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Elizabeth A Bean (nee Conway)

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Lee50

Lee50 Report 20 Mar 2014 17:22

I want to order a birth certificate for Elizabeth Conway but I am having problems, can anyone help?

On the 1851 census it shows her age as 38 - (she was married and had the surname Bean, which I know is correct). I know she married James Bean.

I have searched 10 years either side of 1813 for a birth entry - no luck. I found an Elizabeth Ann Conway baptised in 1807 in Middlesex, but not sure if its correct as the census, which I know is correct because of the family members, so she would have been 44 not 38. Also have the problem that I found two marriage entries - Elizabeth Ann Conway and Elizabeth Anne Conway, with the names of four possible husbands on each entry, so don't know which one is correct!

The 1881 Census says she was born in Woolwich Kent and was 67 by then, but cant find an entry for her birth in Woolwich around 1813 either! :-S

Can anyone give me some advice as hope to not order the wrong certificate. I have thought about ordering the marriage certificate but don't know if it will give me much more information than I already have. Thanks.

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Mar 2014 17:29

Born before 1837 there won't be a birth certificate.

Best you can hope for is a baptism record

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Mar 2014 17:31


Name:
Elizabeth Anne Conway
full age
Marriage Date:1842

Marriage Place:Croydon, Surrey, England

Father:
John Tobias Conway

Spouse:
James William Bean

Lee50

Lee50 Report 20 Mar 2014 17:31

Oh dear :-(

How can I trace back then. Are parents always shown on baptism records?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Mar 2014 17:31

Birth certificates did not exist before the inception of the GRO - in July 1837.

If she married Bean afterJuly 1837, there will be a cert - if she knew her father, he will be named on it

Lee50

Lee50 Report 20 Mar 2014 17:34

Where did you find that! Thank you that's a big help.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Mar 2014 17:34

This is the only info you need to order the marriage cert

BEAN, James William
Registration district: Croydon
County: Surrey
Year of registration: 1842
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Volume no: 4
Page no: 59

Ordered on line from the GRO, it will cost £9.25

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Mar 2014 17:36

Mike's info was from the following FREE site

https://familysearch.org

Use it to look for her baptism

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Mar 2014 17:37

The marriage cert is on Ancestry.

Gives both as single.
James is a gardener
His father is also a Gardener

John Tobias Conway a Tailor - deceased

Lee50

Lee50 Report 20 Mar 2014 17:37

Right, worth getting the certificate to confirm what Mike has just told me here then. Thank you.

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Mar 2014 17:39

This may be Elizabeth's father'sdeath...


Name:
John Tobias Conway

Record Type:
Burial

Estimated Death Date:
abt 1819

Burial Date:
25 Nov 1819

Age:
31

Estimated birth year:
abt 1788

Parish or Poor Law Union:
Greenwich St Alphege

Borough:
Greenwich

Register Type:
Parish Register

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Mar 2014 17:39

1841 census


Person: CONWAY, Elizabeth Address: Croydon Common (Windmill Lane) Oak Cottage, Croydon


PATRICK, George M 40 1801 VIEW
PATRICK, Maria F 40 1801 VIEW
CONWAY, Elizabeth F 20 1821 VIEW
PAVITT, Richard M 11 1830 VIEW

Lee50

Lee50 Report 20 Mar 2014 17:39

Yes that's right, the family were gardeners, so it is the correct information. Thank you, much appreciated.

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Mar 2014 17:42

Found this christening but cannot vouch for it being your John Tobias.


Name: Joannes Tobias Conway
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 1789
Christening Place: GOSPORT-RC,GOSPORT,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
:
Father's Name: Tobiae Conway
:
Mother's Name: Elizabethae Daniell

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Mar 2014 17:43

Richard Pavitt ( from the 1841 census) and Mary Ann Bean were the witnesses at Elizabeth's wedding.

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Mar 2014 17:52

From someone's tree but please check it out as no sources given


Tobias Conway
Birth Abt. 1756
Death 26 Apr 1833 in Greenwich, London,England

marriage 11th June 1781 .. Alverstoke Hampshire
SPOUSE : Elizabeth Daniel1760 –

CHILDREN
Henrici Jacobi Conway1782 –
Joannes Tobias Conway1783 – <<<<< Elizabeth's father
Michael Conway1784 –
Elizabeth Conway1785 –
Priscilla Elizabeth Conway1799 – 1868


Lee50

Lee50 Report 20 Mar 2014 17:53

Ok, now I'm a bit confused. I have Mary E Bean (b1846) as Elizabeth and James daughter, so I wonder who Mary Ann Bean is?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Mar 2014 17:58

As she was a witness to the 1842 wedding, she was possibly James's sister

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Mar 2014 17:58

The person whose tree it is, appears to be descended from Priscilla Conway who married Edwin Keet in 1818

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Mar 2014 18:04

as the marriage cert is on Ancestry, you do not need to purchase a copy.

I'm sure some one on here will e-mail you the image..............

I can't offer, as I don't subscribe to Ancestry