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Huge thanks to Malyon, greyghost and Chris Ho for suggestions. I am drawn to your 2 suggestions Chris, because of the 'shoe maker' profession.
And I can easily see how the name Langley could be read as Laugley/Longley.
Do I need to invest in Certificates at this stage, or is there something more I can do to narrow these 2 down to say one.
Just thought, perhaps I will check out the 1991 census for both names. By then, my Great Grandfather Alexander would have been born.
Thanks to all :-)
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(think you better look at below, from google!)
Chris :)
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/LONDON/2007-01/1168869163
(Interestingly the boy Alexander Abrahams lived by the name of Alexander Langley (many of the Ottolangui's used the anglicanized name 'Langley') He died on 18 April 1900. Death registered in both names Abrahams & Langley. He married twice ( marriages not found) 1. Sophia Unknown 2. Mary Ann Unknown. He had 4 children 1.John born circa 1869 in Bristol (mother Sophia) 2. Elizabeth Rebecca born abt 1873, Hackney, London (mother either Sophia or Mary Ann) 3. Abraham born abt 1874 Hackney, London ( mother either Sophia or Mary Ann) 4. Albert G born abt 1881 (most likely mother Mary Ann).
Note: Birth registrations for these children not found but it is likely all the children were born with the surname Langley or Abrahams or both!)
http://www.oocities.org/ottolangui2002/Alexander_Ottolangui_also_Langley_1844.html
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BRITISH-JEWRY/2011-10/1318129838
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Middlesex_County_UK/2005-10/1129465264
http://www.oocities.org/ottolangui2002/
(Merle Langley, comes up on google, also with queries)
edits (suggestion for one on below)
Births Jun 1843 (>99%)
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OTOLANGUE Abraham Whitechapel 2 529
1851 (Find My Past)
Alexander Otelango Head Married Male 47 1804 General Dealer Mile End, Middlesex,
Elizabeth Otelango Wife Married Female 46 1805 - Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
John Otelango Grand Child - Male 9 1842 Scholar Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Alexander Otelango Grand Child - Male 7 1844 Scholar Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Abraham Otelango Grand Child - Male 5 1846 - Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Mark Frankel - Unmarried Male 24 1827 Taylor Poland (Russia)
Kalmer Frankel - Unmarried Male 22 1829 Tailor Poland (Russia)
Jones Reemes - Married Male 32 1819 School Master Christchurch, Middlesex, England
Street Shepherd Street
Parish Christchurch
County Middlesex
Parliamentary borough Tower Hamlets
Registration district Whitechapel
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1543
Folio 669
Page 8
1861 (Find My Past)
Elizth Ottolangue Head Widow Female 56 1805 General Dealer Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Sarah Abrahams Daughter Married Female 35 1826 Milliner Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Alexdr Abrahams Grandson Unmarried Male 17 1844 Boot Maker Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Abraham Abrahams Grandson Unmarried Male 14 1847 Scholar Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Anne Abrahams Granddaughter Unmarried Female 7 1854 Scholar Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Louis Abrahams Grandson Unmarried Male 5 1856 Scholar Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
House number 20
Street Shepperd Street
Parish Spitalfields
County London, Middlesex
Parliamentary borough Tower Hamlets
Ecclesiastical district Christchurch
Registration district Whitechapel
Enumeration district 16
Archive reference RG09
Piece number 266
Folio number 149
Page number 9
Deaths Sep 1860 (>99%)
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Otolangue Alexander Whitechapel 1c 193
Deaths Dec 1887 (>99%)
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Ottolange Elizabeth 87 Whitechapel 1c 230
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there is no mention of alexander born 1873 to the above alexander and sophia
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No, but there is an Abraham on 1881, as you can see from reading links posted above, not going to be straightforward, nothing what it seems!...
Chris :)
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Wow Chris, this is an awful lot to take in. I would never have thought that Ottolengui would translate to Langley. But I am now so overwhelmed by what I have just read, I do't know where best to start in trying to verify this. Any help on the best and first steps to be taken would be much appreciated.
I note that many of you jump around to various different sites to glean ifo.
Cheers, Trish :-)
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Well Trish, for somebody like yourself just starting out, I think you might have a 'tough cookie to crumble', lol...(for that Birth Cert.)
If he is relating to Ot etc surname, then just to add there is another family in Shepherd Street, Spitalfields on 1851 and 41. Looking more on google it seems Merle Langley is in Australia, and relates to this other family, who tie in with yours. She comes up on google searches, and seems well 'knowledged' on them. (think also she links to Facebook)
http://www.oocities.org/ottolangui2002/
Looking on below, just searching by Whitechapel using ot* 1838 - 1851 then 1852 - 1862 etc. you will see many variants of that surname...
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
(not sure what below would bring, maybe worth a try, one can only hope, lol)
Births Sep 1874 (>99%)
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LANGLEY Abraham Hackney 1b 536
google is a good port of call for family history, you never know what might turn up, have a look round, and see what you think.
Chris :)
edits (below relates to 'school' Alexander, address given on below, Find My Past, his father a Mercantile Clerk)
National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription
(Hertfordshire)
(ties in with 1881, Somerset Road, Chipping Barnet (Herts), Barnet, Middlesex, 1891 already posted)
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Thanks Chris for all the advice. Looks like I shall be researching this one for a good while. Best set to work. :-)
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