Find Ancestors

Right Im back

So so sorry.

May had a baby called Samuel Syrett born on 1911 Q1, he died in 1911 from Enteritus or something like that. Milton Kent On that birth cert, May didnt name the father as left blank. She was in the Chatham workhouse then.

So in 1912 21 Feb she had another son called Samuel George Read baptised 15 Apr 1912. In Dover. On this cert she says shes married and formerly Syrett.

Then in 1914 she had Jasper Read. who was on the 1921 census but Samuel George Read wasnt.

The child born 1912 was named George S(amuel) as per birth registration and school records

I have just realised ErikaH why this school record sounded familiar and now I know.

I had been looking at Jasper's school record and at that time hadn't discovered she had had 2 other children before him. So when I found Jasper on the 1919 school record unbeknown to me on the same page was an entry for George Samuel!!

I have only recently found these details and havent searched properly for Samuel George as was concentrating on finding Jasper.

Yes she was calling herself Mrs Read I think to save face as she really was still Miss Syrett until she married Bert Evans in 1921 and then Bertie e Taylor in 1933.

She probably was also living at her sisters who was Sophia Skinner in Headcorn.

So then we know that both brothers were in school together in 1919 but after that?

Yes of course in 1921Jasper was with his mother etc but no brother George S Read. and no sign of Jasper after 1921.

Think I have got that straight now phew!

This is the closest I'm finding even though the date of birth is way out.
Gasper not Gadper and 1899 not 1897.

1939 Register
Church Farm Headcorn, Ulcombe, Hollingbourne R.D., Kent, England

Household members (9 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
Gadper Read 25 Apr 1897 Male Rag Collector Married 84 1
Ethel M Read 15 Oct 1903 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 84 3
Ellen Mary Hatchett (Read) 25 Jul 1925 Female Field Worker Single 84 4

The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.

OP seems not to have noticed the info dated 1940/41 posted by greyghost

I saw that 1939 record for Gasper, Alviegal, and have spent ages trying to find the parents' marriage (if any) , without success.


The daughter married Ernest A Hatchet in 1947 in Sittingbourne, and died in Swale reg district in 1987.

I'm not sure that all the closed records relate to Gasper and Ethel, as they and Ellen are at the bottom of a page.

Ethel also appears on the following page, which is a page for corrections.

Oh i have also been looking for a marriage too but without success.

I enlarged the image and def agree aviegal that it is a Jasper

I have to disagree with you, Florence - to me it definitely looks like Gasper.

But the man's proper name was probably Jasper, or Casper, or other spelling - or maybe it's just a name he was known by.

Well yes I agree but it was poorly written but i thought it looked like a Jasper.

I checked out the other J W Read and his mothers maiden name is Walter so def not him.(as per greyghost post )

There is a George L Read b 1938 Q2 mmn Haines but when I looked this up on Free BMD the wife he married didnt fit. This was in connection with the newspaper article about a Jasper's son George not attending school.

The thing is when i discovered who Jasper was on the 1921 census, I thought with a name like that, I would be able to locate him and see where his life took him. But how wrong was I ???

Well for today, im not looking anymore as I have spent hours and my eyes need a break from the PC. Ty to all for all your info. i shall carry on tomorrow when Im free and see what I find.

Florence in the hebrides

PETTY SESSIONS On Monday, Jasper Read, dealer, father of 9 children, was summoned for the 12th time for non-attendance at school of 2 of his children. He was also summoned for non-payment of a fine of £4 in respect of 4 children inflicted some time ago. He was committed to prison for 21 days in respect of the unpaid fine and was fined a further £2 in respect of the latest summons.

22 Dec 1944 Kentish Express, Ashford.

Is there anyway of finding out who lived with Jasper at the add in Sittingbourne, 37 Mill street in 1941 0r 1944? If we knew who he was married to that would help?

My goodness 9 children!

No, there were no Electoral Rolls in wartime.

There is no evidence of his marrying anyone, unless he did so using a name other than the one he was given at birth

What about after the war say in 1949?

Contact the main public library for the town and ask if they do lookups. There may be a charge.

Electoral rolls should be available for 1946 onward and will probably be found in a main library or archive local to the address in question.

Finding school records could possibly give you other family names to work with.
It should be possible to find the nearest primary school to Mill Street. Secondary schools might not be so straight forward.

Ty ErikaH and Gwyn, I shall make some enquiries and keep you posted

Morning all
So I have just spoken to the archive dept at the Maidstone library as that's where they are based for Kent.

So they are sending me an online form to complete with the years I want searched on the ER. 2 years is £21 4/5 is £42.

So what years will I ask to be searched? I was thinking maybe 1937, 38 and then 1946, 47 & 48? Those years cover either side of the war. They search on the address as opposed to the name.

Don’t forget that anyone on those ER has to be 21 and eligible to vote.

It's unfortunate that the crucial years weren't covered by ERs.

The years you suggest sound like the most likely in the circumstances.