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lived at 3 st georges terrace liverpool in 1894 his son was called thomas born 1862 and i think he died in the 1933.can anyone give me some pointers/help finding info on him please.

How do you know where he was living in 1894?

Who did Thomas marry and where did he die?

Only one I can see in the area with a father called Patrick



1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

PATRICK LYONS HEAD WIDOWER Male 49 1832 TIMBER YARD LABORER GALWAY, IRELAND
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CATHERINE LYONS DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 19 1862 HOUSEKEEPER LIVERPOOL, LANCASHIRE
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JAMES LYONS SON SINGLE Male 17 1864 ORNAMENTAL PLASTERER LIVERPOOL, LANCASHIRE
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THOMAS LYONS SON SINGLE Male 15 1866 CARTER LIVERPOOL, LANCASHIRE
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ANN GILCHRIST MOTHER BOARDER WIDOW Female 50 1831 GENERAL DEALER IRELAND
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THOMAS GILCHRIST SON BOARDER SINGLE Male 16 1865 LIGHT PORTER IRELAND

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Street
MARYBONE
Parish
LIVERPOOL

the address was on thomas and catherines nee newell wedding certificate they were married in1894 on it also was a jacob lyons

That doesn't mean Patrick lived there....he could have died by then...unless he signed as a witness?

Is this them in 1911....it says married 17 years but I cannot see a marriage??

THOMAS LYONS HEAD MARRIED Male 45 1866 LIVERPOOL COUNTY OF LANCASHIRE BUILDERS LABOURER
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CATHRINE LYONS WIFE MARRIED Female 42 1869 LIVERPOOL COUNTY OF LANCASHIRE -
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THOMAS LYONS SON SINGLE Male 16 1895 LIVERPOOL COUNTY OF LANCASHIRE APPRENTICE PLASTERER
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JAMES LYONS SON - Male 14 1897 LIVERPOOL COUNTY OF LANCASHIRE APPRENTICE PLASTERER
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CATHRINE LYONS DAUGHTER - Female 13 1898 LIVERPOOL COUNTY OF LANCASHIRE SCHOOL
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NORAH LYONS DAUGHTER - Female 11 1900 LIVERPOOL COUNTY OF LANCASHIRE -
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JOSEPH LYONS SON - Male 7 1904 LIVERPOOL COUNTY OF LANCASHIRE -
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ROSE LYONS DAUGHTER - Female 5 1906 LIVERPOOL COUNTY OF LANCASHIRE -
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LILY LYONS DAUGHTER - Female 3 1908 LIVERPOOL COUNTY OF LANCASHIRE -
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DASY LYONS DAUGHTER - Female 1 1910 LIVERPOOL COUNTY OF LANCASHIRE

41 HARTNUP STREET EVERTON LIVERPOOL

Parish
EVERTON

County
Lancashire

According to the catholic marriage register it was Catherine that lived at St George's Terrace, Thomas lived at 2C 4H Rose Hill it does not give an address for his father. Jacob Lyons was a witness, he lived at 45 Berisford Street.

Christening for their oldest son:


Thomas Patricuis Lyons
Birth Date:9 Mar 1895
Baptism Date:19 Mar 1895
Parish:St Brigid, Lancashire, England
Father's Name:Thomae Lyons
Mother's name:Catherinae Newall

Godparents were Joseph Newall & Ellena Tobin

added: that's the right family in 1911 Jax, christenings for most of those children give parents Thomas/Catherine Newall.

i looked this record earlier it looks right but i have looked at so many names im beginning to think there all related. thankyou for looking for me , do you have any suggestions i could try im a bit rubbish at this.

Possible for Thomas - catholic baptism, but no godparents named:

Thomas Lyons
Birth Date:14 Aug 1865
Baptism Date:20 Aug 1865
Parish:Holy Cross, Lancashire, England
Father's Name:Patritii Lyons
Mother's name:Maria Walsh

yes thats my family Jax and Flip i have that marriage register and i have the baptism of cathrine lyons 27 nov 1897 and that address is 44 berisford st. but how do i go about finding patrick?

flip thats interesting
:-)

This looks like his sibling.............James



Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906


Name:Jowbus Lyons....also shows as James on the image

Birth Date:
20 Dec 1863

Baptism Date:
27 Dec 1863

Parish:
Holy Cross, Lancashire, England

Father's Name:
Patricii Lyons

Mother's name:
Maria Walsh

Also christened at same church, with these parents was Catharina (dob 13/3/1862) & Jowbus (20/12/1863)

Whare are you trying to go, back from Patrick or forward?

I think the 1881 census posted by Jax is the right family - so you could do with finding them 1871 see if Maria was still alive

From catholic marriages:

Patrick Lyons
Marriage Date:28 Jun 1859
Parish:St Anthony, Lancashire, England
Spouse's Name:Mary Walsh
Father's Name:Michl
Mother's name:Bridget
Spouse Father's Name:Patrick
Spouse Mother's Name:Mary

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915



Name:Patrick Lyons

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1831

Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1883

Age at Death:52

Registration district:Liverpool

Inferred County:Lancashire

Volume:8b

Page:122a


You need the certificate to check the informants name

Edit: Just checked the censuses and Pat* is last seen in 1881 so this death is a good bet

Patrick's mother appears to have remarried (catholic marriages):


Bridget Lynes
Marriage Date:16 Jun 1850
Parish:St Anthony, Lancashire, England
Spouse's Name:Patrick Conolly
Father's Name:Stephen Howly
Mother's name:Mary Howly
Spouse Father's Name:Thomas Conolly
Spouse Mother's Name:Ellen Conolly

They are on the 1851 census, the address is Howard Street -


Bridget Connoly
Age:36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name:Patrick Connoly
Gender:Female
Where born:Ireland
Civil Parish:Liverpool
Town:Liverpool
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district:Liverpool
Sub-registration district:Howard Street
D, institution, or vessel:1h
Neighbors:
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Household schedule number:125
Piece:2178
Folio:220
Page Number:37
Household Members:NameAge
Patrick Connoly 35
Bridget Connoly 36
Patrick Lyons 16 (step son)
Miche Lyons 18

thankyou everyone going to speak to my mother and digest all this info thankyou again :-D

Hi, in your opening post you say he died in 1933 (you think) - is this info you have got from one of his children? It's just you originally thought he was born c1862, but if it is the right family in 1911 then the dates are a bit out.

Added: I'm assuming you are descended from one of Thomas's children - do you know if Thomas stayed in Liverpool?