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Hi there, I am looking for the Birth place of
Charles Vincent Grange
Born 1 January 1909
Died 9 March 2001

First Name CHARLES VINCENT
Last Name GRANGE
Gender Male
Year 2001
Birth Year 1909
Birth Month 1
Birth Day 1
District HAMMERSMITH & FULHAM
County London
Country England
Volume
Event Quarter 1
District Number 2601B


cremation register summary
last name Grange
first names Charles Vincent
cremation date 17 March 2001
authority Kensal Green
location West London Crematorium (Kensington And Chelsea)


Possible match for Charles Grange on 1911 Census but nothing else :-(

Hi Andrew

Is this the census that you mention?



1911 England Census

Name:Violet Grange

Age in 1911:23

Estimated birth year:abt 1888

Relation to Head:Boarder

Gender:Female

Birth Place:London, United Kingdom

Civil Parish:Islington

County/Island:London

Street address:
20 Cloudsley Or Cloudesley Place, Islington, London N

Marital Status:
Single

Occupation:HOUSE WORK

Registration district:Islington

Registration District Number:10

Sub-registration district:Barnsbury

ED, institution, or vessel:1

Piece:872

Household Members:


Name

Age

Henry Stanley 42
Eliza Kimbling 29
Emily Louisa Kimbling 11
Violet Grange 23
Charles Grange 2 <<<<<<<<<

Yes that's the one :-)

Name: Charles Grange
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Male
Age: 2
Birthplace: Islington London, London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Islington
Sub-District: Barnsbury
Parish: Islington
County: London

1911 census says both Violet and Charles born Islington

1901

Violet Grange
Age:12
Estimated birth year:abt 1889

Relation to Head:Daughter

Father:Alfred Grange

Birth Place:St Pancras, London, England


Alfred Grange 49
Daisy Grange 15
Florrie Grange 13
Violet Grange 12
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1891

Alfred Graye 39
Sarah Graye 38
Lilly Graye 14
Agnes Graye 12
Alfred Graye 10
Daisy Graye 5
Florence Grange 3
Violet Grange 2

All GRANGE on original image

Name: Violet Grange
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Birthplace: Islington London, London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Islington
Sub-District: Barnsbury
Parish: Islington
County: London

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Name: Alfred E Midson
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1915
Registration District: Islington
County: London
Event Place: Islington, London, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911): Grange
Volume: 1B
Page: 724
Line Number: 52

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Name: Violet Grange
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1915
Registration District: Pancras
County: London
Event Place: Pancras, London, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911): Sessions
Volume: 1B
Page: 375
Line Number: 87

Violet Grange probably married one of the following people
Name: Joseph Sessions

Do you have his marriage cert which might give his father's name - are you sure he was born in England?

Marriages Dec 1937 (>99%)

Grange Charles V Huntingford Westminster 1a 1244
HUNTINGFORD Vera C Grange Westminster 1a 1244

I can find the above couple in 1964 on the Electoral roll with a son.

Edit: they are on the Electoral Roll from 1945 to 1964 at the same address. There seem to be two different ERs for 1945. I was hoping one of them might be an Absent Voters list, showing that Charles was in the Services so that you could possibly get his Service Record but they both seem to just be the same people - possibly one is a copy.

that's the correct marriage in 1937, No don't have Cert.
Just noticed on 1911 Census it had Married 2 years crossed out & single entered

Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
BRAMBLE Bessie Pancras
COX Henry Charles Pancras
GRANGE Violet Margaret Pancras
PEEK Benjamin William Pancras

Yes, she was Violet Margaret


Violet Margaret Grange

Record Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:14 Apr 1889

Father's Name:Alfred Grange
Mother's name:Sarah Grange

Parish or Poor Law Union:Addlestone
County:Surrey
Register Type:Parish Registers

but that still doesn't find the birth for Charles

Violet Margaret was born 1889, Pancras
1 on Census was Born 1888, Holborn


Births Mar 1888 (>99%)
GRANGE Violet Holborn 1b 789

Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
Grange Violet Margaret Pancras 1b 183

Really not sure about this, posting for ref



Births Dec 1909

COX Charles Edward Islington 1b 326

1911

Henry C Cox 23
Violet M Cox 23 Born Kentish Town
Elsie May Cox 1


Living St pancras

One child born.

Andy

From a passenger list which is soley children


Name:
Chas V Grange
Age:12
Birth Date:abt 1909

Departure Date:22 Jul 1921
Port of Departure:Liverpool, England

Destination Port:Quebec, Canada

Ship Name:Minnedosa

Shipping line:Canadian Pacific Railway

Official Number:142717

Master:Captain Webster

Follwing on from above.



Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Charles Grange
Name:Charles Grange
Gender:Male
Estimated birth year:abt 1909
Birth Place:London, England
Age:12
Date of Arrival:30 Jul 1921
Port of Arrival:Quebec
Port of Departure:Coleshill, England
Ship Name:Minnedosa

No next of kin listed.

Andy

Looks like I may have to get his marriage Cert & see what that says.

His birth date of Jan 1st. I wonder if the person recording the detah didn't know and the date was just 'chosen' to suit his approx. age?

Andy

That Violet probably married Henry Cox - there are Cox/Grange births in Pancras and Islington but no Peek/Grange births

Don't mean to be a pain, but when you post a census, could you post the whole details please

:-)