Find Ancestors

Hi everyone. Still trying to find out death record of my grandmother and running out of ideas!! Story so far: married in 1928 to William Henry Riseborough and then divorced in 1962 ( grandfather remarried in 1962). Can find no record of her remarrying under her previous marriage name (riseborough) or maiden name (Gooch) - if indeed she did remarry) nor can I find any record of her actual death, she was born in 1908 so feel that there must be a record somewhere. HELP...where do I go from here. Many thanks in advance.
Cheers.

The full name of your grandmother


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name:Emmeline Gooch

Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1908

Registration district:Norwich

Inferred County:Norfolk

Volume:4b

Page:128



When was the last you heard of her and where was she living? Do you have her full DOB please

I wonder if the informant got the year of birth wrong?



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name:Emma Riseborough

Birth Date:17 Jan 1903

Date of Registration:Oct 2000

Age at Death:97

Registration district:North Walsham

Inferred County:Norfolk

Register Number:ER50A

District and Subdistrict:6381

Entry Number:93

Hi Gins - many thanks for your reply. Only know born June 1908 (2nd qtr) in Norwich St John Timberhell. Mother: Alice Eleanor Beckett b. 1867 and Father: Arthur Gooch b. 1862.

Was married to William Henry riseborough in 1928 in Norwich. Do not know when she separated from him and if she left the Norwich area.

Cheers.

Hi Lyn,

Think you need her birth certificate so we know her DOB, we maybe able to pick a death up with that information.

1911 (for reference):

RG14PN11259 RG78PN613 RD225 SD1 ED5 SN309
Reg. District: Norwich
Sub District: East Wymer
Parish: Norwich
Enum. District: 5
Address: 8 Hansards Lane Fishergate
County: Norfolk
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
GOOCH, Arthur Head Married M 51 1860 Brickmaker Norwich St James
GOOCH, Alice Eleanor Wife Married 21 years F 44 1867 Norfolk Shotesham
GOOCH, Arthur Son Single M 18 1893 Printer Compositor Norwich Saint Michael Thorn
GOOCH, Violet Daughter Single F 13 1898 School Norwich Saint Michael Thorn
GOOCH, Mary A May Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Norwich Saint Michael Thorn
GOOCH, Albert Son Single M 6 1905 Norwich St John
GOOCH, Emmaline Daughter Single F 2 1909 Norwich St John Timberhell
GOOCH, Walter Son Single M 1 1910 Norwich St John Timberhell

Dea x

Baptism
County Norfolk
Place Norwich
Church St John the Baptist Timberhill
RegisterNumber 369
DateOfBirth 14 Jul 1900
BaptismDate 20 Sep 1900
Forename Mary May
Sex F
FatherForename Arthur
MotherForename Alice
FatherSurname GOOCH
MotherSurname
Abode This Parish
FatherOccupation Labourer
Notes Labourer

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

(shame she isn't on above!)

Chris :)


GOOCH, ARTHUR
Rank: Private Service No: 20538 Date of Death: 13/08/1915 Age: 23 Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment 1st Bn. Panel Reference Panel 144 to 150 or 229 to 233. Memorial HELLES MEMORIAL
Additional Information:

Son of Mrs. A. E. Gooch, of 8, Chittocks Court, Rising Sun Lane. Norwich.

http://www.cwgc.org/

Does your uncle's family have any info?

She could, of course, have taken another man's surname without actually marrying

Hi Dea - many thanks for the 1911 census info.

Batmans Daughter - believe have the birth certificate - checking with my daughter.

Chris - many thanks. Typical - baptism info for sister Mary!.. Appreciate the war memorial info as did not have this info. appreciated.

Thanks all!

:-)

When her husband re-married, what was his status?

Hi Reggie... Many thanks for your reply and suggestions: No my uncle was very vague, no info available (they did not have any children). True she could have taken on her partners surname.. Do not have marriage certificate for the marriage between grandfather and his new wife, so do not know his status at that time.

Cheers.

This is Williams second marriage his marital status should be on it if he was honest off course !

Name: William H Riseborough
Spouse Surname: Chapman
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1962
Registration district: Norwich
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume Number: 4b
Page Number: 1203
Find Spouse Sylvia L Chapman


Edit there is another William H Riseborough born in Norfolk in 1929 so could be his marriage

Edit no 2 ! he is their son this is his birth

Name: William H Riseborough
Mother's Maiden Surname: Gooch
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1929
Registration district: Norwich
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume Number: 4b
Page Number: 155

So it's more likely the 1962 marriage is their son not William senior

And another son

Name: Arthur G Riseborough
Mother's Maiden Surname: Gooch
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1931
Registration district: Norwich
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume Number: 4b
Page Number: 143

Hi everyone, just come across some paperwork by accident which I think could be possibly useful info regarding my grandmother and her whereabouts from the 1960s, poss 80s. She may have moved to London and I believe joined one of the following organisations, not sure be it as a Nun/Sister or resident? Sisters of Mercy, Little Sisters of the Poor, Little Sisters of the Assumption. Does anyone know of the above organisations and how I could find out if she was involved with them??

Any help gratefully received.

Many thanks in advance.



:-)

Hi Lyn, you could try this,

http://www.sistersofmercyunion.org.uk

Their contact details are on there.

Also this site,

http://www.mercyworld.org/mercy_network/index.cfm?loadref=87

Hi BatMans Daughter will have a look. Many thanks.

:-)

Hi All

Still trying to find out information regarding my grandmother, i.e. if she re-married after her divorce to William in 1962, whereabouts after divorce and death information - she was born in 1908 so there must be a record somewhere????

Could anyone point me in the right direction to continue with my search - I am absolutely stumped..

Cheers and thanks in advance.

`lyn

this is strange i found this for emmeline gouch b. 1908 i looked up births for that year and there is only one in norwich and the only one in uk born for 1908 your one could she have come back from australia to marry

EMMELINE GOOCH
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Collections from
Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States
Country
AUSTRALIA
Title
MISS
State
New South Wales
Ship Name
SOPHOCLES
Birth Year
1908
Age
16
Ship Departure Port
LONDON

Thanks Yvonne.

Do not have any information about her leaving the country and returning unless she went to work in Australia - food for thought. (Her parents were Alice Eleanor Beckett and Arthur Gooch.)

But would there be info regarding her return from Australia, passenger list, ship?

Will have to look this one up to see if I can recognise any other names. Was there an employment status on the passenger list by her name?

Cheers for the information.

Lyn

Her name has actually been scored off that passenger list. She was a domestic and last known address was Dr Barnardo's Homes, Stepney Causeway E1. The date is Nov 1924.

The whole page is girls from Dr Barnardo's.


Not finding her anywhere though.

Name: William H Riseborough
Birth Date: abt 1908
Date of Registration: Jun 1964
Age at Death: 56
Registration district: Norwich
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 579


Name: William Henry Riseborough
Probate Date: 10 Jun 1964
Death Date: 1 May 1964
Death Place: Norwich
Registry: Norwich
Cancel


This is the one who married Sylvia Lilly Chapman in 1962. She had been married previously according to a tree on ancestry.




This is another William.

Name: William Riseborough
Birth Date: abt 1903
Date of Registration: Sep 1964
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Norwich
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 555