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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawfiler
A saw filer or saw doctor is a person who maintains and repairs saws in a saw mill. A saw filer's .... Industrial occupations · Saws · Metalworking occupations

From one of the lists of old occupations - just google old occupations there are several sites

http://www.worldthroughthelens.com/family-history/old-occupations.php
A Saw Doctor made, repaired, maintained and sharpened a wide range of cutting tool and saw blades and also made and aligned mechanical parts of a range of production machines

Henry was a joiner in 1911, so could the occupation in 1939 above be some form of joinery...or is that just wishful thinking??

i saw this one but dob out by 2 years


1939 Register Transcription

Stanton Household (2 People) 6 Grenville Road , Beeston and Stapleford U.D., Nottinghamshire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Henry S Stanton 31 May 1891 Male Saw Doctor & Tool Sharpener Married 35 1
Margaret M Simister (Stanton) 19 Jul 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 35 2

If you have no idea when he died then who's to say he was alive in 1939 under his own or any other name or even in the country. I know it says Olive is married but that may have been to save face,or a genuine she didn't know he was dead, so presumed still alive and therefore married. ??

His death could have been registered wherever by someone who didn't know his full name, age or whatever.

I can see 2 Henry S Stanton deaths b 1884 d 1958 and b 1890 d 1968 but no corresponding births for e.g..

You would think heat Henry Stanton could be found on the 1939 register on FMP but theres nothing xx

Joseph and family 1891 - no Henry

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Main Street, Baston, Bourn, Lincolnshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Stanton Head Married Male 30 1861 Thrashine Engine Driver Baston, Lincolnshire, England
Mary Stanton Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Stanford, Lincolnshire, England
Daniel Stanton Son Single Male 3 1888 - Baston, Lincolnshire, England
Emma Stanton Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - Baston, Lincolnshire, England
John Stanton Son Single Male 0 1891 - Baston, Lincolnshire, England

Barnetby to Baston (Bourne RD) is over 80 miles apart - just google

And I wonder if Thrashing Engine should be Threshing Engine

If I or you can find the above Joseph Stanton on a census with Henry Stanton his son that would defo make me believe its the right family, hopefully a step closer xx

Hi Maddie, thanks for all your help. Yes that is the family that the request has come from they are as stuck as me unfortunately. I did see the 1901 entry but because Henry wasn't on it I dismissed it, its a good match for Josephs occupation certainly. Henry would have been about 13 in 1901 so possibly still at home. Henrys place of birth in 1911 was given as Barnetby, is that near Bourne do you think, as I see Joseph above died in Bourne?

Looking at that death too Maddie, but the marriage was June Qtr when Joseph was already declared as dead, but stranger things have happened

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
Stanton Henry S Gainsbro 7a 1997

EDIT - how about this one? Alternative spelling for Bourne

Mar 1911
Stanton Joseph 50 Bourn 7a 224

JOSEPH
Last name STANTON
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1861
Age 50
Death quarter 1
Death year 1911
District BOURNE
County Lincolnshire
Volume 7A
Page 224
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Main Street Baston, Baston, Bourn, Lincolnshire, England


Joseph Stanton Head Married Male 40 1861 Engine Driver Baston, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Mary Stanton Wife Married Female 38 1863 - Stamford, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Daniel Stanton Son - Male 13 1888 Agricultural Labourer Baston, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Emma Stanton Daughter - Female 12 1889 - Baston, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Catherine Stanton Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Baston, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Joseph Stanton Son - Male 5 1896 - Baston, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
William Stanton Son - Male 3 1898 - Baston, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Charlotte Stanton Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Baston, Lincolnshire, England

Not seeing Joseph in 1911?

Son Harry probably married in 1943 in Gainsborough RD and there are 3 births showing that are probably to that marriage. Maybe you can chase them forward to see if anyone has any further information or is that where your request for help has come from?

There are also probable siblings to Harry.

Thanks for help greyghost. This is a hard one, its like Henry Stanton in 1911 just appeared from no where. Not sure where to go now to be honest with it. :-(

Yes, just trying to show that the STENTON family suggested as a possible was unlikely as that Joseph was still alive when Henry married. Railway job a coincidence?

According to Henry and Olives marriage certificate, Joseph Stanton, Henrys father is written down as railway inspector, deceased.

Possibly Joseph Stenton's death, so still alive when Henry STANTON married.

1911 census has Joseph and family in Cleethorpes which by now is in the Grimsby RD

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) JOSEPH
Last name STENTON
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1863
Age 64
Death quarter 2
Death year 1927
District GRIMSBY
County Lincolnshire
Volume 7A
Page 662
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National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription

First name(s) JOSEPH
Last name STENTON
Birth year 1863
Death year 1927
Age 64
Burial year 1927
Burial day 23
Burial month 5
Place CLEETHORPES
Church description CEMETERY
Church denomination CEMETERY
County Lincolnshire

Thanks for all your help. I have found him on the 1911 census but that is the only one I can find. The family he is boarding with in 1911 are his future in laws as he married Oliver Palmer on 17 April 1911. I'm thinking that Joseph Stanton may not be his biological father but may have been the man who brought him up, hence taking the name Stanton.
Yes greyghost, that is his wife Olives death reg. The story goes that Henry Stanton disappeared from his family around 1924ish never to be seen or heard from again. I have no idea if he had any siblings, or when he died or even if he remarried at all. That's where I'm hoping you lovely lot can help cause I'm totally baffled xx :-D

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
106 Bentley St Cleethorpes, Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Joseph Stenton Head Married Male Retired Station Master 48 1863 Yorkshire Sheffield
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Sarah Jane Stenton Wife Married Female - 47 1864 Yorkshire Elsecar
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George Stenton Father Widower Male Old Age Pensioner 78 1833 Yorkshire Wales
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Ewart Stenton Son Single Male Shunter 20 1891 Lincolnshire Cleethorpes
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George Ernest Stenton Son Single Male Labourer Electric 18 1893 Lincolnshire Cleethorpes
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Joseph Stenton Son Single Male Telephone Attendant 17 1894 Lincolnshire Cleethorpes
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Frank Stenton Son Single Male At School 13 1898 Cheshire Upton Bhead
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Herbert Stenton Son Single Male At School 10 1901 Northants Woodford Halse
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Bessie Stenton Daughter Single Female At School 7 1904 Yorkshire Hemsworth
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Dorothea Stenton Daughter Single Female At School 5 1906 Yorkshire Hemsworth


married 23 years 9 children born 8 living

The Stenton marriage and birth of Samuel (Caistor covers Cleethorpes). There might just have been enough time to have another child between marriage and Samuel's birth depending on real time dates,
OR Henry was a bit older and a child of Sarah Jane
Or Stenton is a red herring but seems too good a match with Father's occupation.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%)
STENTON Joseph Sheffield 9c 665


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
Stenton Samuel Caistor 7a 643

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hemsworth G N R Station, Hemsworth, Yorkshire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Stenton Head Married Male 38 1863 Railway Station Master Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
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Sarah Jane Stenton Wife Married Female 37 1864 - Yorkshire, England
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Samuel Stenton Son - Male 12 1889 - Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England
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Ewart Stenton Son - Male 10 1891 - Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England
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Geo Ernest Stenton Son - Male 8 1893 - Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England
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Joseph Stenton Son - Male 7 1894 - Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England
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Frank Stenton Son - Male 3 1898 - Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
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Herbert Stenton Son - Male 0 1901 - Woodford Halse, Hampshire, England