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David Ewart born Sept 1875 Eddleston,Peebleshire

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Brian

Brian Report 21 Feb 2014 20:09

Am trying to find out what happened to David Ewart. I have him on census 1881 & 91 at Eddleston and Temple,Midlothian respectively and as a witness at his brother Andrew's wedding in June 1894. Can find no UK records for him in census,marriages or deaths.
However I found travel entries for him as follows
Appears to have emmigrated ,leaving Glasgow on 2/6/1900 aboard the Sarmtian of the Alan Line and The State Line for Montreal. On the 14th of June 1900 he crossed the border from Canada to the USA. (NARA Publication M1464 Roll 6. FHL 1570714 - Historical records Border Crossings from Canada To USA 1895-1956). The passenger lists indicate that his destination was Battle Creek,Michigan, via Canada.
I have no idea how to progress the search for him after his arrival in the USA.

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Feb 2014 20:28

maybe relevant????

Name: David Ewart
Event Type: Naturalization
Event Date: 1916
Event Place: New York, New York, United States
Age:
Birth Year:
Birthplace:
Volume: Declaration of intention index 1912-1924 Eraci, Salvatore-Flaherty, Andrew
GS Film number: 001522296
Digital Folder Number: 005395008
Image Number: 00650

Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Feb 2014 20:36

familysearch.org have some US census records, but nothing popping up, that I can see, for David???

There are a couple of possible entries for him on the 1910 US census on myheritage.com but it's pay to view and I don't have any credits.

alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Feb 2014 21:17

For ref.

1891 census transcription details for: Outerston Hill, Temple Edinburgh
Print Close

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 700
Folio: 2
Page: 5
Reg. District: Temple
Sub District:
Parish: Temple Edinburgh
Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Outerston Hill, Temple Edinburgh
County: Midlothian
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
EWART, James Head Married M 45 1846 Shepherd
Tundergarth, Dumfriesshire
EWART, Isabella Wife Married F 43 1848
Hoddam, Dumfriesshire
EWART, David Son M 15 1876 Shepherd
Eddleston, Peeblesshire
EWART, Mathew Son M 13 1878 Scholar
Eddleston, Peeblesshire
EWART, Janet Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Eddleston, Peeblesshire
EWART, James Son M 5 1886
Temple, Midlothian
EWART, David Father Widower M 68 1823 Labourer
Dornoch, Dumfriesshire


Britain: outbound passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960 - person transcript
Print Close
Name: David EWART
Date of departure: 2 June 1900
Port of departure: Glasgow
Destination port: Quebec
Destination country: Canada
Date of Birth: 1876 (calculated from age)
Age: 24
Marital Status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Vanman
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 7

Ship: SARMATIAN
Official Number:
Master's name: John Brodie
Steamship Line: Allan Line And State Line
Where bound: Montreal, Canada
Square feet: 5325

The couple above him, a David and Mrs Oliver are also going to the same address of Battle Creek, Michigan.



Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956 about David Ewart
Name: David Ewart
Arrival Date: 14 Jun 1900
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Sarmatian
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Residence Place: Montreal
Age: 24
Birth Date: abt 1876
Gender: Male
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 3


David 52 and Margaret 57 Oliver are going to see Wm Oliver in Battle Creek and David Ewart is going to a friend so maybe they are not connected. The 3 of them had last been resident in Edinburgh.

Sorry I'm not finding anything for him. :-(

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Feb 2014 22:21


1881 Scotland Census about Isabella Ewart
Name: Isabella Ewart
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James Ewart
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlebie, Dumfriesshire
Registration Number: 760
Registration district: Eddleston
Civil Parish: Eddleston
County: Peeblesshire
Address: Scarcerigg Toll
Occupation: Shepherds Wife
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 10
LINE: 15
Roll: cssct1881_311
Household Members:
Name Age
James Ewart 35
Isabella Ewart 34
Andrew Ewart 10
Mary Ewart 9
Sarah Ewart 7
David Ewart 5
Matthew Ewart 3
Janet Ewart 11 Mo
David Ewart 63



1871 Scotland Census about Isabella Ewart
Name: Isabella Ewart
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James Ewart
Gender: Female
Where born: Deviock, Dumfrieshire - ie - Dornock mistranscribed
Registration Number: 777
Registration district: Roberton
Civil Parish: Roberton
County: Selkirkshire
Address: Bransholm Lough
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 28
LINE: 13
Roll: CSSCT1871_177
Household Members:
Name Age
James Ewart 24
Isabella Ewart 23
Andrew Ewart 9 Mo

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Feb 2014 22:28

EDIT: Looks like another good theory bites the dust (below)! Having looked at the image of the marriage record of James & Isabella below, I see it's the wrong marriage. James's father is David per the censuses, but the father of the one who married Isabella Moffatt is James.
It did seem like a good bet, though, in my defence - it's the only marriage between a James Ewart (and he's a shepherd) and an Isabella of any surname in the whole of Scotland 1861-1877 (per ScotlandsPeople). Could if be that the registrar got his father's name wrong?
He had made a mistake with James's name - something unreadable has been scored out, and James written in on top.
Mother's name is Mary, which is correct, though very common.
***********
David's parents married between 1861 and 1871 - per the 1871 census above.

David's mother Isabella was born in the Annan area (Hoddom per 1891 census; Middlebie per 1881; Dornock - mistranscribed as Deviock - in 1871, all parishes in Annan area, as is Canonbie)

This looks like his mother's birth, which fits the YOB in 1881 & 1891 census above:

27/06/1847 MOFFAT ISABELLA HARDIE JOHN MOFFAT/MARY BURNIE FR594 (FR594) F ANNAN /DUMFRIES 812/00 0020 0339

This would be her marriage:
1869 EWART JAMES MOFFAT ISABELLA CANONBIE /DUMFRIES 814/00 0009

In which case, this could be David's death:


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about David Ewart
Name: David Ewart
Death Place: Fitzroy, Victoria
Age: 76
Father's Name: James
Mother's name: Isbla Moffit
Registration Year: 1952
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 2486
Estimated birth year: abt 1876.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Feb 2014 22:57

James in 1851 - though the adults' ages must be mistranscribed:


1851 Scotland Census about James Ewart
Name: James Ewart
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relationship: Grandson
Father's Name: David Ewart
Mother's name: Mary Ewart
Gender: Male
Where born: Tundergarth, dumfrs
Parish Number: 851
Civil Parish: Tundergarth
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Shawhill
Occupation: At Home
ED: 2
Page: 7 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 28
LINE: 9
Roll: CSSCT1851_210
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Ewart 30 - head
Jean Ewart 48 - wife
David Ewart 33 - son
Mary Ewart 34 - son's wife
James Ewart 5 - grandson


and in 1861:


1861 Scotland Census about David Ewart
Name: David Ewart
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Ewart
Gender: Male
Where born: Dornock, Dumfriesshire
Registration Number: 841
Registration district: Middlebie
Civil Parish: Middlebie
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: Whitlees
Occupation: Agri Labourer
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 17
LINE: 3
Roll: CSSCT1861_145
Household Members:
Name Age
David Ewart 43
Mary Ewart 43
James Ewart 15
Matther Ewart 8
David Ewart Junr 11 Mo
Elizabeth Rae 22 - visitor

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Feb 2014 23:32

No, I knew was right about the James / Isabella marriage.

James's mother was Mary Boyes, according to his marriage cert.

This is the only marriage for a Mary Boyes in Dumfries-shire 1841 -51:

17/01/1845 BOYES MARY DAVID EWART/FR93 (FR93) F TUNDERGARTH /DUMFRIES 851/00 0020 0061

So my theory re David's death in Australia stands.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 22 Feb 2014 08:24

Britain: outbound passenger lists (possible ?)
1890-1960
Name:David EWART
Date of departure:16 June 1910
Port of departure:Liverpool
Passenger destination port:Sydney, Australia
Passenger destination:Sydney, Australia
Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital status:Single
Sex:Male
Occupation:Farmhand
Passenger recorded on:Page 4 of 6
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage
Jas EWART | Page 4 of 6
Ship: SOMERSET
Official Number: 118292
Master's name: B G Hayward
Steamship Line: Federal Houlder Shire
Where bound: Australia
Square feet: 3260
Registered tonnage: 4681
Passengers on voyage: 206

Chris :)

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
Mr David Ewart
Estimated birth year:abt 1889
Age:21
Arrival Date:3 Aug 1910
Arrival Port:Brisbane, Australia
Departure Port:Liverpool
Ship:Somerset
Nationality:Scottish

Mr James Ewart
Estimated birth year:
abt 1891 Age:19
Arrival Date:3 Aug 1910
Arrival Port:Brisbane, Australia
Departure Port:Liverpool
Ship:Somerset
Nationality:Scottish

(perhaps not, unless age wrong!)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Feb 2014 09:52

Following that up, Chris -
James junior was still in Scotland in 1901, but don't see him in 1911, so the above emigration could be a possibility.
[EDIT: No, see next post re 1911]

1901 Scotland Census about James Ewart
Name: James Ewart
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Isabella Ewart
Gender: Male
Where born: Temple, Edinburgh
Registration Number: 700
Registration district: Temple
Civil Parish: Temple
County: Midlothian
Address: Village
Occupation: Forrester
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 31
LINE: 7
Roll: CSSCT1901_406
Household Members:
Name Age
Mrs Isabella Ewart 53
Matthew Ewart 22
James Ewart 15 - forester


There is this in 1911, but don't know if it's him or not. Birthplace given as Edinburgh..

[EDIT: No, this isn't him in 1911 - see next post.]

1911 England Census about James Ewart
Name: James Ewart
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Birth Place: Edinburgh, Scotland
County/Island: Military
Country: England
Military Unit: Highlanders
Registration District Number: 641
ED, institution, or vessel: Malta
Piece: 34985
Household Members:
Name Age
James Ewart 21

(and many, many others)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Feb 2014 10:01

Sorry, Chris, that's not James going to Australia.
(Unless he came back again very quickly!)

He's still in Scotland in 1911.
Census:

Living in Temple, Midlothian.
Isabella Ewart, head, 62, widow, born Hoddom, Dumfries.
James Ewart, son, 25, lime kiln labourer, born Temple, Midlothian

He married in 1912, by which time he was a railway guard (don't blame him - working as a lime kiln labourer couldn't have been much fun):
1912 EWART JAMES
NEILL ELIZABETH AITKEN
BORTHWICK /MIDLOTHIAN 674/00 0003

(Usual residence Temple; father James Ewart, shepherd, deceased; mother Isabella nee Moffat.)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Feb 2014 10:05

The 1900 record of a David Ewart going to USA has his occupation as "vanman".
Brian's David is a farm labourer / shepherd, which fits with the Australian one.

Brian - what are your thoughts on all this?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Feb 2014 10:27

Isabella's death:

1917 EWART ISABELLA MOFFAT F 71 LASSWADE /MIDLOTHIAN 691/00 0029

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 22 Feb 2014 17:17

Thankyou AG, looks like you're getting there...

Chris :)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Feb 2014 17:46

Another David Ewart (apparently travelling alone), a labourer, no age given, going to Australia in 1910. And Melbourne area was where Brian's David died:


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about David Ewart
Name: David Ewart
Gender: Male
Departure Date: 24 Jun 1910
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Melbourne, Australia
Ship Name: Otway
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Otway' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Orient Line
Official Number: 128252
Master: F S Symons

Brian

Brian Report 22 Feb 2014 22:45

Many thanks to all who have responded to date. I am trying to match the information etc to what I already have.Am working on my laptop at present and will print all the information off when I am back on my desktop. It will make make things easier to do. For information my Grandfather was Matthew 1878.
With the information so far it looks that the information showing a death in Australia in 1952 is the most plausable (thanks AG!!) I had previously looked at the travel results but dismissed them as unsuitable because of the fact that they happened a lot later than the time I was looking at and age involved. I do ask where he was in 1901!!.
I have tried everything that I can think of to solve that.!!
Is it possible that he went to the USA then from there to Australia??
If he was in Australia it could explain my memories as a child of parcels from Australia with food etc. They stopped in the eary 50's

Brian

Brian

Brian Report 23 Feb 2014 16:21

Further to last post. Have now checked all the info to what I have and agree fully with AG and now agree that he went to Australia and probably died in 1952.
With regard to the scored out name that you mention a similar thing happened at the marriage on 7/10/1869. It looks as if Murray has been written then scored out and James written on top. I then noticed that the witness was Thomas MURRAY!!! It looks as if that was the confusion. Funny that it happened again later!!!

Having accepted that David went to Australia one now wonders "are there any relatives out there??"

Many thanks to you all. It has settled something that has been bugging me for ages. :-)

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Feb 2014 16:48

I noticed a marriage in 1911,

Name: David Ewart
Spouse Name: Irvine Jane Jamieson
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Number: 4518


In the 1940's this family were in Victoria, with a daughter called Annie Isobel.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 Feb 2014 17:00

1901
JAMIESON, Gilbert Head Married M 58 1833 Fisherman
Tingwall, Shetland
JAMIESON, Ann Wife Married F 40 1851 House Works
Tingwall, Shetland
JAMIESON, Margaret Daughter Unmarried F 20 1871
Tingwall, Shetland
JAMIESON, Jessie Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Tingwall, Shetland
JAMIESON, Jane Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar
Tingwall, Shetland
JAMIESON, Bertha Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar
Tingwall, Shetland
Piece: 10
Folio: 5
Page: 2
Registration District: Tingwall
Civil Parish: Tingwall
Municipal Borough:
Address: Blacksness, Tingwall, Scalloway
County: Shetland

Jane Irvine Ewart
Death Place:
Deep, Victoria Age:82
Father's Name:Gilbe Jamieson
Mother's name:Ann Arthur
Registration Year:1967
Registration Place:Victoria
Registration Number
Estimated birth year:abt 1885

(wondered yesterday about that Dee, wasn't sure if above)

(I match on S People if her)

Chris :)

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria

(above has Deaths)

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 26 February 1952

EWART.—On February 24 (suddenly) David beloved husband of Jeanie Ewart 12 May Street Deepdene and loved father of Nancy

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Feb 2014 17:34

Thinking Annie Isobel is named after their mothers??? Couldn't see any others with them, however that doesn't mean there wasn't more children.