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Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 14 Apr 2016 19:29

Mary Martin update-- I now have the Marriage Certificate
Married on 6th April 1889 entry No 125
William Fox age 65 Widower Blacksmith
Mary Martin age 36 - the condition and profession are both blank.
In a margin on the right hand side is written the following.
In entry No 125 after the Woman' s name head "Widow" corrected on the 15th January 1980, by me Charles Lee Cartwright registrar in the presence of R Jones superintendent registrar
Can anyone make any sense of this as I bought the cert to try and find out if she was divorced as at this time it was very rare. even more confused now

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 14 Mar 2016 13:29

1901 And 1911 Census with Charles Parker are both correct.
The William Fox death is correct. think I will buy the marriage cert for her marriage to William and see if she is a widow no firm fact but might be interesting.
On my Grandfather's birth cert it say's mother late Fox , previously Martin, formally Phillips. Which brings me to thinking she may have divorced Ellis.

safc

safc Report 14 Mar 2016 12:42


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Stockton Malpas Cheshire, Stockton, Shropshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Charles Parker Head Married Male Farm Labourer 53 1858 Cheshire Malpas
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Mary Parker Wife Married Female - 54 1857 Flintshire Hanmer
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Charles Henry Parker Son Single Male Waggoner On Farm 25 1886 Cheshire Malpas
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John Edwin Parker Son Single Male Farm Labourer 24 1887 Cheshire Malpas
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Ruth Parker Daughter - Female School 13 1898 Cheshire Malpas
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George Parker Son - Male School 11 1900 Cheshire Malpas

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Mar 2016 12:40

A tree on ancestry has a marriage for Ellis Martin and Eliza Davies in Ellesmere Port, April 1874. It is not substantiated.

He married Mary in 1874 so this tree seems to be wildly inaccurate.

I can't find a marriage for them.

safc

safc Report 14 Mar 2016 12:33


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hockton Hall, Stockton, Stockton (Cheshire), Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Parker Head Married Male 43 1858 Agricultural Labourer Malpas, Cheshire, England
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Mary Parker Wife Married Female 44 1857 - Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales
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John Parker Son - Male 14 1887 Bakers Assistant Malpas, Cheshire, England
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Joseph Parker Son - Male 10 1891 - Malpas, Cheshire, England
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Ruth Parker Daughter - Female 3 1898 - Malpas, Cheshire, England
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George Parker Son - Male 1 1900 - Malpas, Cheshire, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Mar 2016 12:32


National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription
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First name(s) Alice
Last name Martin
Birth year 1887
Birth date 25 Oct 1887
Event year 1891
School name Leycett Church Of England School (Jmi)
Town Leycett
County Staffordshire
Country England
Parent name(s) Ellis
Book type Admissions

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Mar 2016 12:26

Ellis in 1901. He dies in 1904.


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
12, Crown Street, Silverdale, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ellis Martin Head Married Male 52 1849 Coal Miner Overman Oldbury, Staffordshire, England
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Eliza Martin Wife Married Female 50 1851 Housework -
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John Martin Son Single Male 16 1885 Coal Miner Driver Silverdale, Staffordshire, England
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Elizabeth A Martin Daughter Single Female 15 1886 Machinist Colliery Factory Leycett, Staffordshire, England
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Alice Martin Daughter - Female 13 1888 School Leycett, Staffordshire, England
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Emily Martin Daughter - Female 11 1890 School Leycett, Staffordshire, England
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Thomas Davies Boarder Single Male 37 1864 Coal Miner Hewer Staffordshire, England


and 1911. Eliza is Married?



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
29 Albert St Silverdale Staffordshire, Silverdale, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Eliza Martin Wife Married Female At Home 59 1852 Wolverhampton Staffs
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Elizabeth Ann Martin Daughter Single Female Dipper 25 1886 Silverdale Staffs
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Alice Martin Daughter Single Female Ware Cleaner 23 1888 Leycett Staffs
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Thomas Davies Brother Single Male Miner Formerly Cripple 56 1855 Rounds Green Oldbury
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John Walklate Boarder Single Male Miner Loader 21 1890 Silverdale Staffs

EDIT The image reads widow for Eliza. She would have been married 29 years, had had 9 children, 4 still living.
There's John, 26 and Emily, 21 both crossed out.

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Mar 2016 12:19

OK I take it this is them with Emily so it certainly does seem to be the same person.



1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Oldcastle, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Fox Head Married Male 68 1823 Agricultural Labourer Malpas, Cheshire, England
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Mary Fox Wife Married Female 38 1853 - Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales
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Emily Montin Stepdaughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England

SNAP Safc!!

safc

safc Report 14 Mar 2016 12:18

Deaths Jun 1895 (>99%)
Fox William 71 Whitchurch, S. 6a 481

safc

safc Report 14 Mar 2016 12:17


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Oldcastle, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Fox Head Married Male 68 1823 Agricultural Labourer Malpas, Cheshire, England
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Mary Fox Wife Married Female 38 1853 - Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales
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Emily Montin Stepdaughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Mar 2016 12:15

This is the marriage for reference. Are you certain this is your Mary? Do you have the certificate?


England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
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First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name FOX
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1889
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ WILLIAM FOX married one of these people
MARY ELLEN GREATBANKS, MARY MARTIN
District WHITCHURCH (SHROPSHIRE)
District number -
County Shropshire
Country England
Volume 6A
Page 1439

EDIT It would be interesting to know how Mary describes herself.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 14 Mar 2016 11:34

wonderful safc, I need to digest all this now. One part I don't understand is she re-married a William Fox in 1889. Is this bigamy or divorce as I believe Divorce was very uncommon at this time

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 23:50


Flint Baptisms Transcription
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First name(s) ELENOR
Last name MARTIN
Birth year 1874
Birth day -
Birth month -
Baptism year 1874
Baptism day 17
Baptism month May
Place HANMER
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Father's first name(s) Ellis
County Flintshire
Country Wales
Record set Flint Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 23:47


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Scott Hay, Madeley, Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ellis Martin Head Married Female 42 1849 Coal Miner Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
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Eliza Martin Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
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Elinor Martin Daughter Single Female 16 1875 Mothers Help Flintshire, Wales
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Henry Martin Son Single Male 14 1877 Coal Miner Prestwich, Lancashire, England
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John Martin Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Silverdale, Staffordshire, England
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Elizabeth Martin Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Silverdale, Staffordshire, England
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Alice Martin Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Leycett, Staffordshire, England
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Emily Martin Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Leycett, Staffordshire, England
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Thomas Davis Lodger Single Male 38 1853 Coal Miner Oldbury, Staffordshire, England

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 23:25


England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) ELLIS
Last name MARTIN
Gender Unknown
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1849
Age 55
Death quarter 3
Death year 1904
District WOLSTANTON
County Staffordshire
Volume 6B
Page 52
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 23:19


Flint Baptisms Transcription
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First name(s) BEATRICE
Last name PHILLIPS
Birth year 1872
Birth day -
Birth month -
Baptism year 1872
Baptism day 02
Baptism month Jan
Place HANMER
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Father's first name(s) -
County Flintshire
Country Wales
Record set Flint Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 23:17


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wrexham Road, Tybroughton (Flint), Ellesmere, Shropshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elizabeth Phillips Head Widow Female 55 1826 Occupier Of Land -
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John Phillips Son Single Male 17 1864 ((No Oc)) Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales
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Beatrice Phillips Grand Daughter Single Female 9 1872 - Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales
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Emily Martin Grand Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Lancashire, England

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 23:16


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Little Green, Little, Tybroughton, Ellesmere, Shropshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Phillips Head - Male 44 1827 - Flintshire, Wales
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Elizebeth Phillips Wife - Female 46 1825 - Shropshire, England
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Mary Phillips Daughter - Female 14 1857 - Flintshire, Wales
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Richard Phillips Son - Male 10 1861 - Flintshire, Wales
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John Phillips Son - Male 7 1864 - Flintshire, Wales
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Anne Phillips Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Flintshire, Wales

alviegal

alviegal Report 13 Mar 2016 23:13

Their banns.


Flint Banns Transcription

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First name(s) ELLIS
Last name MARTIN
Banns year 1874
Banns day 29
Banns month Mar
Marriage year 1874
Marriage day -
Marriage month -
Place HANMER
Spouse's first name(s) MARY
Spouse's last name PHILLIPS
Bride's parish Hanmer
Groom's parish Ellesmere
County Flintshire

alviegal

alviegal Report 13 Mar 2016 23:06


Flint Baptisms Transcription
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First name(s) EMILY
Last name MARTIN
Birth year 1881
Birth day -
Birth month -
Baptism year 1881
Baptism day 12
Baptism month Feb
Place HANMER
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Father's first name(s) Ellis
County Flintshire
Country Wales

Written faintly is 18 months old. Her father was a pitman and the Abode was Ratcliffe, Lancashire.

This all seems to tie in with above birth.