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can anyone find these children on the 1901 census I have them on 1891 but cannot see them on the 1901
there father died in 1896 so what happened to them they are-
Samuel Pugh born 1876 stourbridge
David " " 1879 "
Elizabeth " " 1882 "
Martha Ann " 1886 Bilston
Laura Rose " 1887 "
On the 1891 they lived with thier father Joseph Pugh in Bilston
Thank you
Jackie

possible for david


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census



Household Information

Street SLATER STREET
Parish BILSTON
Town
City
County Staffordshire
Country ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District BRADLEY ST MARTIN
Enumeration District 2
Municipal Ward BRADLEY
Parliamentary Borough SOUTH WOLVERHAMPTON
Registration District WOLVERHAMPTON
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain

Person 1

First Name DAVID
Last Name PUGH
Birth Year 1880
Age 21
Birth Town Stourbridge
Birth County Worcestershire
Birth Place England
Relationship To Head of Household HEAD
Gender Male
Occupation LABOURER IN GALVANIZING FACTORY
Condition MARRIED
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 18
Page 4
Piece Number 2689

Person 2

First Name FLORENCE
Last Name PUGH
Birth Year 1881
Age 20
Birth Town Bilston
Birth County Staffordshire
Birth Place England
Relationship To Head of Household WIFE
Gender Female
Occupation
Condition MARRIED
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 18
Page 4
Piece Number 2689

Person 3

First Name JOSEPH
Last Name PUGH
Birth Year 1899
Age 2
Birth Town Bilston
Birth County Staffordshire
Birth Place England
Relationship To Head of Household SON
Gender Male
Occupation
Condition
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 18
Page 4
Piece Number 2689

Person 4

First Name ALICE EDITH
Last Name PUGH
Birth Year 1901
Age 0
Birth Town Bilston
Birth County Staffordshire
Birth Place England
Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER
Gender Female
Occupation
Condition
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 18
Page 4
Piece Number 2689

Double wedding for laura Rose and Martha?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Laura Rose Pugh
Name: Laura Rose Pugh
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 1038
Records on Page:
Name
William Henry Anderson
Laura Rose Pugh
Martha Pugh
John Henry Whitehead

just for ref the 1891


1891 England Census about David Bugh ( Pugh on image)
Name: David Bugh
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Bugh
Gender: Male
Where born: Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Bilston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Bilston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Bilston
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2242
Folio: 138
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Bugh 32
Samuel Bugh 15
David Bugh 12
Elizabeth Bugh 9
Rose Macguire 30 <<<<< housekeeper
Albert Bugh 8
Martha Ann Bugh 5
Laura Rose Bugh 4

Thank you Rose thats definatly David as I know he married a florence and that certainley sounds like laura and Martha
their mother was still alive but a housekeeper to enoch price al her children were name pugh but some may have been enoch prices as David was name price pugh its so confusing there was a child name lily pugh price but cannot find her she was born in 1890
thanks for your help

Thank you Polly as well

Hi Rose, where did you get that census? the one I saw on ancestry didn't have rose macquire or abert pugh on perhaps rose was laura rose's mother I'm even more confused al these kids
Jackie

Samuel and sister Elizabeth in 1901



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census



Household Information

Street BACK WARWICK STREET
Parish BILSTON
Town
City
County Staffordshire
Country ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District ST MARY'S THE VIRGIN
Enumeration District 7
Municipal Ward NEW TOWN
Parliamentary Borough SOUTH WOLVERHAMPTON
Registration District WOLVERHAMPTON
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain

Person 1

First Name SAMUEL >>>>>>>>>>>>
Last Name PUGH
Birth Year 1877
Age 24
Birth Town Stourbridge
Birth County Worcestershire
Birth Place England
Relationship To Head of Household HEAD
Gender Male
Occupation COAL MINER (HEWER)
Condition MARRIED
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 110
Page 7
Piece Number 2689

Person 2

First Name CLARA
Last Name PUGH
Birth Year 1877
Age 24
Birth Town Bilston
Birth County Staffordshire
Birth Place England
Relationship To Head of Household WIFE
Gender Female
Occupation
Condition MARRIED
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 110
Page 7
Piece Number 2689

Person 3

First Name JOSEPH
Last Name PUGH
Birth Year 1899
Age 2
Birth Town Bilston
Birth County Staffordshire
Birth Place England
Relationship To Head of Household SON
Gender Male
Occupation
Condition SINGLE
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 110
Page 7
Piece Number 2689

Person 4

First Name MARTHA
Last Name PUGH
Birth Year 1901
Age 0
Birth Town Bilston
Birth County Staffordshire
Birth Place England
Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER
Gender Female
Occupation
Condition SINGLE
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 110
Page 7
Piece Number 2689

Person 5

First Name ELIZABETH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Last Name PUGH
Birth Year 1881
Age 20
Birth Town Bilston
Birth County Staffordshire
Birth Place England
Relationship To Head of Household SISTER
Gender Female
Occupation IRON GALVANIZERS ASSISTANT
Condition SINGLE
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 110
Page 7
Piece Number 2689

Person 6

First Name FRED
Last Name PUGH
Birth Year 1879
Age 22
Birth Town Bilston
Birth County Staffordshire
Birth Place England
Relationship To Head of Household BROTHER-IN-LAW
Gender Male
Occupation BRICK MAKER
Condition SINGLE
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 110
Page 7
Piece Number 2689

possible marriage for Martha


England & Wales marriages 1837-2008


First Name MARTHA A
Last Name PUGH
Gender Female
Year 1921
Spouse JOHNSON
Image Quarter 4
Country England
County Staffordshire
District STOKE ON TRENT
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 6B
Page 563
Line Number 102
Entry Number
Category Births, Marriages & Deaths
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Collections from Great Britain

Spouse MatchSpouse Match: Martha A PUGH married William JOHNSON
First Name WILLIAM
Last Name JOHNSON
Gender Male
Year 1921
Spouse PUGH
Image Quarter 4
Country England
County Staffordshire
District STOKE ON TRENT
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 6B
Page 563
Line Number 12
Entry Number
Category Births, Marriages & Deaths
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Collections from Great Britain

Just putting this on for reference

1891 England Census about Lily P Price
Name: Lily P Price
Age: 10/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Enoch Price
Gender: Female
Where born: Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Bilston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Bilston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Bilston
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2242
Folio: 152
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Enoch Price 30
Jane Pugh 37 <<<<<< housekeeper
Henry F Price 8
Enoch Price 7
Moses Price 6
Lily P Price 10/12
View
Original
Record

View original image

Now I am confused !

1901 England Census about Enoch Price
Name: Enoch Price
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Enoch Price
Birth Place: Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Bilston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary the Virgin
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration District: Bilston
ED, institution, or vessel: 07
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2689
Folio: 120
Page Number: 27
Household schedule number: 173
Household Members:
Name Age
Enoch Price 42
Enoch Price 19
Jane Pugh 49 <<<widower Housekeeper
Lily Pugh 19 <<< boarder
Mary A Pugh 17<<<< boarder
View
Original
Record

View original image

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1272162?d=desc&page=1

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=499197.0

(some info. on above)

Chris :)


1881 (Find My Past. Reference)
Joseph Pugh Head Married Male 26 1855 Galverniser Deepfields, Worcestershire, England
Sarah J Pugh Wife Married Female 26 1855 - Netherton, Staffordshire, England
Samuel Pugh Son Single Male 4 1877 - Cradley, Worcestershire, England
David Pugh Son Single Male 1 1880 - Worcestershire, England
Margret Baker Visitor Single Female 14 1867 - Netherton, Staffordshire, England
House name Wast
Parish Wollescote
County Worcestershire
Registration district Stourbridge
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 2889
Folio 120
Page 5


West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1879
PUGH David P Stourbridge (STO) Dudley Register Office STO/074/265

http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/index.php



15 February 1893 - Birmingham Daily Post - Birmingham, West Midlands

Bilston Cruelty To Children

At the Police Court yesterday, Enoch Price, a, miner, was charged with neglecting his children. Mr. Rowland Tildesley prosecuted for the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children. The evidence showed that the children were in a most filthy condition and in rags. A fine of 20s and the costs was imposed.

Thanks Polly and Rose, think the marriages for lucy and martha in wolverhampton are more likely to be them, there is a marriage for Sarah Jane Pugh[Jane} to enoch Price in 1880 but in 1881 she is living with Joseph in Stourbridge as his wife,with samuel and David and Margaret Baker who was her sister, then in 1891 she is back with Enoch as a servant.
Jackie

Hi Chris, that was me 4yrs ago and I,m still as confused now as I was then although have a little more info I stopped researching this family but then decieded to give it another shot thats why I am appealing for help again. other than getting all the certs to see which kids belonged to who don't know how I,m going to find out and I can-not afford to get them all.
Jackie

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Hi Chris just seen the rest of the post from you wonder if that is our Enoch Jane was a servant at his house in 1891 so you wouldn't think she would let them be in that state there were
Henry age 8 in 1891, enoch 7 moses 6 don't know who their mother was as haven't found a marriage for him except the one to Sarah Jane Pugh in 1880 also on the census for 1891 is Lily Pugh Price who I presume is his child by Jane, also her daughter May born 1895 was name price Pugh and David was price Pugh also, she must have been going from one to the other.
thank you
Jackie

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Births Dec 1882 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------
Price Henry Francis Dudley 6c 80


West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1882
PRICE Henry F Sedgley Dudley Register Office SEG/136/427

http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/index.php


(possible for Henry, you need some Certs, to help I think!)


Births Jun 1894 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------
Pugh May Price Wolverhampton 6b 684

Chris :)

Thank you Chris, i know I need certs but which ones to get? there are too many to get them all, so which ones would help the most?
we have a marriage of Sarah Jane Baker married to Joseph Pugh in 1874 and a marriage of Sarah Jane Pugh married to Enoch Price in 1880 but in 1881 she was in Stourbridge with Joseph I know this census is correct because her sister Margaret Baker was with them.
So if she married Enoch why was she back with Joseph a year later?
I think I have got mixed up somewhere but there are so many things that don't add up.
Thanks for your help don't think I,m ever to get to the bottom of this
Jackie
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