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Hilary

Hilary Report 18 Apr 2016 15:15

Could someone look up Sarah Farby on 1841 census. She was born 1830/31 in Sutton Cambs. I know from her marriage her father was William Farby. Found this info plus she is on 51 census on Family Search records.I realise there is probably several ways the name Farby was spelt. Done a search but I can't find her.
Thanks.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 18 Apr 2016 15:51

1851 for our info since you have seen it but we have not

unfortunately not with family

ame: Sarah Farby
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: Sutton
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Registration district: Ely

visiting Randal family

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 18 Apr 2016 15:53

this is the couple she is visiting ... I suspect Mary was a sister

Marriages Sep 1847
FABER Mary Ely 14 103
Randell Allen Ely 14 103


but not seeing either Sarah or Mary in 1841 ...

mistranscription is almost a certainty, plus having two possible spelings already (Farby, Faber), but no luck with various wildcards, or just looking through Sarahs and Marys for possible candidates

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Apr 2016 16:04

County Cambridgeshire
Place Chatteris
Church name St Peter
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 46
Marriage date 16 May 1852
Groom forename William
Groom surname JARMAN
Groom age 24
Groom condition bachelor
Groom abode Chatteris
Groom occupation Labourer
Bride forename Sarah
Bride surname FARBY
Bride age 22
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Chatteris
Groom father forename Robert
Groom father surname JARMAN
Groom father occupation Blacksmith
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname FARBY
Bride father occupation Labourer
Witness1 forename John
Witness1 surname NOBLE
Witness2 forename Robert
Witness2 surname MARTIN
Notes Bride illiterate

(would that be anything to do with above perhaps?)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(from above link)

Chris :)


Subject FARBY Mary
Year 1825 Relationship d. of William & Anne

https://www.cfhs.org.uk/searchsd.cfm

(Cambridgeshire Baptisms/Burials 1801/1837)


(relating?)

Burial
County Cambridgeshire
Place Sutton
Church name St Andrew
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 424
Burial date 10 Feb 1831
Person age 52
Burial person forename William
Burial person surname FARBY
Burial person abode Sutton Galt
Notes Note at the bottom of the page: This man was found drowned and an inquest holden February 9th 1831

Hilary

Hilary Report 18 Apr 2016 16:06

Hi all, yes they are all her. So many ways of spelling Farby.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 18 Apr 2016 16:09

familysearch transcribes this household as Farlin
(deleted, seems not relevant)
I would guess Foster ...


what was William's occupation on Sarah's marriage certificate?
edit - Chris has it, labourer

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 Apr 2016 16:13

is this her family

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Gault, Sutton, Ely, Cambridgeshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Farby Head Married Male 47 1804 Ag Laborer Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England
Transcription
Mary Farby Wife Married Female 36 1815 Wife Pidley, Huntingdonshire, England
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Joseph Farby Son Unmarried Male 22 1829 Ag Laborer Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England
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William Farby Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 Ag Laborer Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England
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John Farby Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 - Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England
Transcription
Susan Farby Daughter Unmarried Female 9 1842 - Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England
Transcription
Thomas Farby Son Unmarried Male 13 1838 Ag Lab Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England
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Richard Farby Son Unmarried Male 7 1844 - Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England
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Job Farby Son Unmarried Male 5 1846 - Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England
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Henry Farby Son Unmarried Male 1 1850 - Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England
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Census details
First name(s) William
Last name Farby
Relationship Son
Marital status Unmarried
Gender Male
Age 18
Birth year 1833
Occupation Ag Laborer
Birth place England
Birth town Sutton
Birth town as transcribed Sutton
Birth county Cambridgeshire
Birth county as transcribed Cambridgeshire
House name Gault
Street -
Town -
Parish Sutton
City -
County Cambridgeshire
Hamlet Sutton
Parliamentary borough Ely
Municipal ward -
Registration district Ely
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1764
Folio 233
Page 12
Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Apr 2016 16:14

http://www.bradshaw32.plus.com/family/00045017.htm

(above from google search on family)

Chris :)

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 Apr 2016 16:20


Name William Farby
Gender Male
Christening Date 31 Jul 1803
Christening Place SUTTON, CAMBRIDGE, ENGLAND
Father's Name William Farby
Mother's Name Elizabeth
Citing this Record

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQFM-SMG : accessed 18 April 2016), William Farby, 31 Jul 1803; citing SUTTON, CAMBRIDGE, ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 1,040,549.

?????????

William Farbey
mentioned in the record of William Farbey and Mary Stoten
Name William Farbey
Spouse's Name Mary Stoten
Event Date 1836
Event Place Sutton, Cambridge, England
Citing this Record

"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6QJ-PJ5 : accessed 18 April 2016), William Farbey and Mary Stoten, 1836; citing Sutton, Cambridge, England, reference 2:3DP6PMG; FHL microfilm 1,040,549.

1841

Joseph Farbay
England and Wales Census, 1841
Name Joseph Farbay
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England
Residence Note Gault Pit House
Gender Male
Age 12
Age (Original) 12
Birth Year (Estimated) 1829
Birthplace Cambridgeshire
Registration District Ely
Book Number 15
Parish Sutton
County Cambridgeshire
Page Number 3
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 83/4
Affiliate Record Type Household
Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace
Mary Farbay F 25-29 Cambridgeshire
Mary Farbay F 15-19 Cambridgeshire
Joseph Farbay M 12 Cambridgeshire
Thomas Farbay M 3 Cambridgeshire
John Farbay M 1 Cambridgeshire
Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1841," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQRF-7Q1 : accessed 18 April 2016), Joseph Farbay in household of Mary Farbay, Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England; from "1841 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO HO 107, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Apr 2016 16:23

1841 (Find My Past)
Mary Farbay Female 25 1816 Cambridgeshire, England
Mary Farbay Female 15 1826 Cambridgeshire, England
Joseph Farbay Male 12 1829 Cambridgeshire, England
Thomas Farbay Male 3 1838 Cambridgeshire, England
John Farbay Male 1 1840 Cambridgeshire, England
Street Gault Pit House
Parish or township Sutton
County Cambridgeshire
Registration district Ely
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 83
Book number 15
Folio number 4
Page number 3

(relates as William Marriage to Mary Stoten 1836, from link posted earlier)

Chris :)

http://www.bradshaw32.plus.com/family/00045017.htm

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 18 Apr 2016 16:27

Ancestry lists one 1841 household thus

County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Registration district: Ely
Sub-registration district: Sutton

William Forbay 4 >> obviously not since he is head of household and an ag lab
William Forbay 9
Mary Forbay 25
Mary Forbay 15
Joseph Farbay 12
Thomas Farbay 3
John Farbay 1

I read it as Farbay/Farbey

there is no Sarah present but there is a large gap between Joseph and Thomas

could have been a Sarah who was staying with other family


guys do we have to have all the extraneous info copied from census records about sources and all, that just clutters things up?

Hilary

Hilary Report 18 Apr 2016 16:30

Just had another look on Free Reg & it looks likely Sarah's parents were William & Ann, also looks like there are another 2 children to this couple. Mary Farby born 1825 Sutton, could be the Mary Faber from above, & Thomas Farby born 1827 Sutton.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 18 Apr 2016 16:33

Mary, the 1825 birth to William and Ann, will be the Mary Faber who married Allen Randell, whom our Sarah is visiting in 1851

maybe you could confirm that Hilary? - that the 1851 Mary Randal is Sarah's sister?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Apr 2016 16:38

County Cambridgeshire
Place Sutton
Church name St Andrew
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 132
Marriage date 22 Aug 1847
Groom forename Allen
Groom surname RANDELL
Groom age full age
Groom condition bachelor
Groom abode Sutton
Groom occupation Labour
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname FABER
Bride age full age
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Sutton
Groom father forename Robert
Groom father surname RANDELL
Groom father occupation Labour
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname FABER
Bride father occupation Labour
Witness1 forename Richard
Witness1 surname CADSON
Witness2 forename Ann
Witness2 surname CLARKE

(that's as above)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 18 Apr 2016 16:41

yes, the marriage I posted up at the top - thanks, confirms she was a sister it seems

William could have remarried to a Mary ...

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Apr 2016 16:44

yes, 1836 according to link, bradshaw)

Chris :)

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 18 Apr 2016 16:46

ah yes

and

County Cambridgeshire
Place Mepal
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 178
Burial date 23 Apr 1834
Person age 32
Burial person forename Anne
Burial person surname FARBY
Burial person abode Mepal

which is in Sutton


edit - I see the edit :-)

Hilary

Hilary Report 18 Apr 2016 16:51

Hi Joonie, in answer to your question I do think both Mary's are the same. I edited it in my post.So much info to digest.

Hilary

Hilary Report 18 Apr 2016 18:51

Thankyou all very much everybody, would have been nice to have found Sarah on 1841 census to see all her family but think I have enough info now to work it all out. You lot are amazing.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Apr 2016 19:34

(below snippet probably relates!)

Chris :)

23 November 1850 - Cambridge Independent Press - Cambridge, Cambridgeshire

ISLE OF ELY
Witcham
The Late Fire - The servant girl Sarah Farby, who has been several times brought before the Magistrates, and remanded by them for further examination, on suspicion of setting fire to M. Poole's premises, was again on Thursday last brought before the Magistrate's, and for want of sufficient evidence against her, she was discharged.