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Dear sheilafromdownunder

The original of the 1841 census has an 'I' for Ireland by the entry for David and a 'Y' for 'Yes' next to all the other names in the family.
This means that apart from David they were born in the county where the census was taken.
They appear to be Catholics and David was buried as a Catholic.
Do you have any reason to believe that they made the very radical change to the Mormon faith?
I don't know which transcription you have looked at but the Mormons believe in the posterior baptism of deceased people into their church through family history which is why they run the familysearch site.
I still think that BiC means simply Born in County (Middlesex).

Sheila


As Beverley said ...............


"BIC" on the 1841 ENGLISH and Wales census means .............Born In County

It was a term used only on the 1841 Census ................ all later censuses have a space where the actual birthplace is stated ............... often incorrect, but still stated.


It has nothing to do with the LDS religion.


It certainly would not have been included in a census as early as 1841 in England when the State Religion was Anglican, as it remains to this day.



Please do not mis-read and mis-understand!



All that census tells us is that David was born in Ireland, but Maria and the children had been born somewhere in Middlesex!

to follow on from what Beverley has just posted .................


a number of my father's early relatives are seemingly baptized into the Mormon Church


Unfortunately for them .............. that happened at least 100 years after they died, being elevated into the Mormon Church by a descendant who was converted to that religion much later.


I say "unfortunately" because they were all originally baptised, married and buried in the Anglican religion, and had no choice in being re-baptised.



Please do accept that you have misunderstood the official term on the 1841 Census of "BIC" .............................. which really does mean Born In County.

Thank you for "putting me right " But it still does not explain why there is not listings for most of their children. Richard, Maria, Cecelia & Joseph------ I think that I will give up on this family .
:-S

Because they were Catholics and many Catholic churches and parishes have not agreed to give their records to the LDS (familysearch) or to publish them elsewhere online.

Sheila ...............



not all records are on the web


ALL of us have missing information, and just have to wait until it becomes available


IF this family is Catholic, as seems likely, then you will have a longer wait ...............


as Beverley has said, the Catholic churches have not agreed to let LDS have access to their records .............. and familysearch is an LDS site.

and they have also been very slow, or reluctant, to let other sites have access, or to transcribe the records themselves





I notice that you also queried the spelling of Theresa as being yours.


Most of our ancestors were illiterate, and you will find all kinds of weird and wonderful mis-spellings.

However, some spellings are almost interchangeable ............ just as they are today.

Someone writing down a name will often just spell it as they know it


so


Theresa and Teresa ...... or even Teresia


Ellen, Helen, Hellen .......... even Elinor or Eleanor as I am finding out at the moment


James, Jas


you even have other examples in the Oatest family ........

Selina, Celina, Silina, Cilina


Maria, could be found as Marie or Mary



My name ............ Sylvia, Silvia



I had a school friend who spelled her name Shiela



Never ever discount a record because the name is not spelled exactly as you think it should be.

If all else fits ........ such as place, date, name(s) of parent(s) ............ then it is yours!

Thank you