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looking for the parents of william james parker

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Eddie

Eddie Report 16 Dec 2014 10:00

Hi to one and all happy xmas Please see if you can help I have the marriage cert of William james parker to violet maria munns dated 9/4/1921 Greenwich kent Williams father Charles occ cable hand violets father Patrick deceased William born about 1892 violet 1897 they are both living in Deptford at time of marriage someone told me that violet might of been from a gypsy line could not find a birth for her I can not find any of them in either 1901c or 1911c

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 16 Dec 2014 10:03

Have you looked for a death for Patrick?

Charles' occupation in 1921 may not have been the same as twenty (or ten) years previously

Eddie

Eddie Report 16 Dec 2014 10:11

yes can not find a Patrick any where

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 16 Dec 2014 10:12

What was Willilam's occ on the marriage cert?

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 16 Dec 2014 10:18

Where and when did William and Violet die?

This is ONLY a suggestion for William

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5, Church Street Andom Terrace, St Paul Deptford, Greenwich, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Parker Head Married Male 34 1867 General Labourer Reading, Berkshire, England Transcription
Mary Parker Wife Married Female 33 1868 - Deptford, England Transcription
Ellen Helker Step Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Deptford, England Transcription
William Parker Son - Male 10 1891 - Reading, Berkshire, England Transcription
Edward Helker Step Son - Male 9 1892 - Deptford, England Transcription
Frederick Parker Son - Male 8 1893 - London, Middlesex, England Transcription
Florence Parker Daughter - Female 3 1898 - Deptford, England Transcription
Harry Parker Son - Male 1 1900 - Deptford, England Transcription
Catherine Carter Lodger Married Female 30 1871 - Deptford, England Transcription
Thomas Carter L Son - Male 3 1898 - Deptford, England

Eddie

Eddie Report 16 Dec 2014 10:22

Williams occup was motor bus driver

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 16 Dec 2014 10:27

Who witnessed the marriage?

'deceased' father often meant 'unknown'

Eddie

Eddie Report 16 Dec 2014 10:30

witnesses grace Edward Benjamin edward

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 16 Dec 2014 10:33

?????????

Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)

Edwards Benjamin W G Jarman Greenwich 1d 2170
Jarman Grace C Edwards Greenwich 1d 2170

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 16 Dec 2014 10:42

Violet maybe??


1901 England Census about Violett Munns
Name: Violett Munns
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Deptford, Kent, England
Civil Parish: St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Deptford Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 527
Folio: 110
Page Number: 17
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members:
Name Age
John Warwick 30
Henriette Warwick 32
Violett Munns 7*****************Neice

Eddie

Eddie Report 16 Dec 2014 11:46

re 1901c violet is living with john/Henrietta warwick but if you look in the 1911c she appears to be living with the same family but their name is now taylor

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 16 Dec 2014 12:35

1937 William James and Violet Maria Parker were living 44 Hamilton Street, St Paul's Ward Deptford. From electoral rolls

EDIT .... In 1927 they were also in Hamilton Street but she was listed as Maria Violet.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Dec 2014 12:49

Baptism
County Kent
Place Deptford
Church St Paul
RegisterNumber 2175
DateOfBirth 15 Dec 1897
BaptismDate 19 Jan 1898
Forename Charles William
Sex M
FatherForename Charles
MotherForename Mary Ann
FatherSurname PARKER
MotherSurname
Abode Andom Terrace
FatherOccupation Labourer

Baptism
County Kent
Place Deptford
Church St Paul
RegisterNumber 2176
DateOfBirth 15 Dec 1897
BaptismDate 19 Jan 1898
Forename Florence Mary
Sex F
FatherForename Charles
MotherForename Mary Ann
FatherSurname PARKER
MotherSurname
Abode Andom Terrace
FatherOccupation Labourer


County Kent
Place Deptford
Church Saint Nicholas
RegisterNumber 53
MarriageDate 25 Dec 1923
GroomForename Harry
GroomSurname PARKER
GroomAge 24
GroomParish Saint Nicholas
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Labourer
GroomAbode The Stowage, deptford
BrideForename Lydia May
BrideSurname ROBERTS
BrideAge 22
BrideParish Saint Nicholas
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideAbode The Stowage, deptford
GroomFatherForename Charles
GroomFatherSurname PARKER
GroomFatherOccupation Labourer
BrideFatherForename George
BrideFatherSurname ROBERTS
BrideFatherOccupation Labourer
WitnessOneForename Timothy
WitnessOneSurname KELLCHER
WitnessTwoForename George
WitnessTwoSurname ROBERTS


County Kent
Place Deptford
Church Saint Nicholas
RegisterNumber 327
MarriageDate 20 Jul 1929
GroomForename George Stephen
GroomSurname PARKER
GroomAge 23
GroomParish Saint Nicholas
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Labourer
GroomAbode The Stowage, deptford
BrideForename Rosetta Jane
BrideSurname BRADSHAW
BrideAge 23
BrideParish Saint Nicholas
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode The Stowage, deptford
GroomFatherForename Charles
GroomFatherSurname PARKER
GroomFatherOccupation Labourer
BrideFatherForename Henry William
BrideFatherSurname BRADSHAW
BrideFatherOccupation Plasterer's Labourer
WitnessOneForename James Charles
WitnessOneSurname COWELL
WitnessTwoForename Henry William
WitnessTwoSurname BRADSHAW
Notes Third and fourth Witnesses added in the next row.


(above names 1901, from below link)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

Choccy

Choccy Report 16 Dec 2014 12:57

1871 England Census

Name:Henrietta Munn

Age:4

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1867

Relation:Daughter

Father's Name:William Munn

Mother's name:Elizabeth Munn

Gender:Female

Where born:Sittingbourne, Kent, England

Civil Parish:Milton

Ecclesiastical parish:Christchurch

County/Island:Kent
Country:England

Registration district:Gravesend

Sub-registration district:Gravesend

William Munn 30
Elizabeth Munn 26
Henrietta Munn 4
Francis Munn 1

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 891; Folio: 54; Page: 48; GSU roll: 823483.

Choccy

Choccy Report 16 Dec 2014 13:00

1881 England Census

Name:Henrietta Munns

Age:14

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1867

Relationship to Head:Daughter

Father:William Munns

Mother:Elizabeth Munns

Gender:Female

Where born:Milton Rd Sittingbourne

Civil Parish:Deptford St Paul
County/Island:London
Country:England

Street address:16 Stanhope St


Registration district: Greenwich

Sub registration district: St Paul Deptford

William Munns 41

Elizabeth Munns 36

Henrietta Munns 14

Frances Munns 11

Elizabeth Munns 8

Maria Lagday Munns 6

Mary Ann Munns 1

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 701; Folio: 106; Page: 31; GSU roll: 1341164.

Choccy

Choccy Report 16 Dec 2014 13:13


Marriages Jun 1896

MUNNS Henrietta Bethnal G. 1c 384
WARRACK John Bethnal G. 1c 384


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Dec 2014 13:13

Births Sep 1889 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------
Kelleher Ellen Greenwich 1d 978

(above possible for Ellen, 1901 1911)

Chris :)

1911 (Reference) (Find My Past)
Charles Parker Head Married Male 44 1867 Reading Berks General Labourer
Mary Ann Parker Wife Married Female 43 1868 Deptford Surry
Ellen Kellcher Stepdaughter Single Female 21 1890 Depford Hat Manufacture (looks like Kelleher)
Edward Kellcher Stepson Single Male 19 1892 Depford Carman
William Kellcher Stepson Single Male 19 1892 Appleford Berks Labourer
Fredrick Kellcher Stepson Single Male 18 1893 Peckham Surry Labourer
Florence Mary Parker Daughter - Female 13 1898 Deptford School
Harry Parker Son - Male 11 1900 Deptford School
Charles William Parker Son - Male 7 1904 Deptford School
George Stephen Parker Son - Male 5 1906 Deptford School
Alfred Earnest Parker Son - Male 5 1906 Deptford School
Albert Parker Son - Male 4 1907 Deptford -
Sidney Parker Son - Male 1 1910 Deptford
Address 2 Reginald R Deptford
Parish St Paul Deptford
County London
Registration district Greenwich
Census reference RG14PN2625 RG78PN89 RD28 SD2 ED2 SN119

(says Married 15yrs 8 children born 7 living 1 died)

edits

Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)
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Kelleher Mary Ann St. Saviour 1d 38
Kelleper Mary Ann St. Saviour 1d 38
Parker Charles St. Saviour 1d 38


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 (Ancestry)

Name: Charles Parker (Widower)
Spouse: Mary Ann Keller (Widow)
Record Type: Banns (Sept 27 Oct 4 Oct 11)
Event Date: 11 Oct 1896
Parish: All Saints, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Register
(says married 18th Oct)

Eddie

Eddie Report 16 Dec 2014 13:20

To Chris Ho that is the address on William james marriage cert its hard to read but it is stowage Deptford regards ed

Eddie

Eddie Report 16 Dec 2014 13:22

To Tenerife Sun that is them in the registers as at time of marriage she was living at 48 Hamilton street regards ed

Eddie

Eddie Report 18 Dec 2014 15:44

in the 1901c violet munns is living with john/Henrietta warrack but if you look in the 1911c they've changed their names to taylor on john warracks marriage cert 1896 there are no parents listed