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Dawn

Dawn Report 9 Jun 2016 13:04


I have been asked by a family member to help with their familytree as they have hit a brick wall, I have been helping but I have also hit the same brick wall and would like anther pair of eyes please.
I have a Henry Sidney Stanton born (c)1888 in Barnetby Le Wold in Lincolnshire, found him age 23 in 1911 as a boarder with his future wife Olive Louisa Palmer and her family in Gainsborough Lincolnshire. They were married in 1911 in Gainsborough. His father is given as Joseph Stanton, deceased railway inspector on the marriage certificate. I cannot find Henry Stanton in 1901 or earlier, or even a birth reg for him and its this I would like help on please.

greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Jun 2016 13:15

For our info

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4 Willoughby St Gainsboro, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Ellen Palmer Head Widow Female General Shop Keeper Off Bar License 44 1867 Elksley Notts
Olive Louisa Palmer Daughter Single Female - 23 1888 Cainsborough
Fredrick Arthur Palmer Son Single Male - 21 1890 Cainsborough
Alice Maud Palmer Daughter Single Female - 19 1892 Cainsborough
Florence Eveline Palmer Daughter Single Female - 16 1895 Cainsborough
Gladys Mary Palmer Daughter Single Female - 13 1898 Cainsborough
Lillian Lucy Palmer Daughter Single Female School 12 1899 Cainsborough
Henry Sidney Stanton Boarder Single Male Joiner 23 1888 Barnetby Le Wold
Richard Gordon Guest Boarder Single Male Moulders Labourer 24 1887 Liverpool Lancs n
Lionel William Knighton Boarder Single Male Iron Turner 22 1889 Marty Tydvil
Arthur Pallard Boarder Single Male Blacksmiths Labourer 33 1878 Lancs Manchester
William Burgess Boarder Single Male Engine Tenter 29 1882 Devon Plumouth

greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Jun 2016 13:24

Barnetby le Wold is covered by the Glanford Brigg RD but not seeing a birth there.

Could he have taken on a step father's name or moved as a youngster to Barnetby and presumed that was where he was born for example?

greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Jun 2016 13:27

Where did he die and at what recorded age?

Is this Olive's death?

First name(s) OLIVE L
Last name STANTON
Gender Female
Birth year 1888
Age 77
Death quarter 4
Death year 1965
District GAINSBOROUGH
County Lincolnshire
Volume 3B
Page 186

Maddie

Maddie Report 9 Jun 2016 13:33

1939 but he is not there


1939 Register Transcription

Stanton Household (2 People) 6 Spital Terrace , Gainsborough U.D., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Olive L Stanton 28 Feb 1888 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 152 1
Arthur S Stanton 09 Jun 1917 Male Engineer Turner Single 152 2

John E Stanton 13 Jul 1914 Male Engineer Centre Lath Miner Heavy Worker Married 153 1
Shirley A Smith (Stanton) 20 Sep 1936 Female Under School Age Single 153 3

there is one closed record

safc

safc Report 9 Jun 2016 13:35

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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Thrunscoe, Cleethorpes, Caistor, Lincolnshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Stenton Head Married Male 28 1863 Railway Booking Clerk -
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Sarah J Stenton Wife Married Female 27 1864 - Barnsley
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Samuel Stenton Son - Male 3 1888 - Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England
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Ewart Stenton Son - Male 0 1891 - Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Jun 2016 13:35

One tree on Ancestry names him and olive with a child Harry b 1920. His Father is listed as Joseph, mother unknown. Apart from giving his birth year as 1889, his address and occupation of joiner citing the 1911 census there is no other info on him.

safc

safc Report 9 Jun 2016 13:37

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hemsworth G N R Station, Hemsworth, Yorkshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Stenton Head Married Male 38 1863 Railway Station Master Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
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Sarah Jane Stenton Wife Married Female 37 1864 - Yorkshire, England
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Samuel Stenton Son - Male 12 1889 - Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England
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Ewart Stenton Son - Male 10 1891 - Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England
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Geo Ernest Stenton Son - Male 8 1893 - Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England
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Joseph Stenton Son - Male 7 1894 - Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England
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Frank Stenton Son - Male 3 1898 - Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
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Herbert Stenton Son - Male 0 1901 - Woodford Halse, Hampshire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Jun 2016 13:51

The Stenton marriage and birth of Samuel (Caistor covers Cleethorpes). There might just have been enough time to have another child between marriage and Samuel's birth depending on real time dates,
OR Henry was a bit older and a child of Sarah Jane
Or Stenton is a red herring but seems too good a match with Father's occupation.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%)
STENTON Joseph Sheffield 9c 665


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
Stenton Samuel Caistor 7a 643

safc

safc Report 9 Jun 2016 13:54


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
106 Bentley St Cleethorpes, Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Joseph Stenton Head Married Male Retired Station Master 48 1863 Yorkshire Sheffield
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Sarah Jane Stenton Wife Married Female - 47 1864 Yorkshire Elsecar
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George Stenton Father Widower Male Old Age Pensioner 78 1833 Yorkshire Wales
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Ewart Stenton Son Single Male Shunter 20 1891 Lincolnshire Cleethorpes
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George Ernest Stenton Son Single Male Labourer Electric 18 1893 Lincolnshire Cleethorpes
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Joseph Stenton Son Single Male Telephone Attendant 17 1894 Lincolnshire Cleethorpes
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Frank Stenton Son Single Male At School 13 1898 Cheshire Upton Bhead
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Herbert Stenton Son Single Male At School 10 1901 Northants Woodford Halse
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Bessie Stenton Daughter Single Female At School 7 1904 Yorkshire Hemsworth
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Dorothea Stenton Daughter Single Female At School 5 1906 Yorkshire Hemsworth


married 23 years 9 children born 8 living

Dawn

Dawn Report 9 Jun 2016 13:54

Thanks for all your help. I have found him on the 1911 census but that is the only one I can find. The family he is boarding with in 1911 are his future in laws as he married Oliver Palmer on 17 April 1911. I'm thinking that Joseph Stanton may not be his biological father but may have been the man who brought him up, hence taking the name Stanton.
Yes greyghost, that is his wife Olives death reg. The story goes that Henry Stanton disappeared from his family around 1924ish never to be seen or heard from again. I have no idea if he had any siblings, or when he died or even if he remarried at all. That's where I'm hoping you lovely lot can help cause I'm totally baffled xx :-D

greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Jun 2016 13:58

Possibly Joseph Stenton's death, so still alive when Henry STANTON married.

1911 census has Joseph and family in Cleethorpes which by now is in the Grimsby RD

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) JOSEPH
Last name STENTON
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1863
Age 64
Death quarter 2
Death year 1927
District GRIMSBY
County Lincolnshire
Volume 7A
Page 662
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National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription

First name(s) JOSEPH
Last name STENTON
Birth year 1863
Death year 1927
Age 64
Burial year 1927
Burial day 23
Burial month 5
Place CLEETHORPES
Church description CEMETERY
Church denomination CEMETERY
County Lincolnshire

Dawn

Dawn Report 9 Jun 2016 13:58

According to Henry and Olives marriage certificate, Joseph Stanton, Henrys father is written down as railway inspector, deceased.

greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Jun 2016 14:05

Yes, just trying to show that the STENTON family suggested as a possible was unlikely as that Joseph was still alive when Henry married. Railway job a coincidence?

Dawn

Dawn Report 9 Jun 2016 14:11

Thanks for help greyghost. This is a hard one, its like Henry Stanton in 1911 just appeared from no where. Not sure where to go now to be honest with it. :-(

greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Jun 2016 14:18

Son Harry probably married in 1943 in Gainsborough RD and there are 3 births showing that are probably to that marriage. Maybe you can chase them forward to see if anyone has any further information or is that where your request for help has come from?

There are also probable siblings to Harry.

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Jun 2016 14:23

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Main Street Baston, Baston, Bourn, Lincolnshire, England


Joseph Stanton Head Married Male 40 1861 Engine Driver Baston, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Mary Stanton Wife Married Female 38 1863 - Stamford, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Daniel Stanton Son - Male 13 1888 Agricultural Labourer Baston, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Emma Stanton Daughter - Female 12 1889 - Baston, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Catherine Stanton Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Baston, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Joseph Stanton Son - Male 5 1896 - Baston, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
William Stanton Son - Male 3 1898 - Baston, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Charlotte Stanton Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Baston, Lincolnshire, England

Not seeing Joseph in 1911?

Maddie

Maddie Report 9 Jun 2016 14:28

JOSEPH
Last name STANTON
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1861
Age 50
Death quarter 1
Death year 1911
District BOURNE
County Lincolnshire
Volume 7A
Page 224
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Jun 2016 14:31

Looking at that death too Maddie, but the marriage was June Qtr when Joseph was already declared as dead, but stranger things have happened

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
Stanton Henry S Gainsbro 7a 1997

EDIT - how about this one? Alternative spelling for Bourne

Mar 1911
Stanton Joseph 50 Bourn 7a 224

Dawn

Dawn Report 9 Jun 2016 14:40

Hi Maddie, thanks for all your help. Yes that is the family that the request has come from they are as stuck as me unfortunately. I did see the 1901 entry but because Henry wasn't on it I dismissed it, its a good match for Josephs occupation certainly. Henry would have been about 13 in 1901 so possibly still at home. Henrys place of birth in 1911 was given as Barnetby, is that near Bourne do you think, as I see Joseph above died in Bourne?