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Re: Michael Burke

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Michaelena

Michaelena Report 16 Oct 2015 12:24

I am trying to trace my G/Grandfather who was a Pt in 88th Reg.,6 Rangers in India in 1860's. His wife was named Mary and they had a daughter Margaret in 1862 while stationed in Shajehampore ,would be pleased to hear from any person who could help.

Michaelena

malyon

malyon Report 16 Oct 2015 12:49



Margaret Burke

India Births and Baptisms

Name Margaret Burke
Gender Female
Christening Date 21 May 1862
Christening Place Shajehampore, Bengal, India
Birth Date 06 Apr 1862
Father's Name Michael Burke
Mother's Name Mary

malyon

malyon Report 16 Oct 2015 12:50



Margaret Burke

mentioned in the record of Arthur Moore and Margaret Burke

Name Arthur Moore
Birth Date 1852
Age 27
Spouse's Name Margaret Burke
Spouse's Birth Date 1862
Spouse's Age 17
Event Date 06 Aug 1879
Event Place Jhansi, Bengal, India
Father's Name John Moore
Mother's Name Caroline Moore
Spouse's Father's Name Michel Burke
Spouse's Mother's Name Mary Burke

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Oct 2015 13:15

Welcome to the boards, Michaelena.

What else do you know about your g-grandfather?
DOB? Place of birth? Marriage date or place?

Any little detail might help us trace him.
Michael Burke is quite a common name.

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Oct 2015 14:05

are there other siblings ???


Michael Burke
mentioned in the record of Ellen Burke
Name Michael Burke
Gender Male
Wife Mary
Daughter Ellen Burke
Other information in the record of Ellen Burke
from India Births and Baptisms
Name Ellen Burke
Gender Female
Christening Date 13 Oct 1866
Christening Place India
Birth Date 19 Sep 1866
Birthplace Jhansie, Bengal, India
Father's Name Michael Burke
Mother's Name Mary

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Oct 2015 01:34

the information on baptisms can be found on the family search site (ie, the Mormon site)


www.familysearch.org

use ONLY the records to get accurate information


India Births and Baptisms 1786-1947

Name Margaret Burke
Gender Female
Christening Date 21 May 1862
Christening Place Shajehampore, Bengal, India
Birth Date 06 Apr 1862
Father's Name Michael Burke
Mother's Name Mary

Citing this Record

"India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG34-8RW : accessed 17 October 2015), Michael Burke in entry for Margaret Burke, 21 May 1862; citing , reference v 101 p 383; FHL microfilm 499,006.


I can't yet see a marriage ....................... I wonder if they were possibly married before arriving in India?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Oct 2015 01:38

Burke could be an Irish name


Googling "88th Regiment 6 Ranges" provides all kinds of information .............. indicating that it was indeed an Irish Regiment

from Wikipedia ...........

History

The regiment was raised on 25 September 1793 from the men of Connaught by John Thomas de Burgh, 13th Earl of Clanricard.

The 88th were deployed to India in response to the Indian Mutiny in July 1857 in four detachments. It arrived in Calcutta in November. The Connaught Rangers served in India until 1870.




Soooooooooooooo ...................

it looks as though you should be looking for Irish records.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Oct 2015 10:17

There are a few possible sets of service records on FindMyPast so Michaelina needs to provide some further information.

ADDED:

Possibly -

1861 Worldwide Army Index Transcription

First name Michael
Last name Burke
Service number 850
Rank Private
Unit or Regiment 88th Foot (Connaught Rangers) Depot
Regiment stationed at Colchester
Year 1861
National Archives reference WO12 / 9070

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Oct 2015 10:23

Slightly different version of the baptism posted by malyon:

British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns- Births & Baptisms Transcription

First name(s) Margaret
Last name Burke
Baptism year 1862
Birth year 1862
Place Bareilly
Presidency Bengal
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) Michael
Father's last name Burke
Baptism date 21 May 1862
Birth date 06 Apr 1862
Archive reference N-1-101
Folio 383
Page -
Catalogue descriptions Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal

On the image, Michael Burke is a PT 88th Regt C Rangers (not 6 Rangers) so that would indeed be the Connaughts.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Oct 2015 13:24

The Wikipedia page quoted from by Sylvia also says that the Connaught Rangers "recruited mainly in the province of Connacht"

Looking at Connacht, on Wikipedia, it says it covers Galway, Mayo, Sligo, Roscommon, & Leitrim - doesn't help much to narrow down a search for Michael!


This will be the Michael Burke in Colchester, as per the record posted by MC - it doesn't specify where in Ireland he was born, but does give his age. It also says he's married:


Michael Burke

in the 1861 England Census
Name: Michael Burke
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: 1834
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Colchester St Botolph
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Colchester
Sub-registration district: Colchester First Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: Colchester Infantry Barracks
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 1097
Folio: 160
Page Number: 17

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 17 Oct 2015 16:28

I'll let Michaelena know how to find her replies :-)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 17 Oct 2015 16:38

There is another Michael Burke at the same barracks in 1861, unmarried, but still a possibility:

Name: Michael Burke
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: 1841
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Colchester St Botolph
County/Island: Essex
Registration district: Colchester
Sub-registration district: Colchester First Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: Colchester Infantry Barracks
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 1097 Folio: 162 Page Number: 22

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 17 Oct 2015 17:20

Is this Margaret with Arthur in 1891?

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Gorton Brook Street, Gorton, Chorlton, Lancashire, England

Arthur Moor Head Married Male 39 1852 Gas Fitters Labourer Nottinghamshire,
Margaret Moor Wife Married Female 28 1863 - India
Arthur Moor Son Single Male 10 1881 Scholar India
Transcription
John Moor Son Single Male 7 1884 Scholar Dorchester, Dorset, England
Millicent Moor Daughter Single Female 5 1886 Scholar Dorchester, Dorset, England
Fred Moor Son Single Male 3 1888 - Dorchester, Dorset,
Winefred J Moor Daughter Single Female 0 1891 - Lancashire,

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And is this the children in 1901?:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1, Soapery Street, South Manchester, Chorlton, Lancashire, England

Mary Shanahan Head Widow Female 66 1835 - Ireland
Mary A Shanahan Daughter Single Female 27 1874 Waterproof Garment Maker East Indies
Arthur Moore Grand Son Single Male 20 1881 Engine Fitter Loco East Indies
Frederick Moore Grand Son Single Male 13 1888 Apprentice House Shoe Making Dorchester
Winifred Moore Grand Daughter - Female 10 1891 - Manchester, Lancashire,
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

So, did Margaret's mother, Mary, marry again? Or is this a different family?
Possible remarriage for mother:

British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Marriages Transcription
name(s) Mary Burke (widow 88th regiment)
Marriage date 7 Jan 1865
Spouse's first name Patrick
Spouse's last name Shanahan
Place Cawnpore
Presidency Bengal
Groom's age 32
Bride's age 30
Groom's father's first name Michael
Bride's father's first name Andrew
Archive reference N-1-111 Folio number 190
Record set British India Office marriages

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Oct 2015 17:26

I looked at the actual image for Michael Burke age 20, as posted by AustinQ

It states that he is Unmarried.

I would put my vote toward the first Michael Burke, age 34, as a possible, as the image does say Married.

There is always of course a possibility that Michael age 20 married after the census before leaving England.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 17 Oct 2015 17:39

I did state he was listed as unmarried, but that it was still a possibility.
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If above (1901 census) is the correct family, and Mary did remarry, then this is a possible death for Michael:

British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Deaths & Burials Transcription

name(s) Michael Burke (Private H.M. 88)
Birth year 1829
Death date 31 Aug 1864
Age 35Y 7M
Burial date 31 Aug 1864
Place Lucknow
Presidency Bengal
Archive Reference N-1-110 Page 192
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Listed again- slightly different year of birth, but same man:

name(s) Michael Burke (Private H M 88th regiment)
Birth year 1826
Death date 31 Aug 1864
Age 38
Burial date 01 Sep 1864
Place Cawnpore
Presidency Bengal
Archive Reference N-1-109 Page 224

Michaelena

Michaelena Report 17 Oct 2015 20:57

Thank you for all your replies,I have a copy of Margaret's birth cert and her marriage certificate [both events took place in India] also know that she and her husband died in 1893 in Manchester,the same year my G/Grandmother was born she and her sister Millicent went to live with the Mulryan family in Manchester,think they were her Aunt and Uncle.
I have not been able to confirm any details of her parents prior to her birth in India or what happened to them, think she had 2 siblings both girls again no details of their lives.
Will check all the infor.you have given me hoping it will take me forward.

Michaelena

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Oct 2015 21:27

well, if you have their marriage certificate .............. what is the name of Michael Burke's father, and his occupation?

If you know they both died in 1893 in Manchester, then most of the information found for you is wrong, as the deaths found by AustinQ and others are wrong, as those men died in India and much earlier.

Do you have the death certificates??? The name of the informant is often very helpful.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Oct 2015 21:39

I am confused ................. not an unusual state :-)


In you OP, you say ...............

trying to trace my G/GRANDFATHER who was a Pt in 88th Reg.,6 Rangers in India in 1860's. His wife was named Mary and they had a daughter Margaret in 1862 while stationed in Shajehampore


Then in your second post, you say ................

I have a copy of MARGARET's birth cert and her marriage certificate [both events took place in India] also know that SHE and her husband died in 1893 in Manchester,the same year my G/GrRANDMOTHER was born she and her sister Millicent went to live with the Mulryan family in Manchester



was your great grandmother the daughter of Margaret Burke and her husband??

Was Margaret's husband Arthur Moor(e)?

Are we therefore looking for Margaret's Father?

If so, that means we are looking for your 3 x gr grandfather?

Is that correct?



SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Oct 2015 21:47

Are these Millicent and your Great-grandmother in 1901???

1901 Census

Name: Millicent L Moore
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: South Manchester
Search Photos: Search for 'South Manchester' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Gorton St Mark
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 082

Piece: 3685
Folio: 114
Page Number: 10
Household schedule number: 62

Nicholas Mulryan 33 b.ca 1868, Manchester, Iron Turner Fitter
Julia Mulryan 33 b.ca 1868, India
Julia Mulryan 5
Nicholas Mulryan 1
Millicent L Moore 15 Dressmaker's Apprentice
Margaret Moore 7 b.ca 1894, Manchester

Address:- 43 Margaret Street

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Oct 2015 21:52

?? Marriage of Nicholas and Julia


Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%)

Mulryan Nicholas Chorlton 8c 1271
Shanahan Julia Chorlton 8c 1271



so was Julia the child of Mary Burke by her second husband Patrick Shanahan .......

Marriage found by AustinQ and posted above ............

British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Marriages Transcription

name(s) Mary Burke (widow 88th regiment)
Marriage date 7 Jan 1865
Spouse's first name Patrick
Spouse's last name Shanahan
Place Cawnpore
Presidency Bengal
Groom's age 32
Bride's age 30
Groom's father's first name Michael
Bride's father's first name Andrew
Archive reference N-1-111 Folio number 190
Record set British India Office marriages