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Ship passenger list look up please.

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Jane

Jane Report 17 Jul 2014 09:09

Please can someone see if they can find the Rozenberg family on passenger lists for Uk to USA about 1901. They settled in Michigan.
Samson Rozenberg was one member of the family but do not know who he went with. The ship was probably the St Louis.

Thanks for your help

Jane

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Jul 2014 09:16

Hello Jane, you haven't given an age - is this a possible?

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Samson Rosenberg
Gender: Male
Age: 35
Birth Date: abt 1869
Departure Date: 16 Jul 1904
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: New York
Master: W J Roberts

This one is a cabinet maker and is listed with Rebecca aged 26.

BUT - it looks like their names were crossed through on the actual list so the may not have boarded the ship.

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 17 Jul 2014 09:20

Note the spelling


First name(s) SAMSON
Last name ROSENBERG
Gender Male
Age 35
Birth year 1869
Marital status M
Occupation CABINET MKR
Departure year 1904
Departure day 16
Departure month 7
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port NEW YORK
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name NEW YORK************************
Ship master's first name W J
Ship master's last name ROBERTS
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Ship square feet 14870
Ship registered tonnage 4643
Number of passengers 806
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Record collection Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States
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First name(s) Last name
REBECCA ROSENBERG Image Transcription age 26 wife

Gee

Gee Report 17 Jul 2014 09:20

What about this?



1920 United States Federal Census

Name:
Sam Roseberg
[Sampson Rosenberg]

Age:50

Birth Year:abt 1870

Birthplace:England

Home in 1920:Wolverine, Houghton, Michigan

Race:White

Gender:Male

Immigration Year:1902

Relation to Head of House:Head

Marital Status:Married

Spouse's Name:Mary J Roseberg

Father's Birthplace:Germany

Mother's Birthplace:England

Home Owned:Rent


Household Members:


Sam Roseberg 50
Mary J Roseberg 46
Lottie Roseberg 24
Sam Roseberg 16
Frederick C Roseberg 12
Fred Pope 29
[24]


Ricochet

Ricochet Report 17 Jul 2014 09:22

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Victoria Street, Camborne, Redruth, Cornwall, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Rosenberg Head Widow Female 66 1835 - Helston, Cornwall Image Transcription
Evelena Rosenberg Daughter Single Female 29 1872 Servant (Domestic) Camborne, Cornwall Image Transcription
Florence Prout Grand Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Camborne, Cornwall Image Transcription
Samson Rosenberg Son Married Male 32 1869 Tin Miner Camborne, Cornwall Image Transcription
Mary Rosenberg Daughter-In-Law Married Female 28 1873 - Camborne, Cornwall Image Transcription
John W Rosenberg Grand Son Single Male 1 1900 - Camborne, Cornwall Image Transcription
Cottie Basset Grand Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Camborne, Cornwall Image Transcription


no marriage for his name (either spelling) on freebmd

Jane

Jane Report 17 Jul 2014 09:23

HI

Sorry we do not know his age. Did he sail with any other members of the family? Was that the St Louis?

Thanks very much for your help MarieCeleste.

Jane

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Jul 2014 09:23

This looks to be the voyage that the man did travel on, but it would help if Jane confirmed the details that she does have for her Rozenberg ....

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name: Sampson Rosenberg
Gender: Male
Age: 35
Birth Date: abt 1869
Departure Date: 20 Jul 1904
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Westernland
Shipping line: American Line
Master: J B Hill

Travelling on the same ticket are: Rebecca Rosenberg (his wife, age 26); Simon Zimmerman; Shaie Soloway; Mendel Pompanski; Louis Ponter (all adults)

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 17 Jul 2014 09:26

You must have some idea of when he was born, to know that he travelled

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Jul 2014 09:28

Jane, could you tell us the background you have to Samson and how you connected to him? That way we have an idea as to how to approach this to find the correct records, rather than hypothetical.

The names of the ships are shown on the records.

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 17 Jul 2014 09:28

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
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First name(s) SAM
Last name ROSENBERG
Gender Male
Age 26
Birth year 1876
Marital status S
Occupation TAILOR
Departure year 1902
Departure day 30
Departure month 8
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port NEW YORK
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name ST LOUIS****************************
Ship master's first name F
Ship master's last name PASSOW
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Ship square feet 15732
Ship registered tonnage 5894
Number of passengers 1043
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Record collection Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States
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First name(s) Last name
BIEINE ROSENBERG

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 17 Jul 2014 09:29

OR

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
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First name(s) SAM
Last name ROSENBERG
Gender Male
Marital status S
Occupation CARPENTER
Departure year 1909
Departure day 9
Departure month 10
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port NEW YORK
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name ST LOUIS**********************
Ship master's first name J C
Ship master's last name JAMESON
Shipping line AMERICAN LINE
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Ship square feet 19838
Ship registered tonnage 11629
Number of passengers 593
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Record collection Passenger lists
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Ricochet

Ricochet Report 17 Jul 2014 09:30

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
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First name(s) SAM
Last name ROSENBERG
Gender Male
Marital status S
Occupation BUTCHER
Departure year 1911
Departure day 20
Departure month 10
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port NEW YORK
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name ST LOUIS****************
Ship official number 116669
Ship master's first name J C
Ship master's last name JAMESON
Shipping line AMERICAN LINE
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Ship square feet 6399
Ship registered tonnage 11629
Number of passengers 293
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Record collection Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd

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Ricochet

Ricochet Report 17 Jul 2014 09:31

Only two people with the surname as you have it travelled at any time on the St Louis. neither was named Sam*

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Jul 2014 09:32

Jane mentioned Michigan being where he settled, so is this him? (We could be on for ever!)

1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Sampson Rosenberg
Age in 1910: 40
Birth Year: abt 1870
Birthplace: England
Home in 1910: Calumet, Houghton, Michigan
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1893 <<<<<

Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mary Rosenberg
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: England

Household Members:
Name Age
Sampson Rosenberg 40 - works in copper mine
Mary Rosenberg 37 b England
Lottie Rosenberg 14 b England
John Rosenberg 10 b England
Samuel Rosenberg 7 b Michigan
Thomas Rosenberg 5 b Michigan
Fred Rosenberg 3 b Michigan

Note the immigration year.

Sampson arrived 1893 with Mary, Lottie & John arriving 1902. They state they've been married 12 years.

Jane

Jane Report 17 Jul 2014 09:36

Hi

Thank you Ricochet, Gins and MarieCeleste. That information is looking good. We will make a note of that information .

The information on the 1901 census is our family.

The Sampson who sailed in 1904 was married to Rebecca. The one on the 1920 census was married to Mary. So did he remarry.

There can't be many people with a name like Sampson Rosenberg ?

Thanks again

Jane

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Jul 2014 09:43

Jane, there are actually quite a few men of that name - that's why it's important you give us as much info as possible.

Given that the Samson on the 1901 was a tin miner then the 1910 & 1920 do seem likely.

Rule out the passenger lists with a Rebecca - that must be a different man. Yours was married to Mary on the 1901 and the wife is Mary on the 1910 & 1920.

The 1910 shows he immigrated 1893 but maybe that was his first trip then he went back for the family?

Jane

Jane Report 17 Jul 2014 09:45

The problem is until recently we thought this family in a photo in Michigan were the Richards family. But it turns out that they are The Rozenberg family. The photo is of three men. ? father and two sons.

Our direct line is the Richards. The Rozenberg family married into the Richards family. Sampsons father Aaron was born in Germany. Arron was my husbands Gt Gt Grandfather.

Sorry that is all we know about the family.

Thanks for helping me

Jane

Jane

Jane Report 17 Jul 2014 09:52

Thanks for that MarieCeleste. I will copy that information down make sense of it and see where we can go from here.

Thanks everyone for all your help

Jane

Gee

Gee Report 17 Jul 2014 09:52

Looks like your man



Illinois, Deaths and Stillbirths Index, 1916-1947

Name:Samson Rosenbery

Birth Date:21 Nov 1868

Birth Place:Camborne, England

Death Date:8 Jan 1937

Death Place:Waukegan, Lake, IL, USA

Burial Date:12 Jan 1937

Burial Place:Calumet, Houghton, MI, USA

Cemetery Name:Calumet

Death Age:68

Occupation:
RR Gate Tender

Race:White

Marital Status:M

Gender:Male

Residence:Kenosha, Kenosha, WI, USA

Father Name:
Aaron Rosenberg

Father Birth Place:Germany

Mother Name:
Mary Tregige

Mother Birth Place:England

Spouse Name:Mary Basset

FHL Film Number:1766277

Gee

Gee Report 17 Jul 2014 10:19

Possible death for his wife



Cook County, Illinois Death Index, 1908-1988

Name:Mary Rosenberg

Death Date:14 Jan 1946

Death Location:Cook County, IL

File Number:1717

Archive Collection Name:Cook County Genealogy Records (Deaths)

Archive repository location:Chicago, IL

Archive repository name:Cook County Clerk