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James R Turrell

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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 19:35

Apologies, I had missed the daughter Elizabeth on the 1871 census posted earlier.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 19:28


First name(s) Elizabeth Maria
Last name Turrell
Sex Female
Age 27
Birth year 1846
Residence Tower Rd
Marriage year 1873
Marriage date 02 Jan 1873
Parish Great Yarmouth, St Nicholas with St Peter, St John, St Andrew, St James, St Paul & St Luke
Diocese Norwich
Spouse's first name(s) Henry Palgrave
Spouse's last name Westgate
Spouse's age 30
Spouse's parish Tower Rd
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Turrell
Spouse's father's first name(s) Samuel
Spouse's father's last name Westgate
County Norfolk
Country England
Archive Norfolk Record Office
Archive reference PD 28/94
Page 42
Record set Norfolk Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 19:26


TURRELL, ELIZABETH MARIA SEELEY Order
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in GREAT YARMOUTH Volume 13 Page 392 Order

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 19:25

Ah! Here we go. There was another daughter and more likely to be the mother of James Samuel Turrell.


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Coleman Palgraves Walk, Nelson Ward, Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Elizabeth Turrell Head Married Female 31 1820 Fisherman's Wife Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Elizabeth Turrell Daughter - Female 6 1845 - Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 18:56

I think you need to buy James Samuel's birth certificate to find out who his parents are. I still think it's highly unlikely that either James Robert or Samuel will be named on the birth certificate. I doubt any father will be named on it .......only the mother.

Note that neither of the entries below give the name of James Samuel's father.


Record set Norfolk Banns
Sex Male
Archive reference PD 28/186
First name(s) James Samuel
Last name Turrell
Banns year 1889
Marriage year -
Spouse's first name(s) Louisa Maria
Spouse's last name Thomas
Parish Great Yarmouth, St Nicholas with St Peter, St John, St Andrew, St James, St Paul & St Luke
Diocese Norwich
County Norfolk
Country England
Residence Great Yarmouth
First banns date 20 Jan 1889
Spouse's parish Great Yarmouth
Archive Norfolk Record Office
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
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Louisa Maria
Last name Thomas
Sex Female
Age 18
Birth year 1871
Residence 28 N Quay
Marriage year 1889
Marriage date 10 Feb 1889
Parish Great Yarmouth, St Nicholas with St Peter, St John, St Andrew, St James, St Paul & St Luke
Diocese Norwich
Spouse's first name(s) James Samuel
Spouse's last name Turell
Spouse's age 21
Spouse's parish 25 Ordnance rd
Father's first name(s) Henry John
Father's last name Thomas
County Norfolk
Country England
Archive Norfolk Record Office
Archive reference PD 28/103
Page 214
Record set Norfolk Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 May 2018 17:52

TURRELL, ALICE MAUD MMN MILLICAN
GRO Reference: 1885 J Quarter in YARMOUTH NORFOLK Volume 04B Page 3


Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%)
Langley Frederick W Turrell Yarmouth 4b 94
Turrell Alice M Langley Yarmouth 4b 94


Langley Household (2 People)
1 North Road , Great Yarmouth C.B., Norfolk, England

Alice M Langley 29 Jan 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 250 2
Frederick Langley 31 Aug 1877 Male Grocer's Assistant Married 250 1

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 May 2018 17:16

Births Mar 1850 (>99%)
Millican Mary Ann Matilda Gt Yarmouth 13 391


Mary A M Turrell in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Mary A M Turrell
Death Age: 74
Birth Date: abt 1852
Registration Date: Mar 1926
Registration district: Yarmouth
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 7


Mary Ann Matilda Turrell in the England & Scotland, Select Cemetery Registers, 1800-2016
Name: Mary Ann Matilda Turrell (Widow)
Age: 74
Birth Date: abt 1852
Death Date: abt 1926
Death Place: 104 Tower Rd.
Burial Date: 27 Feb 1926
Burial Place: Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Cemetery Section: F.
Grave Number: 676
Interment Number: 5252
Cemetery Notes: Not Consecrated

Janet

Janet Report 13 May 2018 17:09

Hello
I suppose its possible that he could be James or Samuels son
Ginny

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 May 2018 17:06

James R Turrell in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: James R Turrell
Death Age: 68
Birth Date: abt 1852
Registration Date: Mar 1920
Registration district: Yarmouth
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 3

James Robert Turrell in the England & Scotland, Select Cemetery Registers, 1800-2016
Name: James Robert Turrell (Journeyman... Sail Maker)
Age: 68
Birth Date: abt 1852
Death Date: abt 1920
Death Place: 22, Clarence Road
Burial Date: 22 1920
Burial Place: Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Cemetery Section: F.
Grave Number: 676
Interment Number: 3965
Cemetery Notes: Not Consecrated

Janet

Janet Report 13 May 2018 17:00

Hello
If he is classed as a nephew to Mary A wright on 1881 census that points to him being either Samuel,s or James's son!
Ginny

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 16:57

I doubt he's James's child. The birth entry on the GRO index doesn't give a mmn so probably no father named on the birth certificate and if James was the father of a child and not married to the mother, the birth would be registered in the mother's surname unles he was present. If that was the case the mmn would be on the index. When there is no mmn on the index it usually indicates that her mmn is the same as the surname for the child.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 May 2018 16:57

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
22 Clarence Road Great Yarmouth, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Turrell Head Married Male 59 1852 Gt Yarmouth Sail Maker Transcription
Mary Ann Turrell Wife Married Female 59 1852 Gt Yarmouth - Transcription
Alice Turrell Daughter Single Female 26 1885 Gt Yarmouth Dressmaker

Married 38 years........9 children born, 6 living, 3 had died



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
22, Clarence Road, Great Yarmouth, Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

James Turrill Head Married Male 49 1852 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Sail Maker Transcription
Mary A Turrill Wife Married Female 49 1852 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England - Transcription
James Turrill Son Single Male 22 1879 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England House Carpenter Transcription
Elizabeth Turrill Daughter Single Female 21 1880 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Silk Mills Transcription
Florence Turrill Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Dress Maker Transcription
Alice Turrill Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Dress Maker

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 16:53

So the Grandson of James Turrell and Elizabeth Seely married and children and will probably have descendants.


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
82 Medway Road Gillingham Kent, Gillingham, Kent, England

James Samuel Turrell Head Married Male 43 1868 Gt Yarmouth Norfolk Shipwright
Louisa May Turrell Wife Married Female 40 1871 Gt Yarmouth Norfolk Fish Retailer
Florence Ellen Turrell Daughter - Female 13 1898 Gillingham Kent -
Harry Thomas Turrell Son - Male 9 1902 Gillingham Kent School
May Lilian Turrell Daughter - Female 5 1906 Gillingham Kent -
Frank Alan Turrell Son - Male 4 1907 Gillingham Kent -

Janet

Janet Report 13 May 2018 16:51

I wonder if James Turrell born 1868 could possibly be Jame's child!
Ginny

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 May 2018 16:51

James Turrell in the 1881 England Census

Name: James Turrell
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary A. Turrell
Gender: Male
Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: 11 N Clarence Rd
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Sailmaker Journeym
Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub registration district: Yarmouth Southern
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1910
Folio: 110
Page Number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
James Turrell 29
Mary A. Turrell 29
Mary A. Turrell 6
Clara Turrell 4
James Turrell 2
Elizabeth Turrell 1
Jessie E. Turrell

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 16:47

Here he is in 1881 living with James and Samuel's sister Mary Ann

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
10, Clarence Road, Gt Yarmouth, Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
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Daniel K Wright Head Married Male 31 1850 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Seaman Ts & Rnr
Mary A E Wright Wife Married Female 26 1855 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England -
Mary A E Wright Daughter Single Female 0 1881 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England -
James S Turrell Nephew Single Male 13 1868 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England -

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 May 2018 16:45

This might be your James Robert's marriage......

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Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
MILLICAN Mary Ann M Yarmouth 4b 58
TURRELL James Robert Yarmouth 4b 58


James Turrell in the 1891 England Census

Name: James Turrell
Gender: Male
Age: 39
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1852
Spouse: Mary A Turrell
Child: Mary A Turrell
Clara Turrell
James Turrell
Elizabeth Turrell
Florence Turrell
Alice Turrell
Birth Place: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth
Residence Place: Great Yarmouth, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Sub registration district: Yarmouth Southern

Household Members:
Name Age
James Turrell 39 Sail Maker
Mary A Turrell 39
Mary A Turrell 16
Clara Turrell 14
James Turrell 13
Elizabeth Turrell 11
Florence Turrell 7
Alice Turrell 6

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 16:41

This seems to be the birth of the grandson on the 1871 census. He's illegitimate but who's his mother? The only daughter I can see for James and Elizabeth is Mary Ann Amelia and she's a bit young to be his mother.

TURRELL, JAMES SAMUEL - Order
GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in YARMOUTH NORFOLK Volume 04B Page 15 Order

Janet

Janet Report 13 May 2018 16:41

Thanks again for info I see now that there was only Samuel and James.
Ginny

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 May 2018 16:31

Elizabeth
Last name Seely
Sex Female
Age Full Age
Birth year -
Residence Nine Parish Row
Marriage year 1841
Marriage date 25 Feb 1841
Parish Great Yarmouth, St Nicholas with St Peter, St John, St Andrew, St James, St Paul & St Luke
Diocese Norwich
Spouse's first name(s) James
Spouse's last name Turrell
Spouse's age Full Age
Spouse's parish Dover Court Row
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Seely
Spouse's father's first name(s) Samuel
Spouse's father's last name Turrell
County Norfolk
Country England
Archive Norfolk Record Office
Archive reference PD 28/77
Page 88
Record set Norfolk Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
© Findmypast