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Hi

I bought my grandfather’s birth cert, and then I bought his parents’ marriage cert.
The marriage was between James Branigan and Elizabeth Gaughran, 1906 Louth, Ireland.

On the wedding cert it has James down as Branigan but his father is down as Brangan, now i know you have different speelings but this is on the same cert, could this just be a mistake.

But what I am really trying to find out is James parents,
from the marriage record it says his father is John Brangan.
Where it say where living as time of marriage it has down newtown monasterboice, so I have looked this up and have found a john Brannigan, but I am not sure if this is James father,
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Louth/Monasterboice/Newtown_Monasterboice/572500/

I can’t find James on the 1901 census, I have found a record with a james Branagan born in newtown monasterboice,
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGPS-H9K

but on the marriage record it say where living at time of marriage which is newtown monasterboice, but this doesn’t prove he was born there.

There are a few different spellings with these records when it comes to Branigan, could the spelling really change that many times over the years.
I have found a John Brannigan on the 1911 census living in newtown monasterboice, but not sure if this would be James father. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Louth/Monasterboice/Newtown_Monasterboice/572500/

Could someone advise me on what to do next because I am at a loss, I’m not sure what record to get next, I can’t go to the 1891 census as there isn’t one for Ireland.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you all so much
Lorna

What was the occupation of the father - on the cert?

What was the occupation of the man on the census return?

Yes, the spelling is likely to vary...........quite considerably, in some instances.

That 1911 says they have had 6 children.........all living

I just looked at the 1901 and the 1911 census and they both say farmer but on James marriage cert it says his father was a labourer.
Now i am at a total loss.

My Dad thinks he remember somethink about the monasterboice, but how much of this would be true i don't no.

on the 1911 census it has James down as 31

on his marriage cert for age it just says full

Who witnessed the marriage?

Please post 1911 for James

Witness was Patrick Flanigan and annie Tierney

I found a Annie Tierney in Tullyallen, were James and his wife lived.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Louth/St__Peter_s__part_of_/Tullyallen/572467/

OK.....found it
Residents of a house 12 in Tullyallen (St. Peter's (part of), Louth)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Branigan James 31 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Louth Agricultural Labourer Read and write - Married - 5 4 3
Branigan Elizabeth 33 Female Wife Roman Catholic Co Louth - Read and write - Married - 5 4 3
Branigan John 4 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Louth - Canot Read - Single - - - -
Branigan Bridget 1 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Louth - Canot Read - - - - - -
Branigan Patrick Joseph Male Son Roman Catholic Co Louth - Canot Read - - - - - -

Not very informative with regard to birthplace, which is a nuisance

There is this



Name:James Branagan

Gender:Male

Birth Date:29 Oct 1878

Birth Place:Newtown Monaster..., Louth, Ireland

Father's name:
John Branagan

Mother's name:
Bridget ... Branagan

FHL Film Number:256015

James 1911

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Louth/St__Peter_s__part_of_/Tullyallen/572458/

It is quite common to 'upgrade' your occupation. So the father can easily call himself a farmer but his son could well know that his father is only a farm labourer.

Yep that is the one i found for John Branigan, but now i see that it has him dowm as a farmer and on James marriage cert is say labourer.
on 1901 it has farmer and 1911 it has farmer
but the marriage of james in 1906 it has labouer.

I started using the irish find my past site and really can't find any information,
but i am not getting anything for the birth of james Branigan, i have tried different spelling aswell.
Could you tell me what site you found james branigan birth on please.
and thank you so much for you help.

I got the birth details from Ancestry

I see he named two of his children, John & Bridget, maybe after his parents

1901

Residents of a house 19 in Newtown Monasterboice (Monasterboice, Louth)

Relation to head

Religion

Brannigan John 58 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Farmer
Brannigan Bridget 50 Female Wife R C
Brannigan Cathrine 23 Female Daughter R C
Brannigan Lawrence 19 Male Son R C
Brannigan Rose 13 Female Daughter R C
Brannigan Juliah 12 Female Daughter R C

Thank you Gins, I will need to sign back up to Ancestry, this other site i'm on isn't really that good, i don't seem to get any results.

Yes didn't think that he may of named them after his parents.

If i got the birth cert of james with the information you gave me do you think that is
enough to connect it with the john in monasterboice, sorry for all the questions,
as i am unsure what to do next.

Thank you everyone for your help.

Yep i got that 1901 census, i even went up to the cemetery yesterday and found the grave stone for them and there are a few other branigan in there, but i'm trying not to jump the gun, i want to make sure i am on the right path.

There are what looks to be siblings for James, this one is interesting as the mother has Flanagan in her name



Name:Lawrence Branagan

Gender:Male

Birth Date:29 Jan 1881

Birth Place:Ireland

Father's name:
John Branagan

Mother's name:
Bridget Flanagan Branagan

FHL Film Number:257858

well that is interesting because there was quiet a few flanagan in the gravesite and flanigan was a witness at james wedding.

Las95 - sounds like you are in Ireland.

Have you tried local archives, this site is not bad for finding records: rootsireland.ie