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Kempsters of Great Gaddesden

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Andrew

Andrew Report 16 Feb 2014 12:53

Again, thanks very much. Some useful info, some useful info on Kempsters I already had - and some more confusion ! Unfortunately it's not possible that Thomas K b1704 Aylesbury was the Thomas who was the father of the Thomas K b1720 Tring - cousins ?
I've noticed the Kempsters in NE Wales + Llanffyllin quite often in records - but how and when they arrived there from Bucks/Beds/Herts/Essex I have no idea. They are different to the S Wales Kempsters that I know who arrived there from S Somerset descended from John b Gt Gad. c1820/21

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Feb 2014 09:17

Baptism (from FMP, if fitting anywhere!)
Baptism Day:2
Baptism Month:May
Baptism Year:1720
Forenames(s):Tho
Surname:Kimpster
Father's Forename(s):Tho
Father's Occupation:Grocer
Place:Tring
County:Hertfordshire

Chris :)

http://www.bucksrecsoc.org.uk/QS-CHRON/QSCHRON6.html

Epiphany Session, 12th January, 1720-21 [7 George I] ...... A certificate that Henry Brandon, constable of Tring, co. ...... grocery ware ..... Thomas Kempster of Aylesbury similarly licensed;

(above from google, needs a look through on link!)

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D528148

Will of Thomas Kempster of Aylesbury , Buckinghamshire
Date: 02 December 1772

Gee

Gee Report 16 Feb 2014 08:56

Is this the one that you mention?



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


Name:Thomas Kempster

Gender:Male

Birth Date:31 Aug 1704

Baptism Date:10 Sep 1704

Baptism Place:Saint Mary,Aylesbury,Buckingham,England

Father: John Kempster

FHL Film Number:919220

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Feb 2014 21:57

didn't do much for me either Gins :-D :-D :-D

Gee

Gee Report 15 Feb 2014 21:23

Cripes AnnC

That's confused me!

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Feb 2014 21:14

London Family History Centre > Film Catalogue > England ...
www.londonfhc.org/content/catalogue?p=England,England... Cached
Parish registers for Hemel-Hempstead, 1558-1949: Authors: Church of England. ... Box Lane Chapel (Hemel-Hempstead, Hertfordshire : Independent) Film Notes:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Feb 2014 21:12

Hertfordshire parish registers to go online | Grow Your Own ...
growyourownfamilytree.wordpress.com/2012/02/24/... Cached

Hertfordshire parish registers to go online. ... Hemel Hempstead, Watford, ... Posted in Parish registers ...
Hertfordshire Parishes
www.fivenine.co.uk/.../_indices.htm/hertfordshire.htm Cached
Hemel Hempstead Northchurch Tring. Index to Hertfordshire Parishes Parish of Tring, Hertfordshire. Registers deposited . IGI . References #1 IGI microfiche. Baptisms.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Feb 2014 21:02

KEMPSTER contd
400 Wrexham: 6 Apr 1829 mar. by Banns (wcof) of
Jonathan BROADHURST (servant) of Neston, Co. of Chester & Maria KEMPSTER sp. otp
Wits: James BRADE, Elizabeth BROADHURST
404 Wrexham: Ethel, Gladys;
407 Wrexham: Charles;
410 Wrexham: Harriet, Maria;
416 Ruabon: 8 Jun 1896 mar. by Banns of
Abraham HEYWARD (collier) ba/23 of Acrefair s/o Henry HEYWARD (puddler Iron Works)
& Louisa KEMPSTER (x) sp/23 of Cefn d/o George KEMPSTER (baker)
6 Jul 1896 mar. by Banns of
John Richard ROBERTS (collier) ba/26 of Cefn Mawr s/o John ROBERTS (lab)
& Mary Ann KEMPSTER (x) sp/22 of Cefn Mawr d/o George KEMPSTER (baker)
417 Wrexham: John;
KEMPSTER contd
Misc: North Wales 1835 Welchpool: Ironmonger: Thomas Kempster, Berriew st
Wrexham: Chymist &/or Druggist: John Kempster, Mount st
1841 Census Wrexham Town: Mount Street: Thos. 40 Plasterer born in County
Sarah 40 not born in County
Hope Street: Chas. 25 Shoemaker born in County
Richd. 45 Navy H.P. not born in County
Charles Street: George 30 Plumber born in County
Mary 25 born in County
Eliza 4 born in County
Beast Market: Eliz 45 not born in County
Welsh Wills proved at Chester 1545-1858 (deposited at NLW):
George, Wrexham, Gent., Wdr. Administration Bond 1849
John, The Horns, Bangor. Farmer, Oct. 1826
Shropshire 1828/9 Whitchurch: Rope & twine maker: Thos. Kempster, Alkington lane
Shopkeeper: Geo. Naylor Kempster, Claypit st
KEMPSTER contd
KEMSTER 8 Overton: Martha, Mary, Maryan, Sarah, Thomas, Thos;
162 Overton:
373 Wrexham: Elizabeth;
400 Wrexham: 3 May 1824 mar. by Banns (wcop) of Peter BROWN (lab) ba. & Sarah KEMSTER (x) sp., both otp


R - Virgin Media
freespace.virgin.net/jill.farndon25/K.html Cached
d/o Tornphi--s KEMPSTER (gentleman) & Hannah ... s/o Thomas (brick layer ... 27 Jul 1700 bap/o Joseph s/o John & -----

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Feb 2014 21:01

just in case this lot fits in with your Kempsters

KEMPESTER see KEMPSTER
KEMPSTEN see COMPTON

kempster: 14th C. Yorks = a woolcomber - Culling
KEMPSTER
KEMPESTER 348 Wrexham: Aaron;
KEMPSTER 8 Overton: Ann, Anne, Jno, Lucy, Margaret, Margret, Margt, Martha, Mary, Richard, Richd,
Thomas, Thos, William;
10 Overton: John, Martha, Mary, Richard, Thomas;
11 Bangor on Dee: Elizabeth, Maria, Thomas, Will'm, William;
48 Worthenbury: Anne, John, Wm;
53 Wrexham:
75 Gresford:
132 Hanmer:
151 Hanmer:
152 Hanmer:
156A Hanmer:
162 Overton:
163A Ruabon:
165A Ruabon:
167C+D Gresford:
KEMPSTER contd
171 Bangor-on-Dee:
173 Holt:
197 Hanmer: 6 Jun 1819 bap/o John Bate KEMPSTER b/c of ------- & Ann (late of Bronington)
(single woman, now married to Richard BATE of Halghton)
207 Hanmer:
*243 Hanmer:
266C Marchwiel:
268 Wrexham: 8 Sep 1808 mar. by Lic. of Thomas Henry HINDLEY (merchant) ba. of Manchester LAN
& Dorothy MEREDITH sp. otp
Wits: R. HINDLEY jnr?, Eleanor HINDLEY, Sarah KEMPSTER,
Richd HARRISON, Arn'd HARRISON, Thos. EDGWORTH,
Hew? HARRISON, Jno PARRY
27 May 1812 mar. by Lic. of Edward EVANS (skinner) wdr. otp (Wrexham Abbot)
& Jane KEMPSTER sp. otp (Wrexham Abbot)
Wits: Jno PARRY, Sarah KEMPSTER, Peter POOLE
KEMPSTER contd
304 Wrexham: 25 Mar 1743 bap/o Elizabeth (b 17) d/o Aron
4 Sep 1745 bap/o Thos. (b 13) s/o Aaron (groom), Acton
4 Feb 1746/47 bap/o Anne (b 27) d/o Aaron (vec), Wrexham Regis
6 Mar 1747/48 bur/o Thomas s/o Aaron (victualler), Wrexham Regis
3 Jun 1748 bur/o Anne d/o Aaron (victualler), Wrexham Regis
5 Feb 1749 bap/o Anne (b 27) d/o Aaron (lab), Wrexham Regis
13 Apr 1752 bap/o Thomas (b 10) s/o Aaron (lab), Wrexham Regis
16 Apr 1752 bur/o Thos. s/o Aaron (lab), Wrexham Regis
315 Ruabon:
317 Wrexham - Dissenters' Burial Ground, Rhosddu Road MIs:
345 Rhosllanerchrugog:
356 Ruabon: Alice;
359 Rhosymedre: George, Mary Jane;
KEMPSTER contd
364 Wrexham: Mary Anne, Sarah;
366 Wrexham: 23 Feb 1826 bap/o Harriet KEMPSTER d/o John (druggist) & Harriet, Mount Street
22 Jul 1832 bap/o Horoder Kempster Jones JONES (KEMPSTER)
d/o Tornphi--s KEMPSTER (gentleman) & Hannah (cottager) of Bersham
370 Wrexham: Emma, Henry;
374 Wrexham: 30 Nov 1836 bap/o Eliza d/o John (druggist) & Mary, Mount Street
379 Wrexham: 16 Aug 1901 bap/o Ethel (b 23 Jul) d/o Thomas (brick layer) & Margaret Jane, 26 Nelson Street
380 Wrexham: 1 Feb 1903 bap/o Edward Henry (b 26 Dec)
s/o Thomas (brick layer) & Margaret Jane, 27 Cobden Road
15 May 1904 bap/o Gladys (b 15 Apr) d/o Thomas (bricklayer) & Margaret Jane, 27 Cobden Road
*384 Wrexham: 6 May 1870 bur/o Thomas Kempster BEAVAN, infant, Beast Market
384 Wrexham: 26 Jan 1869 bur/o George, aged 60, Union
23 May 1874 bur/o Thomas, aged 68, W'House
393 Wrexham: 28 Feb 1880 bur/o James, aged 30, Chester St.
5 Dec 1883 bur/o Mary, aged 70, Chester St.

21 Apr 1877 bur/o Henry RUMSBY (Kempster), aged 52, Brook St.
399 Wrexham: 21 Jun 1822 bap/o Elizabeth d/o John (druggist) & Harriet, York Street

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Feb 2014 20:45

Name:
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 10 Dec 1796
Burial Place: Great Gaddesden, Herts, England
Father's Name: Joseph Kempster
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Susannah
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B00189-0
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1537873

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Feb 2014 20:44

Name: Kempster
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1787
Birthplace: GREAT GADDESDEN AND NETTLEDEN,HERTFORD,ENGLAND
Death Date: 05 May 1787
Father's Name: Joseph Kempster
Mother's Name: Susannah
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13610-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 993732

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Feb 2014 20:43


Thomas Kempster, "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991"

Name: Thomas Kempster
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 13 Jun 1780
Burial Place: Great Gaddesden, Herts, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B00189-0
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1537873

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Feb 2014 20:42

Name: Joseph Kimpster
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 23 Feb 1751
Christening Place: GREAT GADDESDEN AND NETTLEDEN,HERTFORD,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Thomas Kimpster
Mother's Name: Sarah
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13610-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 993732

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Feb 2014 20:42

????????????

Name: James Kemster
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 20 Jul 1755
Christening Place: GREAT GADDESDEN AND NETTLEDEN,HERTFORD,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Thomas Kemster
Mother's Name: Sarah
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13610-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 993732

Andrew

Andrew Report 15 Feb 2014 17:28

Wow, that was quick - thanks for v prompt replies so far. Some of this info I had on paper - but that's the problem - cant put about 8 generations of Kempsters on my tree until I get the missing link. We know we are related as my gndfather and Ernest 'Smiling Jim' were friends and knew themselves to be cousins and I knew a Kempster in S Wales who had the same family stories as me. So now the question is the same but back a generation. -
Does anyone know where and when the Thomas Kempster who married Sarah Field, Hemel Hempstead 9/11/1738 was born ?. He had to have been born at very latest 1720 (please somebody say Aylesbury 1704 !!!)

Gee

Gee Report 15 Feb 2014 16:41

Him with his mom?


1841 England Census

Name:Susann Kempster

Age:85

Estimated birth year:abt 1756

Gender:Female

Where born:Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish:Great Gaddesden

Hundred:Dacorum

County/Island:Hertfordshire

Registration district:Hemel Hempstead

Sub-registration district:Hemel Hempstead

Piece:441

Book:2

Folio:9

Page Number:12

Household Members:

Susann Kempster 85
Joseph Kempster 60


Edit: Looks like she dies in 1844. You can find that record on freebmd




Astra

Astra Report 15 Feb 2014 16:31

Name: Joseph Kimpster
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 23 Feb 1751
Christening Place: GREAT GADDESDEN AND NETTLEDEN,HERTFORD,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Kimpster
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13610-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 993732
Reference ID:

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Feb 2014 16:28

http://www.hertsdirect.org/services/leisculture/heritage1/hals/indexes/

(Names Online, has some Info.)

Chris :)

edits (above has below)

Jos Kempster Sus Slough
Great Gaddesden 19 Jul 1779


(Find My Past has below)

Groom's Forename(s):Joseph
Groom's Surname:Kempster
Groom's Parish:Great Gaddesden
Bride's Forename(s):Susannah
Bride's Surname:Slow
Bride's Parish:Great Gaddesden
Marriage Day:19
Marriage Month:Jul
Marriage Year:1779
Place:Great Gaddesden
County:Hertfordshire
Data provider:Hertfordshire Archives & Local Studies

Gee

Gee Report 15 Feb 2014 16:24

Have you seen this?



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


Name:Joseph Kempster

Gender:Male

Baptism Date:17 Dec 1780

Baptism Place:Great Gaddesden and Nettleden,Hertford,England

Father:
Joseph Kempster

Mother:
Susannah

FHL Film Number:993732


And this for the parents marriage?



England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973

Name:Joseph Kempster

Gender:Male

Marital Status:Single

Marriage Date:19 Jul 1779

Marriage Place:Great Gaddesden, Hertford, England

Spouse:
Susannah Hough Or How

FHL Film Number:1537873

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Feb 2014 16:19

haven't you looked at.........................

https://familysearch.org/

EDIT

probably not

Name: Joseph Kempster
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 17 Dec 1780
Christening Place: Great Gaddesden, Hertford, England

Father's Name: Joseph Kempster

Mother's Name: Susannah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04738-3
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1537873
Reference ID: item 1

Now you can look for siblings............and marriage for parents

all the info is there....................................