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Please can someone look up George Henry Richards and Emily Elizabeth Richards on the 1901 census for me.

According to family search

George was born in 1877 Merthyr Tydfil living in Poplar
Emily was born in Millwall c1871 (nee Roberts)

I would like to know who else is living there, Their relationship to head and possibly an address.

Thank you so much for your help.

Jane

George H Richards
Age:24
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head:Son-in-law
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Methyrtydfel, Monmouthshire, Wales
[Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales]
Civil Parish:Poplar
Ecclesiastical parish:St Luke
County/Island:London
Country:England
Street address: (4 Montague place)
Occupation: (Joiner)
Condition as to marriage:Education:
Registration district:Poplar
Sub-registration district:Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel:23
Neighbors:
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Piece:356Folio:5Page Number:2
Household schedule number:6
Household Members:
NameAge

Mary A Roberts 56 (Gravesend)
Lilian M Roberts 24 (Millwall)
Harold S Roberts 16 (Russia)
George H Richards 24
Emily E Richards 29 (Millwall)
Gertrude M Dawson 5 (granddaughter, Battersea)
Percy Clark 18 (Lodger)
John Nicol 25 (Lodger)

Thank you so much Flip. That is a really great help. We had no idea who her parents were. This will help with sending for her marriage and birth cert.

All the best

Jane

You're welcome :-)

The 1891 census shows her father to be Joseph, born c1845, Bromley - so he must have died between 1891 & 1901 as her mother is a widow in 1901.

Thank you Flip.

We can now go ahead and order her marriage cert.

All the best

Jane

Joseph Roberts
Probate Date:22 Jul 1898
Death Date:6 Jul 1898
Death Place:Middlesex, England
Registry:London, England

Joseph of 4 Montague Place, probate to his widow Mary Ann - £131 10s

Her christening, it isn't clear but think the image gives birth date of 30 September:


Emily Elizabeth Roberts
Record Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:5 Nov 1871
Father's Name:Joseph Roberts
Mother's name:Mary Ann Roberts
Parish or Poor Law Union:Millwall
Borough:Tower Hamlets
Register Type:Parish Registers

Thank you so much for all your help Flip. We have added all this information to our records.

All the best

Jane

This lady disapeared after 1923 from Plymouth. We cant find a death for her but her husband George remarried 1932.

Has anyone any suggestions as to how we can find out what happended to her.

Thank you for your help

Jane

Have you got a copy of the 2nd marriage - it should state whether George was widowed or divorced.

No not yet, but we are ordering it as we speak. I think they separated and she re married. I have looked at the two marriages for Emily E Richards to Walter Thomson in Kensington Dec 1936 and Frank E Dixon in Dec 1949 in Edmonton. I checked the deaths for Emily Dixon and Emily Thomson and the ages were wrong.

Perhaps she marriaed as Roberts?

Thank you so much for all your help Flip.

Jane

He didn't live very long after the marriage:


George Henry Richards
Probate Date:22 Mar 1933
Death Date:9 Feb 1933
Death Place:Plymouth, Devon, England
Registry:London, England

Of 43 Tresilllian Street (same as 1911 census), probate granted to his widow Evelina, £1088 8s 2d

Evelina was still at the same address when she died in 1960, (born c1872):


Evelina Richards
Probate Date:25 Feb 1960
Death Date:29 Jan 1960
Death Place:Plymouth
Registry:Exeter

Probate was granted to 2 solicitors, so no real help.

Am I right in assuming you have checked the local electoral rolls - as you know she disappeared in 1923 - or is this from some other record?

No we haven't checked the Electoral rolls. This information was in a legal document acknowledging that George Henry Davey was his son. In the same document George Henry Senior stated he was living with his wife Emily Elizabeth Richards. This was the last time we have seen her mentioned anywhere.

They were living at Tresillian Street Plymouth.

Thanks

Jane

National archives hold some divorce records, coverage is:

The survival rate of divorce case files is:
•1858-1927: almost 100%
•1928-1937: 80%
•After 1937 : less than 0.2%

But I can't see one for your couple. She obviously had grounds though!

Think until the 2nd marriage cert arrives and you can ascertain his status it is difficult to know whether to search marriages or deaths (and there are quite a lot of both!)

Thanks Flip. As you say we will just have to be patient and wait for the cert.

We are going to the National Archives in july so we can check the divorce records then.

Thank you so much for all your help

Jane.

We will also see if there is a will for him. That may help.

All the best

Jane

There is a tree on ancestry, with details of George's marriage:

1932 16 Feb Age: 54 Marriage to Evelina Rosenburg
Registry Office, Plymouth, Devon.Evelina is a spinster and George is a widower.Residence at time of marriage is 43,Tresillian Street, Plymouth.

It also claims the 1911 census is wrong, and that Emily is with her mother in Poplar (address per 1901 census), and it looks like she is - although ancestry have mis-transcribed her name as Roberts although it says Richards on the image. She must have just been visiting though, as there appears to be a couple more births for them after 1911.

It is linking to a death in Plymouth in 1930 - but the index has her middle initial as R not E - so don't know if this is correct or a mis-transcription.

Thank you so much for that information. You have been a realy great help.

All the best

Jane