’d been discharged…………..

Jasper's not with his mother in 1939 - unsurprisingly:

May M Taylor
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name May M Taylor
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 13 Aug 1892
Residence Date 1939
Address 1 Sims Buildings
Residence Place Woolwich, London, England
Occupation Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number 4
Schedule Number 120
Sub Schedule Number 2
Enumeration District Azbe
Borough Woolwich
Registration district 29-1
Inferred Spouse
Bert E Taylor
Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year
Bert E Taylor Male 1891
May M Taylor Female 1892

Ty for all your info.
So ErikaH, yes the other lengthy thread was re Sophia marrying a haggerty but this thread is purely trying to find May's son jasper Read.

When I looked at the school records, it was obvious he only attended part time and I think they moved around quite a bit.

That Jasper W Read is not the correct one. I have his birth cert b 1914.

Alviegirl, that George S Read child died aged 13 months, i download the death cert.

ArgyllGran our posts crossed

Oh well done for finding his parents ty. So now they were in Woolwich London, by golly they moved so much

So who was the George Samuel Read in school in Headcorn with DoB of 25th Feb 1912?

In 1917 his mother was Mrs Read of Glover’s Bridge (‘Mrs Skinner’). SAME in 1918

In 1919 his mother was Mrs Read of Wheeler Street - identical info to that for Jasper

No death on freebmd to fit a child aged 13 months………….where was it registered?

Link to the other thread, mentioned by ErikaH - but probably too long and convoluted for anyone to read through it all now:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1402832

Anyway, it doesn't mention Jasper.


ADDED:

Ah, I knew Sims Buildings rang a bell.

I found that 1939 record in 2021:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1396232

No, Jasper isn’t mentioned - the link is probably the name Sophia Skinner with whom the family were visiting in 1921