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ErikaH
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Elizabeth would have been 5 months pregnant in August 1898
. She was last seen on the 1891 census at home with her family
If she left Aldbourne 5 years before 1898 she would have been 14 years old.
The rest of her family are still at home on the 1901 census.

If the chaplain service was while she was in prison can you read the name of the prison?

At the top of the document it says Chargeability and then something is handwritten. Can you read what that says. I can't make it out

Thank you so much for taking the time to read it
Linda

ErikaH
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Elizabeth would have been 5 months pregnant in August 1898
. She was last seen on the 1891 census at home with her family

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6598/images/WILRG12_972_974-0297?pId=27006714&backurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ancestry.com%2Ffamily-tree%2Fperson%2Ftree%2F27348072%2Fperson%2F2043450200%2Ffacts%2Fcitation%2F542032135165%2Fedit%2Frecord

If she left Aldbourne 5 years before 1898 she would have been 14 years old.
The rest of her family are still at home on the 1901 census.

If the chaplain service was while she was in prison can you read the name of the prison?

At the top of the document it says Chargeability and then something is handwritten. Can you read what that says. I can't make it out

Thank you so much for taking the time to read it
Linda

Edited my previous post...................

BTW, she was back in Wilts for her 1900 marriage

she was. She married a man who was 30 years her senior and left him sometime around 1913 according to my husbands grandfather. he had been in hospital and came home and his mum had gone and taken her daughter and never seen again

If someone could read the name of the prison that she was in would i be able to find any records

thanks
linda

Chargeability=====Pregnant and Destitute,

Thank you Kay

She was aged 7 MONTHS when the 'Chaplain service' took place.

It MAY NOT be 'prison' ........................that was only how it seemed taking an initial look at the doc.

As you will have observed, I deleted that reference from my earlier post and gave you instead the FULL wording of the writing at the head of the page

Thank you ErikaH for taking the time to look at this.
I suppose because a time was given for the previous addresses it would just follow on that the chaplain service was for 7 months .
She was baptised sept 1879 about a month after she was born. So I don't know what a chaplain service would be aged 7 months.
I wish the wording after chaplain service was easier to decipher.

Thanks once again for your help
Linda

It says "Wormwood Scrubs Prison."

ArgyllGran
Thank you so much. Now you have said it I can see it,
Just need to see if I can find any records now.
Thank you so much
Linda

From this, on the National Archives website, it looks as if London Metropolitan Archives MIGHT have some records:

https://tinyurl.com/ydb49aa7

However, from a quick look at their website, it doesn't look as if they have much relevant for 1879-80.


Maybe this, re Baptism, Confirmation and Service Registers:

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/N13852580

Argyll Gran I will go take a look now
Thank You
LInda

However, she was baptised in Wiltshire, and was too young to be confirmed - so I don't know why else the chaplain might have been involved.

Perhaps some care issue as presumably one of her parents was an inmate.

Just for our reference:

Elizabeth Carter
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Carter
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: William Carter
Mother: Sarah Carter
Gender: Female
Where born: Aldbourne, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Aldbourn
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street address: Rounce Cottage
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Hungerford
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors:
Piece: 1276
Folio: 32
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
William Carter 34
Sarah Carter 35
Thomas Jerrom 15 - stepson
William G. Carter 11
John H. Carter 8
George J. Carter 6
Charles Carter 4
Elizabeth Carter 1



Sarah Jerram
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Sarah Jerram
Registration Year: 1868
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Hungerford
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 501
Records on Page:
Name
William Carter
Sarah Jerram

ArgyllGran thank you once again

I don't think her parents were inmates as on all the census they never moved from the same area.
Elizabeths mother died in Aldbourne in 1887 and her father remarried in 1901 but lived in the same area. He was an agricultural labourer and died in Aldbourne in 1905.

If the document from the Fulham union says she left Aldbourne 5 years previous then that would have been around 1893 . She would have been around 14 years of age.
So her time in Wormwood scrubs would have been between 1893 and 1898.

Thanks for all your help
Linda

Just on the wild off-chance:

Sarah Carter
in the England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: Sarah Carter
Date of Trial: 5 Feb 1880
Trial Year: 1880
Location of Trial: Wiltshire, England
Sentence: Acquittal

Crime: concealment.
In the "Acquitted or discharged" column it says "Bill ignored".

Maybe Sarah was in prison prior to trial, and had her baby with her ??


EDIT:
No, that doesn't fit with the times given for Elizabeth's various places of residence.


EDIT AGAIN:
No, it must have been Elizabeth who was at the prison, not Sarah - and I think it means she was there for 7 months, not that she was 7 months old.

Born JAS 1879, Elizabeth would have been about 7 months in Feb1880, so your find looks perfectly feasible, AG, although Wormwood Scrubs is a fair old way from Wiltshire

If elizabeth was in prison when she was 7 months old then why would that be on the document from fulham union. surely it would would give other addresses after that time.
and what chaplain service would it be

If however she was in prison between 1893 and 1898 for 7 months could she have been working for the chaplain . ?

Think I might change my name to " clutching at straws"

Thanks
LInda

Elizabeths brother was born in 1881. baptised 3rd july 1881 in Aldbourne.