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Thanks Sylvia, you have been a great help.

I have James at home with his parents on the 1861 census at New Row, Haswell, Co Durham. George baptism is the 15 August 1841.

Disregard the passenger records for George and Elizabeth ................ they are the other George.

This is their son Foster on the same ship ...........

New South Wales Passenger Lists

Passage type Assisted
Record set New South Wales Passenger Lists
Sex Male
First name(s) Foster
Last name Race
Year 1883
Vessel Samuel Slimsoll <<<<<<<<<<
Departure port -
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Occupation Carpenter
Age 17
Birth year 1866
Nationality/where born Durham
Arrival port -
Arrival year 1883
Arrival date 17 Jun 1883
Archive State Records Authority of New South Wales
Year range 1883
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Collections from Australasia


I've seen records for George and Elizabeth with ship's name shown as both Samuel Slimsoll and as S Plimsoll.

Perhaps you can find the records on Family Search??

and 1871 ........

1871 England Census

Name: George Race
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Race
Gender: Male
Where born: Haswell, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Houghton le Spring
Ecclesiastical parish: Houghton le Spring
Town: Houghton le Spring
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Houghton Le Spring
Sub-registration district: Houghton le Spring
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 269
Piece: 4979
Folio: 101
Page Number: 56

George Race 30 Coal Miner
Elizabeth Race 30 b.ca 1841, Haswell
Forster Race 3
Mary Race 1

Address:- 33 Prospect Row


1881 Census

Name: George Race
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Elizabeth Race
Gender: Male
Where born: Haswell, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Newbottle
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 10 Hoppers Brick Yard
Marital Status: Married

Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration district: Houghton Le Spring
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors:
Piece: 4973
Folio: 96
Page Number: 15

George Race 40
Elizabeth Race 40 b.ca 1841, Cornsay, Durham
Forster Race 13
Mary Race 11
Anthony Race 9
James Race 4
Jane Race 1


Or maybe not ................... this George still seems to be in the UK in1891??

1891 Census

Name: George Race
Gender: Male
Age: 49
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1842
Spouse: Elizabeth Race
Child: Mary Race
Anthony Race
James Race
Jane Race
Birth Place: Haswell, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Seaham
Residence Place: New Seaham, Seaham, Durham, England
Sub registration district: Easington
ED, Institution or Vessel: 27
Neighbors:
Piece: 4112
Folio: 53
Household Members:
Name Age
George Race 49
Elizabeth Race 49
Mary Race 28
Anthony Race 18
James Race 14
Jane Race 11


There ARE 2 George Races ....... one baptised 15 Aug 1841, Easington, Durham, parents George and Elizabeth; and one baptised 15 May 1840, Monk Hesleton, Durham, parents George and Mary.


I think the George on these 1871, 1881 and 1891 censuses is the OTHER one ........ but I'll leave them up as a warning for other helpers!!

Yes, that "mother of Mrs George Race" confused me as well. It was Mrs on the image, but I wonder if it was just the printer making a mistake??


Is this George in 1861? It was mistranscribed as Rose, but someone has had the correct spelling noted.

1861 Census

Name: George Rose
[George Race]
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: 1842
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England
Civil Parish: Crook and Billy Row
Ecclesiastical parish: Crook
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Hamsterley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9

Household schedule number: 275
Piece: 3715
Folio: 31
Page Number: 55

James Rose 22 Coal Miner
Elizabeth Rose 21
Hannah Rose 6/12
George Rose 19 Coal Miner

Address:- Billy Hill

Name: James Rose
[James Race]
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Rose
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England

Hello Sylvia, I have his other brother James on a different thread altogether back in August. I was looking for the death of his wife Hannah and you actually found a bigamous marriage for both of them. Quite an interesting family!!

Posted the above before I had seen page 2.

Hello Sylvia, yes Elizabeth also had son George born 1841 (baptised 15 August 1841). I have him aged 9 on the 1851 census at Easington, Co Durham but can't find him after that. I was a bit confused by the death notice saying Mrs George Race. Looking at it properly I should have noticed the different address. Will try and find George.

It looks like Elizabeth and son George emigrated about 3 months before William.

I wonder is any more of William's siblings also moved down under??

drat ......... Ancestry's passenger lists don't start until 1890!

???
New South Wales Passenger Lists

Passage type Unassisted
Sex Female
First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Race
Year 1883
Vessel S Plimsoll <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Departure port London
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Age -
Nationality/where born -
Arrival port Sydney, New South Wales
Arrival year 1883
Arrival date 13 Jun 1883
Seaman or passenger Passenger
Archive State Records Authority of New South Wales
Year range 1883
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Collections from Australasia


and ?????

Passage type Unassisted
Record set New South Wales Passenger Lists
Sex Male
First name(s) George
Last name Race
Year 1883
Vessel S Plimsoll
Departure port London
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Age -
Nationality/where born -
Arrival port Sydney, New South Wales
Arrival year 1883
Arrival date 13 Jun 1883
Seaman or passenger Passenger
Archive State Records Authority of New South Wales
Year range 1883
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Collections from Australasia


I can't open the images for some reason to see who else is there. I'll have a look on ancestry


DISREGARD .............. see below!

Marain .........

you're welcome.

Trove is a wee bit difficult to navigate, you just have to keep trying.

You might also get a lot from the National Archives site ........ especially the military service. I would not be at all surprised to find that at least some of the Race family served in WW1.

I'll check on FMP for Elizabeth's emigration.

Did I understand the funeral notice correctly ............. she had another son George who also emigrated? Did you know that??

Hello Sylvia, just logged on and seen the above. Thank you so much, so much information to digest. I hadn't realised Elizabeth had also gone to Australia. I had logged onto Trove as I have used the site years ago but I seem to have lost the knack of navigating round the site after so long. Thank you also for adding the web sites - kind regards - Marian

Notice of Elizabeth Race's death from Trove ???

The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) Thursday 29 December 1892 p 1 Family Notices
... , . RACE.— December 25 ... , 1892, at the reside n c o ® r son, William Race, at DampbclUU, >Vallsei d, Elizabeth, tho beloved ... 324 words

from image...........

RACE -- December 25 1892, 1t the residence of her son William Race, at Campbell Street, Wallsend, Elizabeth, the beloved mother of Mrs George Race, Nestlebrae, Liverpool Rd, Summer-hill, Sydney, aged 82.

1913 Electoral Register

WALLSEND—P.LATTSE RG POLLING-PLACE-1913.
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1040 Race Elizabeth Jane F Nelson-street housemaid
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It's hard to say where she is actually living, or who she is working for ............... the list is alphabetical by surname, and there are no numbers to the houses. People with different names and on different streets are before and after her name.

More marriages??

New South Wales Marriages 1788-1945

First name(s) George E
Last name Race
Denomination -
Marriage year 1903
Registration year 1903
Registration district Maitland West
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Spouse's first name(s) Ellen
Spouse's last name Prince
Registration number 1407
Volume reference -
Cross reference -
Record set New South Wales Marriages 1788-1945
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Australasia


First name(s) Violet
Last name Race
Denomination -
Marriage year 1922
Registration year 1922
Registration district Chatswood
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Spouse's first name(s) Percy N
Spouse's last name Clarke
Registration number 11532
Volume reference -
Cross reference -
Record set New South Wales Marriages 1788-1945
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Australasia


and I'm guessing this is the marriage of the Australian-born James from the district ...........

First name(s) James
Last name Race
Denomination -
Marriage year 1923
Registration year 1923
Registration district Maitland West
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Spouse's first name(s) Mabel V
Spouse's last name Hurn
Registration number 6317
Volume reference -
Cross reference -
Record set New South Wales Marriages 1788-1945
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Australasia

Yes ..... that was Elizabeth's death ...... another record .........

New South Wales, Newcastle, Lost Cemeteries 1842-1902

First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Race
Age 82 years
Birth year 1810
Birth place -
Death year 1892
Death date 25-Dec-1892
Cemetery "old" Wallsend Cemetery
Spouse's name George Race
Father's name Ralph Forster
Mother's name (Unknown)
City Newcastle
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Record set New South Wales, Newcastle, Lost Cemeteries 1842-1902
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from Australasia

New South Wales 1901 Census

First name(s) W
Last name Race
Sex Unknown
Year 1901
Location Metcalfe ST
Sub-district Wallsend
District Wallsend
County Northumberland
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Series NRS 685
Film number 1112
Record set New South Wales 1901 Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Australasia

from image:-
only additional information is that there are 5 males and 3 females in the household



Is this the death of William's mother Elizabeth???

New South Wales Deaths 1788-1945

First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Race
Birth year -
Death year 1892
Registration year 1892
Age at death -
Registration district Wallsend
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Father's first name(s) Ralph
Mother's first name(s) -
Registration number 13229
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Australasia


Just because it came up .............

First name(s) James
Last name Race
Birth year -
Death year 1906
Registration year 1906
Age at death -
Registration district Wallsend
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Registration number 14601
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Australasia


First name(s) Margaret
Last name Race
Birth year -
Death year 1924
Registration year 1924
Age at death -
Registration district Wallsend
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Father's first name(s) George
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Registration number 18083
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Australasia

from FMP 1880 to 1920 ..........

New South Wales 1891 Census
.
First name(s) William
Last name Race
Sex Male
Year 1891
Location Brooks ST
District Wallsend
Sub-district Wallsend Central
County Northumberland
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Series NRS 683
Film number 2536
Record set New South Wales 1891 Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Australasia

from image:-
only information really is 5 males and 4 females living in the house (no names given)


from FMP .........

New South Wales Births

First name(s) James
Last name Race
Birth year 1888
Registration year 1888
Denomination -
Registration district Wallsend
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Registration number 33654
Record set New South Wales Births
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Australasia


First name(s) Violet
Last name Race
Birth year 1890
Registration year 1890
Denomination -
Registration district Wallsend
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Registration number 35691
Record set New South Wales Births
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Australasia



and I guess this is George Edward's child ............

First name(s) Edna
Last name Race
Birth year 1903
Registration year 1903
Denomination -
Registration district Wallsend
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Father's first name(s) George E
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
Registration number 35136
Record set New South Wales Births
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Australasia

from FMP, William's death .........

Australia Deaths & Burials, 1816-1980

First name(s) William
Last name Race
Gender Male
Marital status Married
Occupation -
Birth year 1850
Birth place -
Death year 1915
Death date 09 Jan 1915
Age at death 65
Death place -
Burial date -
Burial place New South Wales, Australia
Cemetery Wallsend - Methodist
Spouse's first name(s) Margaret
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Record set Australia Deaths & Burials, 1816-1980
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Australasia


The NSW bmd information gives his parents names, but not his wife's .........

New South Wales Deaths 1788-1945

First name(s) William
Last name Race
Birth year -
Death year 1915
Registration year 1915
Age at death -
Registration district Wallsend
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Father's first name(s) George
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Registration number 1221
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Australasia