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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Aug 2014 16:31

Wondering if anyone has any luck finding this family in the 1841 census...


1851 England Census
about Jasper Chandler Name:Jasper Chandler
Age:42
Estimated birth year:abt 1809
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Mary Ann Chandler
Gender:Male
Where born:Walford, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:South Stoneham
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island:Hampshire
Country:England
Registration district:South Stoneham
Sub-registration district:St Mary Extra

Household Members:

Jasper Chandler 42 (Rail Porter) Watford Hertfordshire
Mary Ann Chandler 41 Buntingford Hertfordshire
Elena Chandler 15 >>>>> Eliza.... Northend Middlesex
Sarah Chandler 13 Hamstead Middlesex
Jane Chandler 10 London Middlesex
William Chandler 9 Wandsworth Middlesex
Charles Chandler 7 Barton Hampshire
Alice Chandler 4 Barton Hampshire
Emily Chandler 2 Barton Hampshire

Thank you........Prickles. :-)

I am actually on the search for Mary Ann's maiden name.

I feel a certificate coming on! :-|

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 20 Aug 2014 16:44

not what you asked for but might be useful

Name: Jasper Chandler
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 12 Mar 1808
Christening Place: Watford, Hertford, England
Father's Name: William Chandler
Mother's Name: Anne

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Aug 2014 16:44

It's not looking good is it!

:-D

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Aug 2014 16:46

I have that but thank you Selena.

It's just the 1841 and the marriage I am after.

:-)

safc

safc Report 20 Aug 2014 16:53

????

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Kings College Hospital, St Clement Danes, Strand, Middlesex, England
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Individual transcription
First name(s) Jas
Last name Chandler
Gender Male
Age 30
Birth year 1811
Birth county -
House number -
House name -
Street Kings College Hospital
Parish or township St Clement Danes
City or borough Westminster
Town -
County Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Strand
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 731
Book number 12
Folio number 3
Page number 3
Record set 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Record collection Census
Collections from Great Britain

© brightsolid online publishing ltd

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 20 Aug 2014 16:54

Were the births of the children registered?

Are all of them the children of both jasper and mary?

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 20 Aug 2014 16:58

Possible


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census



Household Information

Street BURY MEADOWS
Parish RICKMANSWORTH
City
County Hertfordshire
Country ENGLAND
House Number
House Name
Registration District WATFORD
Town
Record set 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain

Person 1

First Name JOSHUA
Last Name CHANDLER
Birth Year 1811
Age 30
Birth County
Gender Male
Occupation
Archive Reference HO107
Book 21
Folio 10
Page 14
Piece Number 438

Person 2

First Name MARY
Last Name CHANDLER
Birth Year 1816
Age 25
Birth County IRELAND
Gender Female
Occupation
Archive Reference HO107
Book 21
Folio 10
Page 15
Piece Number 438

Person 3

First Name THOMAS
Last Name SMITH
Birth Year 1811
Age 30
Birth County
Gender Male
Occupation
Archive Reference HO107
Book 21
Folio 10
Page 15
Piece Number 438

Person 4

First Name JAMES
Last Name SMITH
Birth Year 1821
Age 20
Birth County
Gender Male
Occupation
Archive Reference HO107
Book 21
Folio 10
Page 15
Piece Number 438

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Aug 2014 16:58

That looks interesting Jacqueline. I will take a closer look at that one.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 20 Aug 2014 17:02

Jas is usually the abbreviation for James, but the chappie above was not born in county, so may be promising

His occ is P Labour...............whatever that may mean, and he's almost certainly in the workhouse

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Aug 2014 17:04

I have the registered birth of Alice and Emily's birth and baptism......so at least I have something to go on for a certificate.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 20 Aug 2014 17:14

familysearch has numerous baptisms for Mary Ann ****** 1809 to 1811 in Herts, but none is actually for Buntingford, which is a shame

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Aug 2014 17:19

Jas on the 1841 census is in the King's College Hospital.

Most of the ages have been rounded to the nearest 5 or 10......so a possibility.

I will check back on here later.........just in case there is anything of interest.

A big thank you to everyone who took the time to look.

Prickles.

Gritty

Gritty Report 20 Aug 2014 17:24

Is it possible they were living seperately? The age is a little off but if rounding down could be closer-

1841
Jasper Chandler
Gender Male
Age 25
Birth year 1816
Occ: MS (male servant?)
Born in County- No
Street Charlotte Street
Parish or township St Marylebone
City or borough St Marylebone
County Middlesex
Country England
Registration district St Marylebone
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 675
Book number 1
Folio number 9
Page number 11

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 Aug 2014 17:36

Hertfordshire Marriage Banns Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) John
Last name Chandler
Banns year 1833
Banns day 5 12 19
Banns month May
Place Watford
Marriage year 1833
Groom's first name(s) John (of this Parish. Bach)
Groom's last name Chandler
Groom's residence Watford
Bride's first name(s) Mary Ann
Bride's last name Gaddesden (of the Parish of Eaton Bray Bedfordshire)
Bride's residence Watford
County Hertfordshire
Record set Hertfordshire Marriage Banns

(just throwing in above, not seeing actual Marriage, only one on pages crossed through, or scribbled on!)

Notice 1861/71 says Bedfordshire for her.

Chris :)

http://www.hertsdirect.org/services/leisculture/heritage1/hals/indexes/

(Names Online)

(not seeing on above)

Chris in Sussex

Chris in Sussex Report 20 Aug 2014 18:32

There is a North End in Hampstead so I wonder....

1841
Name: Mary Chandler
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: St John Hampstead
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Hampstead

Piece: 674
Book: 6
Folio: 16
Page Number: 27

Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Chandler 34
Sarah Chandler 7
Mary Chandler 3
Charles Pratt 30
Fanny Pratt 10
Thomas Pratt 9
George Pratt 6

Eliza with relatves? EDIT....NO she is still with the Worboys in 1851

Name: Eliza Chandler
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St John Hampstead
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Hampstead

Piece: 674
Book: 6
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9

Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Warboys 54
Mary Warboys 54
Ann Warboys 20
Eliza Chandler 4

Chris

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Aug 2014 18:40

That all looks very interesting........especially if Jasper was in the hospital.

I think I need to purchase the youngest child Emily's birth cert and be done with it.

Much appreciated everyone.

Thank you. x

Gritty

Gritty Report 20 Aug 2014 19:08

I think it would be easier to get birth certificate- but it still would be nice to find where they were.

I know this isn't necessarily the right area but this might be worth a look for Mary and children in 1841: (none of the children were born in county)

First name(s) Mary
Last name Chandler
Gender Female
Age 30
Birth year 1811
Born in County- No
Street Abbots Worthy
Parish or township Kings Worthy
Town Abbots Worthy
County Hampshire
Registration district Winchester & Hursley
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 404
Book number 28
Folio number 4
Page number 11
Record set 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

John Gale Male 25 1816 Hampshire
Charllotte Gale Female 25 1816 Hampshire
Mary Chandler Female 30 1811 -
Mary Chandler Female 9 1832 -
Eliza Chandler Female 6 1835 -
Sarah Chandler Female 4 1837 -
Jane Chandler Female 1 1840 -

I checked for a marriage for the daughter Mary that isn't listed on the 1841- there is one that fits with father Jasper:

Marriage:-
Name: Mary Ann Chandler
Spouse: John Robins
Father: Jasper Chandler
Marriage: 18 Jan 1863 - Kennington, Surrey, England

She's later widowed and marries George Cross:

Marriage:-
Mary Ann Robins
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Age: 46
Spouse: George Cross
Spouse Age: 65
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Apr 1877
Parish: St James, Clapham Park
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Jasper Chandler
Spouse Father: George Cross
Register Type: Parish Register

EDIT: Corrected Mary's first marriage

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 20 Aug 2014 19:13

If it helps.

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Charles Chandler
Name: Charles Chandler
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 17 Mar 1844
Baptism Place: , South Stoneham, Hampshire, England
Father: Jasper Chandler
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 1041740
Reference ID: 2:1Z2RTMM

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 20 Aug 2014 19:14

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Emily Chandler
Name: Emily Chandler
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 15 Apr 1849
Baptism Place: South Stoneham,Hampshire,England
Father: Jasper Chandler
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 1041740

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 20 Aug 2014 19:16

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Alice Chandler
Name: Alice Chandler
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 13 Sep 1846
Baptism Place: South Stoneham,Hampshire,England
Father: Jasper Chandler
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 1041740