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Henry Naylor, possibly Nailor

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Yvonne

Yvonne Report 24 Feb 2021 18:43

I'm trying to find Henry Naylor, born about 1817 in St. Helens, Lancashire, to parents John Naylor and Margaret ??. I can't find him in 1841 census but there's an entry in 1851 census that could be him. It shows him married to Jane, living in Sutton Heath, with children Edmund, Elizabeth and Thomas.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

malyon

malyon Report 24 Feb 2021 18:51

Henry Naylor
England and Wales Census, 1841
Name:
Henry Naylor
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1841
Event Place:
Prescot, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Prescot, Lancashire, England
County:
Lancashire
Parish:
Prescot
Registration District:
Prescot
Residence Note:
John Street
Sex:
Male
Age:
20
Age (Original):
20
Birth Year (Estimated):
1817-1821
Birthplace:
Lancashire
Page Number:
18
Registration Number:
HO107
Piece/Folio:
516/13
Affiliate Record Type:
Institution
Affiliate Image Identifier:
GBC/1841/0516/0222&parentid=GBC/1841/0010865576
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
James Parr Male 35 Lancashire
Ann Parr Female 30 Lancashire
Jonathan Parr Male 10 Lancashire
James Parr Male 5 Lancashire
Margaret Traverse Female 35 Lancashire
Mary Traverse Female 10 Lancashire
Jane Stringfellow Female 20 Lancashire
Henry Naylor Male 20 Lancashire

malyon

malyon Report 24 Feb 2021 18:54

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Henry Naylor
England and Wales Census, 1891
Name:
Henry Naylor
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1891
Event Place:
St Helens, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
St Helens, Lancashire, England
Event Place Note:
Mill Lane
County:
Lancashire
Parish:
St Helens
Ecclesiastical Parish:
ST NICHOLAS
Enumeration District:
36
Registration District:
Prescot
Sex:
Male
Age:
74
Marital Status:
Married
Occupation:
Colliery Labourer
Birth Year (Estimated):
1817
Birthplace:
Lancashire, England
Relationship to Head of Household:
Head
Page Number:
8
Registration Number:
RG12
Piece/Folio:
3026/ 87
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Affiliate Image Identifier:
GBC/1891/3026/0178&parentid=GBC/1891/0020773684
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Henry Naylor Head Male 74 Lancashire, England
Jane Naylor Wife Female 73 Lancashire, England
Henry France Lodger Male 25 Lancashire, England
Martha France Wife Female 24 Lancashire, England
Edward France Son Male 2 Lancashire, England

safc

safc Report 24 Feb 2021 18:55

Marriage: 19 Jul 1841 All Saints, Rainford, Lancashire, England
Henry Naylor - Of full age, Husbandman, Bachelor, Sutton
Jane Stringfellow - (X), Of full age, Spinster, Eccleston
Groom's Father: Edmund Naylor, Husbandman
Bride's Father: Thomas Stringfellow, Collier
Witness: Ann Hill, (X); Thomas Mercer, (X)
Married by Banns by: Wm. Ellam Minister
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1848, Page 100, Entry 199
Source: LDS Film 1657567

safc

safc Report 24 Feb 2021 18:56

Record Transcription:
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

John Street, Prescot, Lancashire, England

Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
James Parr Male 35 1806 Lancashire, England
Ann Parr Female 30 1811 Lancashire, England
Jonathan Parr Male 10 1831 Lancashire, England
James Parr Male 5 1836 Lancashire, England
Margaret Traverse Female 35 1806 Lancashire, England
Mary Traverse Female 10 1831 Lancashire, England
Jane Stringfellow Female 20 1821 Lancashire, England
Henry Naylor Male 20 1821 Lancashire, England

malyon

malyon Report 24 Feb 2021 19:01

Henry Naylor
England Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:
Henry Naylor
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
17 Apr 1843
Event Place:
Tyldesley, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Tyldesley, Lancashire, England
Sex:
Male
Marital Status:
Single
Father's Name:
James Naylor
Spouse's Name:
Jane Battersby
Spouse's Sex:
Female
Spouse's Marital Status:
Single
Spouse's Father's Name:
Peter Battersby


Henry Naylor
England, Lancashire, Parish Registers 1538-1910





Name:
Henry Naylor
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
19 Jul 1841
Event Place:
All Saints, Rainford, Lancashire, England
Sex:
Male
Marital Status:
Single
Father's Name:
Edmund Naylor
Spouse's Name:
Jane Stringfellow
Spouse's Sex:
Female
Spouse's Marital Status:
Single
Spouse's Father's Name:
Thomas Stringfellow

malyon

malyon Report 24 Feb 2021 19:10

Mary Naylor
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:
Mary Naylor
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
20 Aug 1843
Event Place:
St Helens, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
St Helens, Lancashire, England
Sex:
Female
Father's Name:
Henry Naylor
Mother's Name:
Jane

Mary Naylor
England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
Name:
Mary Naylor
Event Type:
Burial
Event Date:
16 Sep 1846
Event Place:
Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Lancaster, England
Residence Place:
Sutton
Sex:
Female
Age:
3
Birth Year (Estimated):
1843

malyon

malyon Report 24 Feb 2021 19:16

Ellen Naylor
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Ellen Naylor
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
16 Nov 1845
Event Place:
St Helens, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
St Helens, Lancashire, England
Sex:
Female
Father's Name:
Henry Naylor
Mother's Name:
Jane

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 24 Feb 2021 19:19

I thought you had hit the nail on the head with the 1841 reference, giving Henry Naylor living in the same household as Jane Stringfellow, but looking at other info given, Henry's father is shown as Edmund. My Henry's father was John, so I guess this puts me back to square one.
Thanks.

malyon

malyon Report 24 Feb 2021 19:23

sutton is in st helens

malyon

malyon Report 24 Feb 2021 19:54

are you sure henry was born in 1817

safc

safc Report 24 Feb 2021 19:54

????
who did henry naylor marry and when

malyon

malyon Report 24 Feb 2021 20:11

could this be the marriage of henry's parents

ohn Nailor
England Marriages, 1538–1973

Name:
John Nailor
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
5 Nov 1815
Event Place:
Wigan All Saints, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Wigan Parish, Lancaster, England
Sex:
Male
Spouse's Name:
Margaret Jackman
Spouse's Sex:
Female

malyon

malyon Report 24 Feb 2021 20:16

sutton is in st helens and he has a son named john

Henry Naylor
England and Wales Census, 1871

Name:
Henry Naylor
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1871
Event Place:
Sutton, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Sutton, Lancashire, England
Sub-District:
St Helen
Enumeration District:
31
Sex:
Male
Age:
55
Marital Status:
Married
Occupation:
Agricultural Labourer
Birth Year (Estimated):
1816
Birthplace:
Sutton, Lancashire
Relationship to Head of Household:
Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):
Head
Affiliate Image Identifier:
GBC/1871/3867/0251
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Henry Naylor Head Male 55 Sutton, Lancashire
Jane Naylor Wife Female 55 Sutton, Lancashire
Henry Naylor Son Male 19 Sutton, Lancashire
John Naylor Son Male 17 Sutton, Lancashire
William Naylor Son Male 12 Sutton, Lancashire
Martha Naylor Granddaughter Female 5 Sutton, Lancashire

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Feb 2021 21:33

Where did you find the information that his parents were John and Margaret?

I don't see any baptism with that info.

If it was from his marriage cert, who did he marry?

How did you work back to him?

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 24 Feb 2021 22:00

I'm not at all sure that Henry was born in 1817. I have the following children from parents John Naylor (Nailor) and Margaret:
John b. approx. 1813
Margaret b. approx. 1815
Henry b. approx. 1817
Joseph b. 1820, baptised 27 Feb 1820
James b. 8 June 1823, baptised 29 June 1823
Peers b. 5 April 1825, baptised 24 April 1825

Joseph is my direct line.

Margaret and Peers never married.
I have nothing on Henry.

malyon

malyon Report 24 Feb 2021 22:23

Peers Naylor
England and Wales Census, 1851Name:
Peers Naylor
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1851
Event Place:
Sutton, Lancashire, England
Registration District:
Prescot
Sex:
Male
Age:
26
Marital Status:
Unmarried
Occupation:
Clerk Glass Works
Birth Year (Estimated):
1825
Birthplace:
Sutton, Lancashire
Relationship to Head of Household:
Son
Page Number:
21
Registration Number:
HO107
Piece/Folio:
2195 / 172
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Affiliate Image Identifier:
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC/1851/4298920/00180&parentid=GBC/1851/0001565360
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Margaret Naylor Head Female 70 St Helens, Lancashire
Peers Naylor Son Male 26 Sutton, Lancashire

malyon

malyon Report 24 Feb 2021 22:25

Peers Naylor
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name:
Peers Naylor
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1871
Event Place:
Eccleston, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Eccleston, Lancashire, England
Sub-District:
St Helen
Enumeration District:
18
Sex:
Male
Age:
46
Marital Status:
Unknown
Occupation:
Retired Clerk
Birth Year (Estimated):
1825
Birthplace:
Sutton, Lancashire
Relationship to Head of Household:
Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):
Head
Affiliate Image Identifier:
GBC/1871/3865/0107
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Peers Naylor Head Male 46 Sutton, Lancashire
Margaret Naylor Sister Female 57 Newton, Lancashire
Alice Naylor Niece Female 17 Eccleston, Lancashire

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 24 Feb 2021 22:57

Thanks.
I’m stumped though as to why I can’t find anything about Henry. I’m wondering if perhaps he could’ve died.

safc

safc Report 24 Feb 2021 22:59

Baptism: 24 Apr 1825 St Mary (now St Helen), St Helens, Lancashire, England
Peers Nailor - Son of John Nailor & Margaret
Abode: Sutton
Occupation: Glass Maker
Baptised by: T. Pigot
Register: Baptisms 1824 - 1833 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page [21], Entry 164
Source: LDS Film 1469036