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FHL Film Number: 1596294
Reference ID: Page 7 #51

Bishop's transcripts for St. Mary's Church, Portsea, 1740-1835

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Where did you get the reference from please?

It was at the bottom of the notes of person I was looking up on Ancestry

It's probably a reference to an event they found on another site.

If you cant find the record on familysearch, This one has some good (free) links
http://website.lineone.net/~mcgoa/pr.html

If you google the name of the church + Bishops Transcripts, there are other results.

It looks like I will have to order a filch to be sent to the nearest Family history centre to me.with the information on.

I googled St Mary'd Portsea and Bishops transcript, I got a link that sent me to FMP on there I found James Toms b 1817 and d 1824 I cannot open this as I am not a member or have I got pay as you go credits, I am quite willing to get credits but can anyone tell me if the record will show the childs parents.
Thank you

Hampshire Burials Transcription
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First name(s) JAMES
Last name TOMS
Age 7
Birth year 1817
Death year 1824
Death day 19
Death month Jan
Burial year 1824
Parish Portsea St Mary
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Name: James Toms
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 22 Sep 1816
Christening Place: SAINT MARYS,PORTSEA,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date: 19 Jan 1824
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: James Toms
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Harriet
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06261-3
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 919738, 919739
Reference ID:



Citing this Record:
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N5KL-5MK : accessed 11 February 2015), James Toms, 22 Sep 1816; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 919,738, 919,739.

Thank you everyone for your help, I was hoping that I could find the childs parents,

Hampshire baptisms Transcription
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First name(s) JAMES
Last name TOMS
Birth year 1816
Baptism year 1816
Baptism day 22
Baptism month Sep
Parish PORTSEA ST MARY
Son or daughter Son
First parent's first name(s) James
Second parent first name(s) Harriet
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

I am baffled now, because I have a james Tomes/Toms b. Portsea. Father James who joined the R.N. at 16 and died in 1870 he was a gunner

Hampshire Marriages Transcription
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First name(s) JAMES
Last name TOMS
Marriage year 1805
Marriage day 9
Marriage month Sep
Place PORTSEA ST MARY
Groom's first name James
Groom's last name Toms
Bride's first name Harriet
Bride's last name Miller
Groom's notes
Bride's notes
Parish Portsea St Mary
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

Thank you safc, I thought that the parents of my James who was the gunner was Harriett and James but looks like I have got it wrong

What was the year of birth for 'your' James please?

Could he have been a second son called James born to this couple following the death of the first James?

Parents often named another child with the same name after the death of the first years ago.

If not, then do you want to post the details you have on 'your' James and we can see if we can help you work back to his parents?

Dea x

I might have missed something but aren't the parents of James (above) the same as you thought?

His marriage, he's with Frances in 1861 and is a Gunner



Name:James Tomes

Gender:Male

Marriage Date:18 Aug 1842

Marriage Place:Saint Marys,Portsea,Hampshire,England

Spouse:Frances Harding

FHL Film Number:
919748, 919749, 919750, 919751, 919752, 919753, 919754, 919755

Reference: ADM 29/70/50
Description: Original page number: 50

James TOMES; Rank: Gunner; Born: [Not Given]; Age on entry: 16; Dates served: 5 October 1831-31 December 1854; Date and Type of Application: Greenwich 1 March 1865

Date: 1864-1870

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9472853

(above could relate)

Chris :)


24 July 1893 - Portsmouth Evening News - Portsmouth, Hampshire

Death
Tome - On the 22nd ult., lost in H.M.S. Victoria, Frederick Tomes, shipwright, aged 32 years, youngest son the late James Tomes, gunner, R.N. Deeply mourned by his loving wife, children, and relatives.


1871 (Find My Past)
Frances Tomes Head - Female 51 1820 - Sussex, England
Charlotte Tomes Daughter - Female 18 1853 - Hampshire, England
George Tomes Son - Male 16 1855 - Hampshire, England
William Tomes Son - Male 12 1859 - Hampshire, England
Frederick Tomes Son - Male 10 1861 - Hampshire, England
Frances Weller Granddaughter - Female 4 1867 - Sussex, England
Street Radnor Street
Parish Portsea
City Portsmouth
County Hampshire
Registration district Portsea Island
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 1142
Folio 92
Page 28


Deaths Jun 1870 (>99%)
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Tomes James 54 Portsea 2b 304


27 April 1870 - Hampshire Advertiser - Southampton, Hampshire,

Death
On the 19th inst., in Radnor-street, Southsea, Mr. James Tomes, aged 54.


page 222 no 444 Jan 13 1870 James TOMES full age bachelor News agent 12 Radnor St & Sarah Ann WELLER full age spinster 72 S? Street married by banns X groom made his mark & bride signed fathers James TOMES Warrant Officer & Henry ? WELLER in the presence of William MOORE & Ellen P MALLEY


page 246 no 491 Mar 2 1876 John Joseph TILEMAN? Full age bachelor Seaman HMS Excellent & Charlotte TOMES full age spinster 16 Radnor Street both signed fathers Thomas TILEMAN? Dead & James TOMES dead in the presence of C C PLATT & Charlotte J KNIGHT

http://tinyurl.com/ccw7bw

(Portsea, Portsmouth & Southsea Marriages - Knightroots, from google search)

I now have a James Toms and Harriett Miller who had a son they named James w born and died in 1808, My James the one born 1816 d. 1870 who is a gunner in R.N. Married to Frances Harding.
There is also another James as safc found for me saying james born 1816 died 1824. So do you think that my James who died in 1870 was of different parentage to the others.

Perhaps he could be this one ????



James Toms

England Births and Christenings

Name: James Toms
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 19 Dec 1815
Christening Place: SAINT JOHN,PORTSEA,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name: James Toms
Mother's Name: Frances

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Bishop's transcripts for St. Mary's Church, Portsea, 1740-1835
Authors:
Church of England. St. Mary's Church (Portsea, Hampshire) (Main Author)
Church of England. St. John's Church (Portsea, Hampshire) (Added Author)
Format: Manuscript/Manuscript on Film
Language: English
Publication: Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1989
Physical: on 5 microfilm reels ; 16 mm. Add to Print List
Notes
Microfilm of original records at the Hampshire County Record Office, Winchester.
High reduction (42X) microfilm. Use high magnification reader.

Film Notes (This family history center has 5 of 5 films/fiche.)
NoteLocationCollection/ShelfFilm/DGS
Baptisms, marriages and burials, 1740-1785. Family History Library British Film 1596260 Item 3
Baptisms, marriages and burials, 1786-1814; Baptisms in St. John's, 1800-1814. Family History Library British Film 1596292
Baptisms, marriages and burials, 1815-1821; Baptisms in St. John's, 1815-1821. Family History Library British Film 1596293
Baptisms, marriages and burials, 1822-1830; Baptisms in St. John's, 1822-1827. Family History Library British Film 1596294
Baptisms, marriages and burials, 1830-1835; Baptisms in St. John's, 1829-1835. Family History Library British Film 1596295 Items 1 - 4


Bishop's Transcripts are the church's own backup copies.
http://www3.hants.gov.uk/archives


The original parish records are held in Portsmouth:
https://www.portsmouth.gov.uk/ext/events-parks-and-whats-on/libraries/portsmouth-history-centre-and-records-office.aspx

The FHL catlog listing for them is:

Parish registers for St. Mary's Church, Portsea, 1666-1875
Authors:Church of England. St. Mary's Church (Portsea, Hampshire) (Main Author)
Format: Manuscript/Manuscript on Film
Language: English
Publication: Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1975
Physical: on 32 microfilm reels ; 35 mm. Add to Print List
Notes
Microfilm of original records in the Portsmouth City Record Office, Portsmouth, formerly in the Guildhall Library.

Film Notes (This family history center has 32 of 32 films/fiche.)
NoteLocationCollection/ShelfFilm/DGS
Inventory of records; Baptisms, 1674-1710, marriages 1666-1707, burials, 1708-1674 (burials filmed backwards and upside down); another copy of baptisms, 1674-1709, marriages, 1666-1710, burials, 1675-1710; Marriages, 1710-1744, burials, 1743-1744, baptisms, 1710-1745, burials, 1711-1743; Baptisms, 1735-1748, burials, 1735-1749, marriages, 1735-1745; Baptisms, 1745-1757, marriages, 1745-1760, baptisms, 1757-1761, burials, 1745-1763, baptisms, 1761-1763. Family History Library British Film 919735
Baptisms, 1750-1765, marriages, 1750-1754, baptisms ,1765-1773; Baptisms, 1763-1777, 1779, marriages, 1764-1766, baptisms, 1777-1782, burials, 1763-1773, baptisms, 1782-1783; Baptisms, 1773-1789, burials, 1789, 1774-1789. Family History Library British Film 919736
Baptisms, 1783-1799; Baptisms, 1780-1800 (includes baptisms from St. John's Chapel), burials, 1789-1800. Family History Library British Film 919737
Baptisms, 1801-1812 (includes baptisms from St. John's Chapel), burials, 1801-1812; Baptisms, 1800-1812 (another copy). Family History Library British Film 919738
Baptisms, 1813-1822. Family History Library British Film 919739
Baptisms, 1823-1831. Family History Library British Film 919740
Baptisms, 1832-1840. Family History Library British Film 919741
Baptisms, 1841-1858. Family History Library British Film 919742
Baptisms, 1858-1873. Family History Library British Film 919743
Marriages, 1754-1783 Family History Library British Film 919744
Marriages, 1783-1798 Family History Library British Film 919745
Marriages, 1798-1806 Family History Library British Film 919746
Marriages, 1807-1815 Family History Library British Film 919747
Marriages, 1816-1819 Family History Library British Film 919748
Marriages, 1820-1828 Family History Library British Film 919749
Marriages, 1829-1837 Family History Library British Film 919750
Marriages, 1837-1842 Family History Library British Film 919751
Marriages, 1842-1846 Family History Library British Film 919752
Marriages, 1846-1850 Family History Library British Film 919753
Marriages, 1850-1855 Family History Library British Film 919754
Marriages, 1855-1858 Family History Library British Film 919755
Marriages, 1858-1862 Family History Library British Film 919756
Marriages, 1862-1865 Family History Library British Film 919757
Marriages, 1865-1869 Family History Library British Film 919758
Marriages, 1869-1873 Family History Library British Film 919759
Marriages, 1873-1875 Family History Library British Film 919760
Burials, 1813-1817 Family History Library British Film 919761
Burials, 1818-1828 Family History Library British Film 919762
Burials, 1829-1840 Family History Library British Film 919763
Burials, 1841-1853 Family History Library British Film 918872
Burials, 1853-1865 Family History Library British Film 918873
Burials, 1865-1873 Family History Library British Film 918874


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