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Janet

Janet Report 13 May 2018 15:33

Looking for descendants of James R Turrell born 1851 in Great Yarmouth - he had a brother Samuel Frederick Turrell born 1853 who married Georgiana Hogg.I believe he only had one child.
Thanks Ginny

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 May 2018 15:38

Is this James on the 1911 census......

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
116 Havelock Road Great Yarmouth, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

James Robert Turrell Head Married Male 60 1851 Gt Yarmouth Norfolk Labourer
Sarah Turrell Wife Married Female 54 1857 Gt Yarmouth Norfolk

Married 37 years.....One child born and living

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 May 2018 15:42

James Robert Turrell in the Norfolk, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1940
Name: James Robert Turrell
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1851
Marriage Date: 18 Jun 1874
Marriage Place: Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Parish as it Appears: Great Yarmouth
Spouse: Sarah Creak
Father: Benjamin Turrell

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 May 2018 15:45

So the child was Sarah??

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wordsworth PL, 6, Tower Street, Gt Yarmouth, Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Sarah Turrell Wife Head Married Female 24 1857 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Wife Of Fisherman
Sarah M Turrell Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Lincolnshire, England Scholar

Janet

Janet Report 13 May 2018 15:46

Thanks for info I believe that is who I'm looking for trying to determine wether he is Samuel F Turrells brother and name of his children.
Thanks
Ginny

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 May 2018 15:49

The daughters birth.......

TURRELL, SARAH MATILDA MMN CREAK
GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in CAISTOR Volume 07A Page 673 Order

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 15:54

Well, looks like Samuel and James are bothers. Same mmn on GRO index


TURRELL, JAMES ROBERT SEELY Order
GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in GREAT YARMOUTH Volume 13 Page 392 Order
TURRELL, SAMUEL FREDERICK SEELY Order
GRO Reference: 1853 S Quarter in GREAT YARMOUTH NORFOLK Volume 04B Page 2 Order

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 May 2018 16:02

Samuel Frederick Turrell in the Norfolk, England, Bishop's Transcripts, 1579-1935
Name: Samuel Frederick Turrell
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 3 Aug 1853
Baptism Place: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Father: James Turrell
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 1526648


Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts Baptisms Transcription
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First name(s) James Robert
Last name Turrell
Sex Male
Year 1851
Event type Christening
Place -
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Turrell
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
County Norfolk
Country England
Record set Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 16:04

You need to be careful as there are two James Robert Turrells born in 1851 in the same area.


TURRELL, JAMES ROBERT MIEN Order
GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in GREAT YARMOUTH Volume 13 Page 436 Order
TURRELL, JAMES ROBERT SEELY Order
GRO Reference: 1851 S QuarTher GREAT YARMOUTH

ONE OF THEM DIED 1920 and the other 1941.

This the one who died in 1941. Given his DOB here, I don't think he's your James Robert.


1939 register

Turrell Household (2 People)
58 Boreham Road , Great Yarmouth C.B., Norfolk, England

James R Turrell
DOB 16 Mar 1851
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Retired
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 293
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

Sarah Turrell
DOB 29 Sep 1856
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 293
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 May 2018 16:08

Note that the marriage i posted for James Robert Turrell......names his father as Benjamin Occ: Fisherman.

It needs checking because on the 1871 census, James Robert's father James is a Fishing Boat Owner.

Janet

Janet Report 13 May 2018 16:11

Thanks
I believe there was also an older brother Benjamin born 1848 but can't find them on any census together- would also like to find if Benjamin had children.
Ginny

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 16:11

Sorry Prickles, I was editing my post while you were adding yours. I don't think the one who married Sarah is Samuel's brother.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 May 2018 16:16

Ah, the Marriage i posted is for the wrong James Robert Turrell

James Turrell in the 1861 England Census

Name: James Turrell
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: 1851
Relation: Son
Father's name: Benjamin Turrell
Mother's name: An Turrell
Gender: Male
Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth St Nicholas
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
Town: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Southern
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 78
Piece: 1191
Folio: 102
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Turrell 39>>>>> Fisherman
An Turrell 39
Benjamin Turrell 13
William Turrell 11
James Turrell 10
Ann Turrell 2






Maddie

Maddie Report 13 May 2018 16:19

1871
Pier Road Pier Place, Great Yarmouth, Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Turrell Head - Male 53 1818 - Suffolk, England
Transcription - fishing boat owner
Elizabeth Turrell Wife - Female 51 1820 - Norfolk, England
Transcription
Elizabeth Turrell Daughter - Female 26 1845 - Norfolk, England
Transcription
James Turrell Son - Male 19 1852 - Norfolk, England
Transcription
Samuel Turrell Son - Male 17 1854 - Norfolk, England
Transcription
Mary Ann Turrell Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Norfolk, England
Transcription
James Turrell Grandson - Male 3 1868 - Norfolk, England

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 16:23

Benjamin wasn't Samuel's brother. Looks like (allowing for mistransciptions) that he was the other James Robert's brother.


TURRELL, BENJAMIN JOHN MINN Order
GRO Reference: 1847 D Quarter in GREAT YARMOUTH Volume 13 Page 348

That would explain why you haven't found Benjamin, James and Samuel together on census. Ben will be on a census with a James Robert and Samuel will be in a different household with his brother James Robert.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 16:31

Elizabeth
Last name Seely
Sex Female
Age Full Age
Birth year -
Residence Nine Parish Row
Marriage year 1841
Marriage date 25 Feb 1841
Parish Great Yarmouth, St Nicholas with St Peter, St John, St Andrew, St James, St Paul & St Luke
Diocese Norwich
Spouse's first name(s) James
Spouse's last name Turrell
Spouse's age Full Age
Spouse's parish Dover Court Row
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Seely
Spouse's father's first name(s) Samuel
Spouse's father's last name Turrell
County Norfolk
Country England
Archive Norfolk Record Office
Archive reference PD 28/77
Page 88
Record set Norfolk Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
© Findmypast

Janet

Janet Report 13 May 2018 16:41

Thanks again for info I see now that there was only Samuel and James.
Ginny

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 16:41

This seems to be the birth of the grandson on the 1871 census. He's illegitimate but who's his mother? The only daughter I can see for James and Elizabeth is Mary Ann Amelia and she's a bit young to be his mother.

TURRELL, JAMES SAMUEL - Order
GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in YARMOUTH NORFOLK Volume 04B Page 15 Order

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 May 2018 16:45

This might be your James Robert's marriage......

??

Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
MILLICAN Mary Ann M Yarmouth 4b 58
TURRELL James Robert Yarmouth 4b 58


James Turrell in the 1891 England Census

Name: James Turrell
Gender: Male
Age: 39
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1852
Spouse: Mary A Turrell
Child: Mary A Turrell
Clara Turrell
James Turrell
Elizabeth Turrell
Florence Turrell
Alice Turrell
Birth Place: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth
Residence Place: Great Yarmouth, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Sub registration district: Yarmouth Southern

Household Members:
Name Age
James Turrell 39 Sail Maker
Mary A Turrell 39
Mary A Turrell 16
Clara Turrell 14
James Turrell 13
Elizabeth Turrell 11
Florence Turrell 7
Alice Turrell 6

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 16:47

Here he is in 1881 living with James and Samuel's sister Mary Ann

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
10, Clarence Road, Gt Yarmouth, Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
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Daniel K Wright Head Married Male 31 1850 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Seaman Ts & Rnr
Mary A E Wright Wife Married Female 26 1855 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England -
Mary A E Wright Daughter Single Female 0 1881 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England -
James S Turrell Nephew Single Male 13 1868 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England -