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Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 13 Mar 2016 22:06

Mary Phillips born 1857 in Flintshire. Married someone called Martin , christian name unknown. after his death she Married William Fox in 1889, when William died she married Charles Parker in 1896. From the Martin marriage she had a daughter Emily born 1880 who was living with Mary's mother on the 1881 census and Mary herself was classed as a married live in servant at another address. problem is I can not find her marriage to the Martin.

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 22:18

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Name: Ellis Martin
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Apr 1874
Event Place: Bronington, Flintshire, Wales
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Spouse's Name: Mary Phillips
GS Film Number:
Digital Folder Number: 004339740



Citing this Record:
"Wales, Flintshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCR8-3LT : accessed 13 March 2016), Ellis Martin and Mary Phillips, 13 Apr 1874, Marriage; from "Parish Records Collection 1538-2005," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Bronington, Flintshire, Wales, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 22:21

Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)
Green Ann Ellesmere 6a 1397
Martin Ellis Ellesmere 6a 1397
PHILLIPS Mary Ellesmere 6a 1397
ROBERTS William Ellesmere 6a 1397

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 22:31

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1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
26, Edward Street, Pilkington, Bury, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Sarah Riley Head Widow Female 64 1817 Cotton Loom Weaver Radcliffe, Lancashire, England
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Mark Blackley Boarder Single Male 19 1862 Cotton Crofter Lancashire, England
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Ellis Martin Lodger Head Married Male 33 1848 Pit Sinker (Well) Shropshire, England
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Harry Martin Lodger Son Single Male 4 1877 Scholar Lancashire, England
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Richard Hamer Lodger Head Married Male 66 1815 Pit Sinker (Well) Wales
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Hannah Hamer Wife Married Female 55 1826 - Montgomeryshire, Wales

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 22:34

Baptism: 27 May 1877 St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich, Lancashire, England
Henry Martin - [Child] of Ellis Martin & Mary
Abode: Prestwich
Occupation: Sinker
Baptised by: J. H. Street Curate
Register: Baptisms 1864 - 1891, Page 261, Entry 2087
Source: LDS Film 2356183

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 22:48

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Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1879
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MARTIN Emily Pilkington Bury PHILLIPS PILK/37/91

alviegal

alviegal Report 13 Mar 2016 23:06


Flint Baptisms Transcription
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First name(s) EMILY
Last name MARTIN
Birth year 1881
Birth day -
Birth month -
Baptism year 1881
Baptism day 12
Baptism month Feb
Place HANMER
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Father's first name(s) Ellis
County Flintshire
Country Wales

Written faintly is 18 months old. Her father was a pitman and the Abode was Ratcliffe, Lancashire.

This all seems to tie in with above birth.

alviegal

alviegal Report 13 Mar 2016 23:13

Their banns.


Flint Banns Transcription

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First name(s) ELLIS
Last name MARTIN
Banns year 1874
Banns day 29
Banns month Mar
Marriage year 1874
Marriage day -
Marriage month -
Place HANMER
Spouse's first name(s) MARY
Spouse's last name PHILLIPS
Bride's parish Hanmer
Groom's parish Ellesmere
County Flintshire

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 23:16


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Little Green, Little, Tybroughton, Ellesmere, Shropshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Phillips Head - Male 44 1827 - Flintshire, Wales
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Elizebeth Phillips Wife - Female 46 1825 - Shropshire, England
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Mary Phillips Daughter - Female 14 1857 - Flintshire, Wales
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Richard Phillips Son - Male 10 1861 - Flintshire, Wales
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John Phillips Son - Male 7 1864 - Flintshire, Wales
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Anne Phillips Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Flintshire, Wales

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 23:17


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wrexham Road, Tybroughton (Flint), Ellesmere, Shropshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elizabeth Phillips Head Widow Female 55 1826 Occupier Of Land -
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John Phillips Son Single Male 17 1864 ((No Oc)) Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales
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Beatrice Phillips Grand Daughter Single Female 9 1872 - Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales
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Emily Martin Grand Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Lancashire, England

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 23:19


Flint Baptisms Transcription
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First name(s) BEATRICE
Last name PHILLIPS
Birth year 1872
Birth day -
Birth month -
Baptism year 1872
Baptism day 02
Baptism month Jan
Place HANMER
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Father's first name(s) -
County Flintshire
Country Wales
Record set Flint Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 23:25


England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) ELLIS
Last name MARTIN
Gender Unknown
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1849
Age 55
Death quarter 3
Death year 1904
District WOLSTANTON
County Staffordshire
Volume 6B
Page 52
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 23:47


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Scott Hay, Madeley, Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ellis Martin Head Married Female 42 1849 Coal Miner Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
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Eliza Martin Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
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Elinor Martin Daughter Single Female 16 1875 Mothers Help Flintshire, Wales
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Henry Martin Son Single Male 14 1877 Coal Miner Prestwich, Lancashire, England
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John Martin Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Silverdale, Staffordshire, England
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Elizabeth Martin Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Silverdale, Staffordshire, England
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Alice Martin Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Leycett, Staffordshire, England
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Emily Martin Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Leycett, Staffordshire, England
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Thomas Davis Lodger Single Male 38 1853 Coal Miner Oldbury, Staffordshire, England

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2016 23:50


Flint Baptisms Transcription
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First name(s) ELENOR
Last name MARTIN
Birth year 1874
Birth day -
Birth month -
Baptism year 1874
Baptism day 17
Baptism month May
Place HANMER
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Father's first name(s) Ellis
County Flintshire
Country Wales
Record set Flint Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 14 Mar 2016 11:34

wonderful safc, I need to digest all this now. One part I don't understand is she re-married a William Fox in 1889. Is this bigamy or divorce as I believe Divorce was very uncommon at this time

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Mar 2016 12:15

This is the marriage for reference. Are you certain this is your Mary? Do you have the certificate?


England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
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First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name FOX
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1889
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ WILLIAM FOX married one of these people
MARY ELLEN GREATBANKS, MARY MARTIN
District WHITCHURCH (SHROPSHIRE)
District number -
County Shropshire
Country England
Volume 6A
Page 1439

EDIT It would be interesting to know how Mary describes herself.

safc

safc Report 14 Mar 2016 12:17


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Oldcastle, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Fox Head Married Male 68 1823 Agricultural Labourer Malpas, Cheshire, England
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Mary Fox Wife Married Female 38 1853 - Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales
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Emily Montin Stepdaughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England

safc

safc Report 14 Mar 2016 12:18

Deaths Jun 1895 (>99%)
Fox William 71 Whitchurch, S. 6a 481

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Mar 2016 12:19

OK I take it this is them with Emily so it certainly does seem to be the same person.



1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Oldcastle, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Fox Head Married Male 68 1823 Agricultural Labourer Malpas, Cheshire, England
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Mary Fox Wife Married Female 38 1853 - Hanmer, Flintshire, Wales
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Emily Montin Stepdaughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England

SNAP Safc!!

alviegal

alviegal Report 14 Mar 2016 12:26

Ellis in 1901. He dies in 1904.


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
12, Crown Street, Silverdale, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ellis Martin Head Married Male 52 1849 Coal Miner Overman Oldbury, Staffordshire, England
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Eliza Martin Wife Married Female 50 1851 Housework -
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John Martin Son Single Male 16 1885 Coal Miner Driver Silverdale, Staffordshire, England
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Elizabeth A Martin Daughter Single Female 15 1886 Machinist Colliery Factory Leycett, Staffordshire, England
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Alice Martin Daughter - Female 13 1888 School Leycett, Staffordshire, England
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Emily Martin Daughter - Female 11 1890 School Leycett, Staffordshire, England
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Thomas Davies Boarder Single Male 37 1864 Coal Miner Hewer Staffordshire, England


and 1911. Eliza is Married?



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
29 Albert St Silverdale Staffordshire, Silverdale, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Eliza Martin Wife Married Female At Home 59 1852 Wolverhampton Staffs
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Elizabeth Ann Martin Daughter Single Female Dipper 25 1886 Silverdale Staffs
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Alice Martin Daughter Single Female Ware Cleaner 23 1888 Leycett Staffs
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Thomas Davies Brother Single Male Miner Formerly Cripple 56 1855 Rounds Green Oldbury
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John Walklate Boarder Single Male Miner Loader 21 1890 Silverdale Staffs

EDIT The image reads widow for Eliza. She would have been married 29 years, had had 9 children, 4 still living.
There's John, 26 and Emily, 21 both crossed out.