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Hannah Stocks, Born Preston Lancs 1826

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Unknown

Unknown Report 26 Jun 2014 09:51

Lost the message that I sent. Many thanks for all your help. Will carry on now. Samuel and Ann Stocks had so many family members with 2 marriages that it is taking a long time. As long as it is accurate is what matters.
It is a relief to see the end with this family section but the challenge is good.
Thanks Val :-) :-)

Unknown

Unknown Report 26 Jun 2014 09:31

More thanks. I found the Thomas death and looking for a marriage found Christopher
Wilson. 1852 marriage. Stopped then for dinner(Australian time)
The 1961 Census should include a Harrison child. Your research is great and I will follow up.
Bye for now
Val :-) :-)

Unknown

Unknown Report 26 Jun 2014 09:31

More thanks. I found the Thomas death and looking for a marriage found Christopher
Wilson. 1852 marriage. Stopped then for dinner(Australian time)
The 1961 Census should include a Harrison child. Your research is great and I will follow up.
Bye for now
Val :-) :-)

Flip

Flip Report 26 Jun 2014 09:22

A widowed Hannah is with her married daughter Lydia Naylor and family in 1911 - Hannah claims to have had 9 children, but only 4 have survived to 1911.

Flip

Flip Report 26 Jun 2014 09:12

Got them:


Joseph Ryding
Age:3
Estimated birth year:1858
Relation:Son
Father's Name:Wm Ryding
Mother's name:Hannah Ryding
Gender:Male
Where born:Preston, Scotland
Civil Parish:Preston
Ecclesiastical parish:St Luke
Town:Preston
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration district:Preston
Sub-registration district:Preston
ED, institution, or vessel:59a
Neighbors:
View others on page
Household schedule number:301
Piece:3139
Folio:70
Page Number:65
Household Members:
NameAge
Wm Ryding 37
Hannah Ryding 34
Ann Ryding 12 <<<
Elizth Ryding 10 <<<
Joseph Ryding 3
Agnes Ryding 1

<<< Guess these are the Harrison children

Flip

Flip Report 26 Jun 2014 09:07


Hannah Ryding
Age:43
Estimated birth year:abt 1828
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name:William Ryding
Gender:Female
Where born:Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Halliwell
Ecclesiastical parish:St Paul
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Registration district:Bolton
Sub-registration district:Halliwell
ED, institution, or vessel:8
Household schedule number:170
Piece:3926
Folio:50
Page Number:32
Household Members:
NameAge
William Ryding 46
Hannah Ryding 43
Joseph Ryding 13
Agnes Ryding 11
Margareta Ryding 9
William Ryding 4
Lydia Ryding 1

Flip

Flip Report 26 Jun 2014 09:04

Hannah Harrison married William Riding in Walton Le Dale - this is their first child born 1858

RIDING Joseph
PrestonPreston
STOCKS <<<<
PRES/101/46

I can see them in 1871 (RYDING) but can't seem to find them in 1861

Flip

Flip Report 26 Jun 2014 08:41

Lancs bmd has 3 deaths in preston for Thomas in 1851 - this one fits with his age:

HARRISON Thomas
26
Preston Preston PRES/47/5

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Jun 2014 08:30

I think this may be the burial for that 1858 death:

Lancashire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1986

Name: Hannah Harrison
Birth Year: abt 1786
Death Age: 72
Burial Date: 12 Jul 1858
Burial Parish: Kirkham, Lancashire, England
Register Type: Parish Register
Reference Number: Pr 3218/1/18

Lived Cottam

Dea

Dea Report 26 Jun 2014 08:26

I think that death would be one of these Ginns (from LancsBMD) - None of the ages would fit with the Hannah we are looking for :-(

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1858
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
HARRISON Elizabeth Hannah 1 Whalley Preston WH/3/63
HARRISON Hannah Cope 7 Newton Manchester NEW/12/18
HARRISON Hannah 0 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/27/56
HARRISON Hannah 6 Chipping Preston CH/4/20
HARRISON Hannah 72 Broughton Preston BRO/6/13
Total records matching : 5.

Dea x

Gee

Gee Report 26 Jun 2014 08:15

Hi Val

You've hit one of those expensive brick walls, the one that requires certificates!

There is only one death in Preston after the 1851 census and before the 1861. Might be worth buying this certificate



Deaths Sep 1858

Harrison Hannah Preston 8e 303

Unknown

Unknown Report 26 Jun 2014 07:03

Many thanks. This section of the family is very complicated. A large amount were married twice and came with children from a previous marriage.this happened with Ann Stocks and Stephen Ingham.
I have really tried to sort out the Jane /Elizabeth Ellen riddle but where they all went after 1851 I cannot work out. Thanks for the 1851 census.
I was thinking along the lines of Hannah dying or remarrying but need definite proof.
They have to be on a Census somewhere. Just keep going!!
Thanks. Val :-) :-) :-)

Flip

Flip Report 26 Jun 2014 06:37

I can't see them after 1851 either :-S

Flip

Flip Report 26 Jun 2014 06:34

I think the 1841 may be right - a bit more from Lanc-opc on those 2 christenings posted by Sylvia - look at the occupation:

Baptism: 1 Oct 1848 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Ann Harrison - [Child] of Thomas Harrison & Hannah
Abode: Georges St
Occupation: Bricklayer
Baptised by: J. Wilson Curate
Register: Baptisms 1848 - 1850, Page 36, Entry 286
Source: LDS Film 93988


Baptism: 18 May 1851 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Ellen Harrison - [Child] of Thomas Harrison & Hannah
Abode: William St.
Occupation: Bricksetter
Baptised by: John Kitton, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1850 - 1852, Page 120, Entry 959
Source: LDS Film 93988

Although you would need a copy of thier marriage to confirm father's name.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 26 Jun 2014 06:31

I cannot find any of them after 1851


did one or both of the parents die?

Did Thomas die, Hannah remarry, and the girls take the name of their step father?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 26 Jun 2014 06:19

on the 1851 Census, the address for Thomas and hannah is

Court, William Street


Thomas is a Labourer

Flip

Flip Report 26 Jun 2014 06:17

A possible for Thomas in 1841 - living in William Street: EDIT _ maybe not - I think this actually reads Willow street, as found on youngest childs baptism in 1840.


Thomas Harrison
Age:15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender:Male
Where born:Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Preston
Hundred:Amounderness
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
View image
Registration district:Preston
Sub-registration district:Preston
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece:498
Book:5
Folio:36
Page Number:16


John Harrison40 (brick layer)
Nancy Harrison 40
Thomas Harrison 15
Mary Harrison 12
Gilbert Harrison 10
Ellin Harrison 4
John Harrison 3
Robert Harrison 1

Flip

Flip Report 26 Jun 2014 06:06

The parents marriage?

Marriage: 24 Apr 1824 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Samuel Stocks - Bachelor, this Parish
Ann Swindlehurst - (X), Spinster, this Parish
Witness: John Swindlehurst, (X); Ellen Stocks
Married by Banns by: Anthony Hammond
Register: Marriages 1821 - 1825, Page 195, Entry 66
Source: LDS Film 94014


Flip

Flip Report 26 Jun 2014 05:59

It looks like they changed their minds re the name - it's the right parish Sylvia - same parish as Lydia married in Aug.1851 (from lanc-opc)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 26 Jun 2014 05:48

Flip ................... :-D


great minds and all that :-)


I wonder if "Jane" was the name given to the baby at first, and then changed to Elizabeth Ellen by the time of baptism???


I cannot find a Jane Harrison with mother Hannah and father Thomas ............... and the birth date is the same