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Thanks you Chris, that is so interesting. I gather he was a tailor by trade, but how would he have had so much influence to have helped pull off something like that I wonder???

Thanks Kucinta, that's a really big help too,

Thank you for your help, I'll see if someone will do that for me.

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/16762/pages/1585/page.pdf

(a John Tobias Conway mentioned on above, also others)

(Slop Seller. A dealer in cheap ready made clothing. google for old occupations)

Chris :)


London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 (Ancestry)
Tobias Conway
Burial
Estimated Death Date:abt 1833
Burial Date:26 Apr 1833
Age:77 Estimated birth year:abt 1756
Parish or Poor Law Union:Greenwich St Alphege
Borough:Greenwich
Register Type:Parish Register
(abode, Woolwich)


(Burial also on below link)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl


Marriage (Find My Past)
Day:11
Month:Jun
Year:1781
Groom Surname:Conway
Groom Forename:Tobias
Bride Surname:Daniel
Bride Forename:Elizabeth
Parish:Alverstoke
County:Hampshire
Record source:Hampshire Marriages
Data provider:Hampshire Genealogical Society


http://taking-stock.org.uk/Home/Dioceses/Archdiocese-of-Southwark/St-Peter-Woolwich

(mention of him on above)

???

Name: James Bean
Marriage Date: 20 Jan 1812
Archive Provided Parish: Croydon, St John
Parish as it Appears: Croydon
Spouse:
Ann Patching
Reference Number: 2888/1/29

Bach and Spin

Image pmed

????

Name: Mary Ann Bean
Baptism Date: 19 May 1813
Archive Provided Parish: Croydon, St John
Parish as it Appears: Croydon
Father: James Bean
Mother: Ann Bean
Reference Number: 2888/1/12

Father a labourer. Thornton Heath Croydon.

Name: James William Bean
Baptism Date: 1 Nov 1815
Archive Provided Parish: Croydon, St John
Parish as it Appears: Croydon
Father: James Bean
Mother: Ann Bean
Reference Number: 2888/1/12

Father a labourer. Thornton Heath

So Reggie is probably right.

Repeating marriage details to show date:

Name: James William Bean
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 16 May 1842
Archive Provided Parish: Croydon, St John
Parish as it Appears: Croydon
Spouse:
Elizabeth Ann Conway
Spouse Age: Full Age
Father: James Bean
Spouse Father: John Tobias Conway
Reference Number: 2888/1/32

Marriage image has been pmed. There appear to be 4 witnesses to the marriage on the register, two Mary Ann Beans, Richard Pavitt, and Henry P????

as the marriage cert is on Ancestry, you do not need to purchase a copy.

I'm sure some one on here will e-mail you the image..............

I can't offer, as I don't subscribe to Ancestry

The person whose tree it is, appears to be descended from Priscilla Conway who married Edwin Keet in 1818

As she was a witness to the 1842 wedding, she was possibly James's sister

Ok, now I'm a bit confused. I have Mary E Bean (b1846) as Elizabeth and James daughter, so I wonder who Mary Ann Bean is?

From someone's tree but please check it out as no sources given


Tobias Conway
Birth Abt. 1756
Death 26 Apr 1833 in Greenwich, London,England

marriage 11th June 1781 .. Alverstoke Hampshire
SPOUSE : Elizabeth Daniel1760 –

CHILDREN
Henrici Jacobi Conway1782 –
Joannes Tobias Conway1783 – <<<<< Elizabeth's father
Michael Conway1784 –
Elizabeth Conway1785 –
Priscilla Elizabeth Conway1799 – 1868

Richard Pavitt ( from the 1841 census) and Mary Ann Bean were the witnesses at Elizabeth's wedding.

Found this christening but cannot vouch for it being your John Tobias.


Name: Joannes Tobias Conway
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 1789
Christening Place: GOSPORT-RC,GOSPORT,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
:
Father's Name: Tobiae Conway
:
Mother's Name: Elizabethae Daniell

Yes that's right, the family were gardeners, so it is the correct information. Thank you, much appreciated.

1841 census


Person: CONWAY, Elizabeth Address: Croydon Common (Windmill Lane) Oak Cottage, Croydon


PATRICK, George M 40 1801 VIEW
PATRICK, Maria F 40 1801 VIEW
CONWAY, Elizabeth F 20 1821 VIEW
PAVITT, Richard M 11 1830 VIEW

This may be Elizabeth's father'sdeath...


Name:
John Tobias Conway

Record Type:
Burial

Estimated Death Date:
abt 1819

Burial Date:
25 Nov 1819

Age:
31

Estimated birth year:
abt 1788

Parish or Poor Law Union:
Greenwich St Alphege

Borough:
Greenwich

Register Type:
Parish Register

Right, worth getting the certificate to confirm what Mike has just told me here then. Thank you.

The marriage cert is on Ancestry.

Gives both as single.
James is a gardener
His father is also a Gardener

John Tobias Conway a Tailor - deceased

Mike's info was from the following FREE site

https://familysearch.org

Use it to look for her baptism

This is the only info you need to order the marriage cert

BEAN, James William
Registration district: Croydon
County: Surrey
Year of registration: 1842
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Volume no: 4
Page no: 59

Ordered on line from the GRO, it will cost £9.25