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16 Feb 2014 12:53 |
Again, thanks very much. Some useful info, some useful info on Kempsters I already had - and some more confusion ! Unfortunately it's not possible that Thomas K b1704 Aylesbury was the Thomas who was the father of the Thomas K b1720 Tring - cousins ? I've noticed the Kempsters in NE Wales + Llanffyllin quite often in records - but how and when they arrived there from Bucks/Beds/Herts/Essex I have no idea. They are different to the S Wales Kempsters that I know who arrived there from S Somerset descended from John b Gt Gad. c1820/21
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Chris Ho :)
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16 Feb 2014 09:17 |
Baptism (from FMP, if fitting anywhere!) Baptism Day:2 Baptism Month:May Baptism Year:1720 Forenames(s):Tho Surname:Kimpster Father's Forename(s):Tho Father's Occupation:Grocer Place:Tring County:Hertfordshire
Chris :)
http://www.bucksrecsoc.org.uk/QS-CHRON/QSCHRON6.html
Epiphany Session, 12th January, 1720-21 [7 George I] ...... A certificate that Henry Brandon, constable of Tring, co. ...... grocery ware ..... Thomas Kempster of Aylesbury similarly licensed;
(above from google, needs a look through on link!)
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D528148
Will of Thomas Kempster of Aylesbury , Buckinghamshire Date: 02 December 1772
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Gee
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16 Feb 2014 08:56 |
Is this the one that you mention?
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:Thomas Kempster
Gender:Male
Birth Date:31 Aug 1704
Baptism Date:10 Sep 1704
Baptism Place:Saint Mary,Aylesbury,Buckingham,England
Father: John Kempster
FHL Film Number:919220
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 21:57 |
didn't do much for me either Gins :-D :-D :-D
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Gee
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15 Feb 2014 21:23 |
Cripes AnnC
That's confused me!
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 21:14 |
London Family History Centre > Film Catalogue > England ... www.londonfhc.org/content/catalogue?p=England,England... Cached Parish registers for Hemel-Hempstead, 1558-1949: Authors: Church of England. ... Box Lane Chapel (Hemel-Hempstead, Hertfordshire : Independent) Film Notes:
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 21:12 |
Hertfordshire parish registers to go online | Grow Your Own ... growyourownfamilytree.wordpress.com/2012/02/24/... Cached
Hertfordshire parish registers to go online. ... Hemel Hempstead, Watford, ... Posted in Parish registers ... Hertfordshire Parishes www.fivenine.co.uk/.../_indices.htm/hertfordshire.htm Cached Hemel Hempstead Northchurch Tring. Index to Hertfordshire Parishes Parish of Tring, Hertfordshire. Registers deposited . IGI . References #1 IGI microfiche. Baptisms.
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 21:02 |
KEMPSTER contd 400 Wrexham: 6 Apr 1829 mar. by Banns (wcof) of Jonathan BROADHURST (servant) of Neston, Co. of Chester & Maria KEMPSTER sp. otp Wits: James BRADE, Elizabeth BROADHURST 404 Wrexham: Ethel, Gladys; 407 Wrexham: Charles; 410 Wrexham: Harriet, Maria; 416 Ruabon: 8 Jun 1896 mar. by Banns of Abraham HEYWARD (collier) ba/23 of Acrefair s/o Henry HEYWARD (puddler Iron Works) & Louisa KEMPSTER (x) sp/23 of Cefn d/o George KEMPSTER (baker) 6 Jul 1896 mar. by Banns of John Richard ROBERTS (collier) ba/26 of Cefn Mawr s/o John ROBERTS (lab) & Mary Ann KEMPSTER (x) sp/22 of Cefn Mawr d/o George KEMPSTER (baker) 417 Wrexham: John; KEMPSTER contd Misc: North Wales 1835 Welchpool: Ironmonger: Thomas Kempster, Berriew st Wrexham: Chymist &/or Druggist: John Kempster, Mount st 1841 Census Wrexham Town: Mount Street: Thos. 40 Plasterer born in County Sarah 40 not born in County Hope Street: Chas. 25 Shoemaker born in County Richd. 45 Navy H.P. not born in County Charles Street: George 30 Plumber born in County Mary 25 born in County Eliza 4 born in County Beast Market: Eliz 45 not born in County Welsh Wills proved at Chester 1545-1858 (deposited at NLW): George, Wrexham, Gent., Wdr. Administration Bond 1849 John, The Horns, Bangor. Farmer, Oct. 1826 Shropshire 1828/9 Whitchurch: Rope & twine maker: Thos. Kempster, Alkington lane Shopkeeper: Geo. Naylor Kempster, Claypit st KEMPSTER contd KEMSTER 8 Overton: Martha, Mary, Maryan, Sarah, Thomas, Thos; 162 Overton: 373 Wrexham: Elizabeth; 400 Wrexham: 3 May 1824 mar. by Banns (wcop) of Peter BROWN (lab) ba. & Sarah KEMSTER (x) sp., both otp
R - Virgin Media freespace.virgin.net/jill.farndon25/K.html Cached d/o Tornphi--s KEMPSTER (gentleman) & Hannah ... s/o Thomas (brick layer ... 27 Jul 1700 bap/o Joseph s/o John & -----
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 21:01 |
just in case this lot fits in with your Kempsters
KEMPESTER see KEMPSTER KEMPSTEN see COMPTON
kempster: 14th C. Yorks = a woolcomber - Culling KEMPSTER KEMPESTER 348 Wrexham: Aaron; KEMPSTER 8 Overton: Ann, Anne, Jno, Lucy, Margaret, Margret, Margt, Martha, Mary, Richard, Richd, Thomas, Thos, William; 10 Overton: John, Martha, Mary, Richard, Thomas; 11 Bangor on Dee: Elizabeth, Maria, Thomas, Will'm, William; 48 Worthenbury: Anne, John, Wm; 53 Wrexham: 75 Gresford: 132 Hanmer: 151 Hanmer: 152 Hanmer: 156A Hanmer: 162 Overton: 163A Ruabon: 165A Ruabon: 167C+D Gresford: KEMPSTER contd 171 Bangor-on-Dee: 173 Holt: 197 Hanmer: 6 Jun 1819 bap/o John Bate KEMPSTER b/c of ------- & Ann (late of Bronington) (single woman, now married to Richard BATE of Halghton) 207 Hanmer: *243 Hanmer: 266C Marchwiel: 268 Wrexham: 8 Sep 1808 mar. by Lic. of Thomas Henry HINDLEY (merchant) ba. of Manchester LAN & Dorothy MEREDITH sp. otp Wits: R. HINDLEY jnr?, Eleanor HINDLEY, Sarah KEMPSTER, Richd HARRISON, Arn'd HARRISON, Thos. EDGWORTH, Hew? HARRISON, Jno PARRY 27 May 1812 mar. by Lic. of Edward EVANS (skinner) wdr. otp (Wrexham Abbot) & Jane KEMPSTER sp. otp (Wrexham Abbot) Wits: Jno PARRY, Sarah KEMPSTER, Peter POOLE KEMPSTER contd 304 Wrexham: 25 Mar 1743 bap/o Elizabeth (b 17) d/o Aron 4 Sep 1745 bap/o Thos. (b 13) s/o Aaron (groom), Acton 4 Feb 1746/47 bap/o Anne (b 27) d/o Aaron (vec), Wrexham Regis 6 Mar 1747/48 bur/o Thomas s/o Aaron (victualler), Wrexham Regis 3 Jun 1748 bur/o Anne d/o Aaron (victualler), Wrexham Regis 5 Feb 1749 bap/o Anne (b 27) d/o Aaron (lab), Wrexham Regis 13 Apr 1752 bap/o Thomas (b 10) s/o Aaron (lab), Wrexham Regis 16 Apr 1752 bur/o Thos. s/o Aaron (lab), Wrexham Regis 315 Ruabon: 317 Wrexham - Dissenters' Burial Ground, Rhosddu Road MIs: 345 Rhosllanerchrugog: 356 Ruabon: Alice; 359 Rhosymedre: George, Mary Jane; KEMPSTER contd 364 Wrexham: Mary Anne, Sarah; 366 Wrexham: 23 Feb 1826 bap/o Harriet KEMPSTER d/o John (druggist) & Harriet, Mount Street 22 Jul 1832 bap/o Horoder Kempster Jones JONES (KEMPSTER) d/o Tornphi--s KEMPSTER (gentleman) & Hannah (cottager) of Bersham 370 Wrexham: Emma, Henry; 374 Wrexham: 30 Nov 1836 bap/o Eliza d/o John (druggist) & Mary, Mount Street 379 Wrexham: 16 Aug 1901 bap/o Ethel (b 23 Jul) d/o Thomas (brick layer) & Margaret Jane, 26 Nelson Street 380 Wrexham: 1 Feb 1903 bap/o Edward Henry (b 26 Dec) s/o Thomas (brick layer) & Margaret Jane, 27 Cobden Road 15 May 1904 bap/o Gladys (b 15 Apr) d/o Thomas (bricklayer) & Margaret Jane, 27 Cobden Road *384 Wrexham: 6 May 1870 bur/o Thomas Kempster BEAVAN, infant, Beast Market 384 Wrexham: 26 Jan 1869 bur/o George, aged 60, Union 23 May 1874 bur/o Thomas, aged 68, W'House 393 Wrexham: 28 Feb 1880 bur/o James, aged 30, Chester St. 5 Dec 1883 bur/o Mary, aged 70, Chester St.
21 Apr 1877 bur/o Henry RUMSBY (Kempster), aged 52, Brook St. 399 Wrexham: 21 Jun 1822 bap/o Elizabeth d/o John (druggist) & Harriet, York Street
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 20:45 |
Name: Gender: Female Burial Date: 10 Dec 1796 Burial Place: Great Gaddesden, Herts, England Father's Name: Joseph Kempster Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Susannah Mother's Birthplace: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B00189-0 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1537873
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 20:44 |
Name: Kempster Gender: Male Birth Date: 1787 Birthplace: GREAT GADDESDEN AND NETTLEDEN,HERTFORD,ENGLAND Death Date: 05 May 1787 Father's Name: Joseph Kempster Mother's Name: Susannah Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13610-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 993732
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 20:43 |
Thomas Kempster, "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991"
Name: Thomas Kempster Gender: Male Burial Date: 13 Jun 1780 Burial Place: Great Gaddesden, Herts, England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B00189-0 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1537873
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 20:42 |
Name: Joseph Kimpster Gender: Male Christening Date: 23 Feb 1751 Christening Place: GREAT GADDESDEN AND NETTLEDEN,HERTFORD,ENGLAND Father's Name: Thomas Kimpster Mother's Name: Sarah Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13610-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 993732
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 20:42 |
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Name: James Kemster Gender: Male Christening Date: 20 Jul 1755 Christening Place: GREAT GADDESDEN AND NETTLEDEN,HERTFORD,ENGLAND Father's Name: Thomas Kemster Mother's Name: Sarah Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13610-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 993732
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Andrew
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15 Feb 2014 17:28 |
Wow, that was quick - thanks for v prompt replies so far. Some of this info I had on paper - but that's the problem - cant put about 8 generations of Kempsters on my tree until I get the missing link. We know we are related as my gndfather and Ernest 'Smiling Jim' were friends and knew themselves to be cousins and I knew a Kempster in S Wales who had the same family stories as me. So now the question is the same but back a generation. - Does anyone know where and when the Thomas Kempster who married Sarah Field, Hemel Hempstead 9/11/1738 was born ?. He had to have been born at very latest 1720 (please somebody say Aylesbury 1704 !!!)
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Gee
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15 Feb 2014 16:41 |
Him with his mom?
1841 England Census
Name:Susann Kempster
Age:85
Estimated birth year:abt 1756
Gender:Female
Where born:Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish:Great Gaddesden
Hundred:Dacorum
County/Island:Hertfordshire
Registration district:Hemel Hempstead
Sub-registration district:Hemel Hempstead
Piece:441
Book:2
Folio:9
Page Number:12
Household Members:
Susann Kempster 85 Joseph Kempster 60
Edit: Looks like she dies in 1844. You can find that record on freebmd
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15 Feb 2014 16:31 |
Name: Joseph Kimpster Gender: Male Christening Date: 23 Feb 1751 Christening Place: GREAT GADDESDEN AND NETTLEDEN,HERTFORD,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Thomas Kimpster Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Sarah Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13610-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 993732 Reference ID:
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Chris Ho :)
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15 Feb 2014 16:28 |
http://www.hertsdirect.org/services/leisculture/heritage1/hals/indexes/
(Names Online, has some Info.)
Chris :)
edits (above has below)
Jos Kempster Sus Slough Great Gaddesden 19 Jul 1779
(Find My Past has below)
Groom's Forename(s):Joseph Groom's Surname:Kempster Groom's Parish:Great Gaddesden Bride's Forename(s):Susannah Bride's Surname:Slow Bride's Parish:Great Gaddesden Marriage Day:19 Marriage Month:Jul Marriage Year:1779 Place:Great Gaddesden County:Hertfordshire Data provider:Hertfordshire Archives & Local Studies
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Gee
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15 Feb 2014 16:24 |
Have you seen this?
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:Joseph Kempster
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:17 Dec 1780
Baptism Place:Great Gaddesden and Nettleden,Hertford,England
Father: Joseph Kempster
Mother: Susannah
FHL Film Number:993732
And this for the parents marriage?
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:Joseph Kempster
Gender:Male
Marital Status:Single
Marriage Date:19 Jul 1779
Marriage Place:Great Gaddesden, Hertford, England
Spouse: Susannah Hough Or How
FHL Film Number:1537873
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ErikaH
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15 Feb 2014 16:19 |
haven't you looked at.........................
https://familysearch.org/
EDIT
probably not
Name: Joseph Kempster Gender: Male Christening Date: 17 Dec 1780 Christening Place: Great Gaddesden, Hertford, England
Father's Name: Joseph Kempster
Mother's Name: Susannah Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04738-3 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1537873 Reference ID: item 1
Now you can look for siblings............and marriage for parents
all the info is there....................................
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