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He may have returned to England.

Name: Charles Vincent Grance
Birth Date: abt 1910
Age: 26
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 9 Jul 1936
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Berengaria
Search Ship Database: View the 'Berengaria' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard White Star
Official Number: 144301

It is Grange on the original image and he is noted as Waiter and place of last permanent residence was USA.

He may of course have been born and raised in the USA and just married and died in England.

This is all that is coming up on the Canadian site:

Charles GRANGE
Given Name(s):Charles
Surname:GRANGE
Age:12
Gender:M
Ship:MINNEDOSA
Port of Departure:Liverpool
Date of Departure:1921-07-22
Port of Arrival:Quebec
Date of Arrival:1921-07-30
Year of Arrival:1921
Party:Roman Catholic Children
Destination:Ottawa, Ontario
Type of Records:Other Government of Canada records
Microfilm Reel Number:C-7834
Children travelling together:X21CT
Source:Library and Archives Canada
Reference:RG 76, Vol. 285, File 252093 Part 3, Documents from Immigration Branch, Central Registry Files
Item Number:96724

The children on the passenger list Mike posted were noted as "c/o Catholic Emig Assoc, Coleshill, Birmingham."

There might be more details on one of the "Home Children" sites.

Don't mean to be a pain, but when you post a census, could you post the whole details please

:-)

That Violet probably married Henry Cox - there are Cox/Grange births in Pancras and Islington but no Peek/Grange births

His birth date of Jan 1st. I wonder if the person recording the detah didn't know and the date was just 'chosen' to suit his approx. age?

Andy

Looks like I may have to get his marriage Cert & see what that says.

Follwing on from above.



Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Charles Grange
Name:Charles Grange
Gender:Male
Estimated birth year:abt 1909
Birth Place:London, England
Age:12
Date of Arrival:30 Jul 1921
Port of Arrival:Quebec
Port of Departure:Coleshill, England
Ship Name:Minnedosa

No next of kin listed.

Andy

From a passenger list which is soley children


Name:
Chas V Grange
Age:12
Birth Date:abt 1909

Departure Date:22 Jul 1921
Port of Departure:Liverpool, England

Destination Port:Quebec, Canada

Ship Name:Minnedosa

Shipping line:Canadian Pacific Railway

Official Number:142717

Master:Captain Webster

1911

Henry C Cox 23
Violet M Cox 23 Born Kentish Town
Elsie May Cox 1


Living St pancras

One child born.

Andy

Really not sure about this, posting for ref



Births Dec 1909

COX Charles Edward Islington 1b 326

Violet Margaret was born 1889, Pancras
1 on Census was Born 1888, Holborn


Births Mar 1888 (>99%)
GRANGE Violet Holborn 1b 789

Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
Grange Violet Margaret Pancras 1b 183

Yes, she was Violet Margaret


Violet Margaret Grange

Record Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:14 Apr 1889

Father's Name:Alfred Grange
Mother's name:Sarah Grange

Parish or Poor Law Union:Addlestone
County:Surrey
Register Type:Parish Registers

but that still doesn't find the birth for Charles

that's the correct marriage in 1937, No don't have Cert.
Just noticed on 1911 Census it had Married 2 years crossed out & single entered

Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
BRAMBLE Bessie Pancras
COX Henry Charles Pancras
GRANGE Violet Margaret Pancras
PEEK Benjamin William Pancras

Do you have his marriage cert which might give his father's name - are you sure he was born in England?

Marriages Dec 1937 (>99%)

Grange Charles V Huntingford Westminster 1a 1244
HUNTINGFORD Vera C Grange Westminster 1a 1244

I can find the above couple in 1964 on the Electoral roll with a son.

Edit: they are on the Electoral Roll from 1945 to 1964 at the same address. There seem to be two different ERs for 1945. I was hoping one of them might be an Absent Voters list, showing that Charles was in the Services so that you could possibly get his Service Record but they both seem to just be the same people - possibly one is a copy.

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Name: Violet Grange
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1915
Registration District: Pancras
County: London
Event Place: Pancras, London, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911): Sessions
Volume: 1B
Page: 375
Line Number: 87

Violet Grange probably married one of the following people
Name: Joseph Sessions

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Name: Alfred E Midson
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1915
Registration District: Islington
County: London
Event Place: Islington, London, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911): Grange
Volume: 1B
Page: 724
Line Number: 52

Name: Violet Grange
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Birthplace: Islington London, London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Islington
Sub-District: Barnsbury
Parish: Islington
County: London

1911 census says both Violet and Charles born Islington

1901

Violet Grange
Age:12
Estimated birth year:abt 1889

Relation to Head:Daughter

Father:Alfred Grange

Birth Place:St Pancras, London, England


Alfred Grange 49
Daisy Grange 15
Florrie Grange 13
Violet Grange 12
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1891

Alfred Graye 39
Sarah Graye 38
Lilly Graye 14
Agnes Graye 12
Alfred Graye 10
Daisy Graye 5
Florence Grange 3
Violet Grange 2

All GRANGE on original image

Name: Charles Grange
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Male
Age: 2
Birthplace: Islington London, London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Islington
Sub-District: Barnsbury
Parish: Islington
County: London