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I think some of Mia's information on the Warings skips a generation.
From the information found above I get that
Edith Waring born March 1st 1904, baptised 3rd April 1904 Birkenhead -parents were Thomas George Waring and Mary Jane Hanley.
Edith's baptism states born 1st March 1904- this fits with her death:
name(s) EDITH STANLEY
Gender Female
Birth day 1st March 1904
Death quarter 3
Death year 1985
District BIRKENHEAD
Register number 985
County Cheshire
Volume 37 Page 661
Edith's Parents, Thomas George Waring and Mary Jane Hanley married in 1895. On the marriage certificate Thomas listed his father as Matthius Waring.
Thomas George Waring (1872- 1953), was the son of Matthius Waring and Johanna Hanlin (they married 1872 Liverpool).
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Just to help me get this straight:
Mia's nan d/o Thomas Stanley & Edith Waring
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Thomas Stanley s/o Arthur Watson Stanley & Lily Helena Wynn m1899
- Arthur Watson Stanley s/o ?
- Lily Helena Wynn (1878- ) d/o Thomas Wynne & Elizabeth ?Roberts? m1874
- - Thomas Wynn s/o ?
- - Elizabeth ?Roberts? d/o Esther ?Edwards?
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Edith Waring (1904- ) d/o Thomas George Waring & Mary Jane Hanley m1895
- Thomas George Waring (1872- ) s/o Mathias Waring & Johannah Hanlin m1872
- - Mathias Waring (1839- ) s/o Elizabeth ?Waring?
- - Johannah Hanlin d/o ?
- Mary Jane Hanley d/o John Hanley & Mary ?
The rest is a bit disorganized - comes from following so many folk
Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1891 to 1895
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WARING Thomas George HANLEY Mary Jane Birkenhead, St Mary Wirral BK8/15/287
Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
Waring Thomas George Birkenhead 8a 782
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1876 HANLEY Mary Birkenhead Wirral BIR/107/61
1877 HANLEY Mary Birkenhead Wirral BIR/109/92
Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1928
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HOPKINS John Albert STANLEY Lily May Birkenhead, Civil Marriage or Registrar Attended Wirral BW/142/9
Marriages Jun 1928 (>99%)
Stanley Lily M Hopkins Birkenhead 8a 1366
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1872
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WARING * Matthias HANLIN Johanna Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/59/286
WARING * Matthias HANLON Johanna Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/59/286
WARING * Matthias RICHARDS Johanna Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/59/286
Marriages Mar 1872 (>99%)
Hanlin Johanna Liverpool 8b 238
Waring Matthias Liverpool 8b 238
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1872 WARING Thomas George Birkenhead Wirral BIR/91/41
1877 WARING Mary Ann Birkenhead Wirral BIR/109/15
1891 [rg12/2889/98/15-16]
Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Residence View Image
Peter Durham Margaret abt 1855 city, Kent, England Head city, Cheshire
Margaret Durham Peter abt 1860 Ireland relation city, Cheshire
Nellie Durham Peter,Margaret abt 1887 city, Cheshire, England relation city, Cheshire
Margaret Durham Peter,Margaret abt 1889 city, Cheshire, England relation city, Cheshire
John Hanley abt 1837 city, Cheshire, England Boarder city, Cheshire
Mary Jane Hanley abt 1877 city, Cheshire, England Servant city, Cheshire
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1897q2 WARING Clara Birkenhead Wirral BIR/191/56
1900q2 WARING Florence Birkenhead Wirral BIR/204/96
1904q1 WARING Edith Birkenhead Wirral HANLEY BIR/221/3
1905[06q1] WARING George Birkenhead Wirral HANLEY BIR/229/2
1908q2 WARING May Birkenhead Wirral HANLEY BIR/239/77
1910q2 WARING Elizabeth Birkenhead Wirral HANLEY BIR/247/60
1912q3 WARING Frederick Birkenhead Wirral HANLEY BIR/257/43
1913q4 WARING Charles Birkenhead Wirral HANLEY BIR/263/21
Two notes abt this set of local indexes - it is indexed by year of birth, not qarter of registration. One has 6 wks to rego a birth, so it's not unusual for a birth to be rego'ed in the next quarter, which would be another year for a late Dec birth (which was probably the case for George).
Secondly, one sometimes needs to match up the GRO index with the local index.
Here we have an example - we want the Birkenhead Florrie
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1900
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WARING Florence Birkenhead Wirral BIR/204/96
WARING Florence Tranmere Wirral TRA/76/36
But the GRO just shows 2 Birkenhead rego's in difft quarters which is ours?
On FreeBMD, one can click on the page link to see other names indexed to the same GRO page - here I've just included one of the 10, and I've appended the ChesBMD ref to it:
Births Mar 1900 (>99%)
Oxton Nora Lee Birkenhead 8a 542 TRA/76/38
Waring Florence Birkenhead 8a 542
Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
O'Hare Agnes Birkenhead 8a 528 BIR/204/95
WARING Florence Birkenhead 8a 528
The local ref typically has 3 elemnts:
1) a code identifying the subdistrict ehere the rego took place for Bs & Ds, or the set of rego's containing the marr (typically a church code);
2) a register sequence # within the above set;
3) an entry #, or a page # within that rego - Bs, Ds & church marrs have 500 entries the registrar's marr rego often has 200 entries.
Local rego's allways have 5 entries per page for Bs & Ds, and 2 entries per page for Ms.
Since none of the 8 Waring-Hanley Bs has a last element exceeding 100, it looks like the last element is a page # in this subdistrict.
Entry #s on the same GRO page can differ by 10 at this time, and these can occupy parts of 3 adjacent local pages, as happens in our Tranmere example.
Usually, an entry # is used for marrs, so one knows who wed whom.
However, even when only a page # is given, it can be useful to look it up, e.g.:
(Using another site gatewayed via http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd )
North Wales Marriage indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WYNN Thomas Match Possible Spouses Wrexham, Civil Marriage Wrexham County Borough (Wrexham) WM/016/78
EDWARDS Catherine WM/016/78
JONES John WM/016/78
ROBERTS Elizabeth WM/016/78
Here's a couple of adjacent pages from the GRO index:
Marriages Mar 1874 (>99%)
JONES Catherine Wrexham 11b 419
Jones William Wrexham 11b 419
>>Roberts Elizabeth Wrexham 11b 419
>>WYNN Thomas Wrexham 11b 419
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>>Edwards Catherine Wrexham 11b 418
Hanmer Georgina Wrexham 11b 418
>>Jones John Wrexham 11b 418
WALLACE William Wrexham 11b 418
We see the local and GRO pages are misaligned here - which can happen if the total number of marrs in the registrar's own rego in previous quarters was an odd number.
So the misalignment sorts out the two pairs of spouses, and Thomas Wynn wed Elizabeth Roberts - Eliz could be a widow, so Roberts might not be her maiden surname.
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Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1896 to 1899
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
STANLEY Arthur Watson WYNN Lily Helena Wirral, Civil Marriage or Registrar Attended Wirral WW/3/185
Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)
Stanley Arthur Watson Wirral 8a 617
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1899q2 STANLEY Thomas Birkenhead Wirral BIR/200/16
1902q1 STANLEY Zinah Birkenhead Wirral WYNN BIR/212/4
1904q3 STANLEY Lily May Tranmere Wirral TRA/88/72
1909q1 STANLEY Edna Tranmere Wirral WYNN TRA/103/11
1909q1 STANLEY Phyllis Tranmere Wirral WYNN TRA/103/11
1911q2 STANLEY Frederick Tranmere Wirral WYNN TRA/110/41
1911q2 STANLEY George Tranmere Wirral WYNN TRA/110/41
1915q4 STANLEY Leonard Tranmere Wirral WYNN TRA/124/98 [GRO has Wyn]
NB Re 1911 census - Ancestry transcibes the twins as Lice & George - there's a user correction of Lice to Fred
*** IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW HOW MANY KIDS DIED BY 1911 ***
Cheshire Death indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Age or Year of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
1904q4 STANLEY Zinah 2 Tranmere Wirral TRA/53/50
1909q4 STANLEY Phyllis 0 Tranmere Wirral TRA/62/10
1909q4 STANLEY Edna 0 Tranmere Wirral TRA/62/11
1915q4 STANLEY Leonard 0 Tranmere Wirral TRA/74/39
Births Jun 1878 (>99%)
WYNN Lily Eleanor Wrexham 11b 343
North Wales Birth indexes for the years: 1878
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WYNN Lily Eleanor Wrexham Wrexham County Borough (Wrexham) WM/054/4
1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQWJ-6QQ
1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5PL-TMP
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1853
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WATSON Arthur Birkenhead Wirral BIR/23/11
1841 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7M1-76J
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1839q4 WARING Matthias Birkenhead Wirral BIR/2/36
1844q4 WARING Jane Birkenhead Wirral BIR/6/54
Neithor of these is our lass:
Deaths Jun 1853 (>99%)
Waring Jane Wirral 8a 287
Deaths Dec 1853 (>99%)
Waring Jane Wirral 8a 270
Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1853
Surname Forename(s) Age or Year of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
WARING Jane 0 Woodchurch Wirral WOO/3/82
WARING Jane 1 Neston Wirral NES/3/90
Whether this 1831 Bidston marr is relevant, I don't know:
Field Name Field Value
KEYCODE BIDSM00700613.10048
PADVER bidsM0613.1
PARISH_CODE BIDS
TAGGED 0
DATED 8310926
GROOM_FNAME JOHN
GROOM_SNAME WARING
GROOM_RESID BIDS
GROOM_SIGN X
BANNS BS
BRIDE_FNAME ELIZABETH
BRIDE_SNAME BENNET
BRIDE_RESID BIDS
BRIDE_SIGN X
W_FNAME_1 WILLIAM
W_SNAME_1 HALEWOOD
W_FNAME_2 WILLIAM
W_SNAME_2 DICKENSON
C_FNAME J
C_SNAME GATE
ADDITIONAL_INFORMATION C
http://cgi.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/
I don't have the right sub to see this bit of piece 2175 in 1851
Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Residence
Elizabeth Warring abt 1813 location relation city, Cheshire
George Warring Elizabeth abt 1838 location relation city, Cheshire
Matthias Warring Elizabeth abt 1840 location relation city, Cheshire
Jane Warring Elizabeth abt 1845 location relation city, Cheshire
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG29-P5X
and again in rg9/2643 in 1861
Elizabeth Waring 1813 city, Cheshire, England relation city, Cheshire
George Waring Elizabeth 1837 city, Cheshire, England relation city, Cheshire
Mathias Waring Elizabeth 1840 city, Cheshire, England relation city, Cheshire
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7GS-Y6H
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