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Andrew
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15 Feb 2014 16:10 |
Can anyone help find a missing link to enable me to join up the Kempsters who were in Great Gaddesden, Hertfordshire late 18th century and at least well into 19th century with my Kempster family of Aylesbury / Wingrave / Marsworth etc. 1 line of the Gaddesden family leads to Kempsters in S Wales, whilst another to the family of famous 1920's/30's speedway rider 'Smiling Jim' Kempster. I have Joseph Kempster b c1781 Herts + his wife Dorothy and children all b Gt Gaddesden, and Joseph's mother Susanne b c1755 Herts - but not his father who is most likely to be the missing link. Can anyone identify this person and/or provide the birthplace of Joseph ? Andy Miles, Nailsea, N Somerset
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ErikaH
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15 Feb 2014 16:19 |
haven't you looked at.........................
https://familysearch.org/
EDIT
probably not
Name: Joseph Kempster Gender: Male Christening Date: 17 Dec 1780 Christening Place: Great Gaddesden, Hertford, England
Father's Name: Joseph Kempster
Mother's Name: Susannah Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04738-3 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1537873 Reference ID: item 1
Now you can look for siblings............and marriage for parents
all the info is there....................................
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15 Feb 2014 16:24 |
Have you seen this?
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:Joseph Kempster
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:17 Dec 1780
Baptism Place:Great Gaddesden and Nettleden,Hertford,England
Father: Joseph Kempster
Mother: Susannah
FHL Film Number:993732
And this for the parents marriage?
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:Joseph Kempster
Gender:Male
Marital Status:Single
Marriage Date:19 Jul 1779
Marriage Place:Great Gaddesden, Hertford, England
Spouse: Susannah Hough Or How
FHL Film Number:1537873
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Chris Ho :)
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15 Feb 2014 16:28 |
http://www.hertsdirect.org/services/leisculture/heritage1/hals/indexes/
(Names Online, has some Info.)
Chris :)
edits (above has below)
Jos Kempster Sus Slough Great Gaddesden 19 Jul 1779
(Find My Past has below)
Groom's Forename(s):Joseph Groom's Surname:Kempster Groom's Parish:Great Gaddesden Bride's Forename(s):Susannah Bride's Surname:Slow Bride's Parish:Great Gaddesden Marriage Day:19 Marriage Month:Jul Marriage Year:1779 Place:Great Gaddesden County:Hertfordshire Data provider:Hertfordshire Archives & Local Studies
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15 Feb 2014 16:31 |
Name: Joseph Kimpster Gender: Male Christening Date: 23 Feb 1751 Christening Place: GREAT GADDESDEN AND NETTLEDEN,HERTFORD,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Thomas Kimpster Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Sarah Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13610-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 993732 Reference ID:
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Gee
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15 Feb 2014 16:41 |
Him with his mom?
1841 England Census
Name:Susann Kempster
Age:85
Estimated birth year:abt 1756
Gender:Female
Where born:Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish:Great Gaddesden
Hundred:Dacorum
County/Island:Hertfordshire
Registration district:Hemel Hempstead
Sub-registration district:Hemel Hempstead
Piece:441
Book:2
Folio:9
Page Number:12
Household Members:
Susann Kempster 85 Joseph Kempster 60
Edit: Looks like she dies in 1844. You can find that record on freebmd
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Andrew
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15 Feb 2014 17:28 |
Wow, that was quick - thanks for v prompt replies so far. Some of this info I had on paper - but that's the problem - cant put about 8 generations of Kempsters on my tree until I get the missing link. We know we are related as my gndfather and Ernest 'Smiling Jim' were friends and knew themselves to be cousins and I knew a Kempster in S Wales who had the same family stories as me. So now the question is the same but back a generation. - Does anyone know where and when the Thomas Kempster who married Sarah Field, Hemel Hempstead 9/11/1738 was born ?. He had to have been born at very latest 1720 (please somebody say Aylesbury 1704 !!!)
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 20:42 |
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Name: James Kemster Gender: Male Christening Date: 20 Jul 1755 Christening Place: GREAT GADDESDEN AND NETTLEDEN,HERTFORD,ENGLAND Father's Name: Thomas Kemster Mother's Name: Sarah Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13610-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 993732
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 20:42 |
Name: Joseph Kimpster Gender: Male Christening Date: 23 Feb 1751 Christening Place: GREAT GADDESDEN AND NETTLEDEN,HERTFORD,ENGLAND Father's Name: Thomas Kimpster Mother's Name: Sarah Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13610-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 993732
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 20:43 |
Thomas Kempster, "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991"
Name: Thomas Kempster Gender: Male Burial Date: 13 Jun 1780 Burial Place: Great Gaddesden, Herts, England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B00189-0 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1537873
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 20:44 |
Name: Kempster Gender: Male Birth Date: 1787 Birthplace: GREAT GADDESDEN AND NETTLEDEN,HERTFORD,ENGLAND Death Date: 05 May 1787 Father's Name: Joseph Kempster Mother's Name: Susannah Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13610-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 993732
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 20:45 |
Name: Gender: Female Burial Date: 10 Dec 1796 Burial Place: Great Gaddesden, Herts, England Father's Name: Joseph Kempster Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Susannah Mother's Birthplace: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B00189-0 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1537873
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 21:01 |
just in case this lot fits in with your Kempsters
KEMPESTER see KEMPSTER KEMPSTEN see COMPTON
kempster: 14th C. Yorks = a woolcomber - Culling KEMPSTER KEMPESTER 348 Wrexham: Aaron; KEMPSTER 8 Overton: Ann, Anne, Jno, Lucy, Margaret, Margret, Margt, Martha, Mary, Richard, Richd, Thomas, Thos, William; 10 Overton: John, Martha, Mary, Richard, Thomas; 11 Bangor on Dee: Elizabeth, Maria, Thomas, Will'm, William; 48 Worthenbury: Anne, John, Wm; 53 Wrexham: 75 Gresford: 132 Hanmer: 151 Hanmer: 152 Hanmer: 156A Hanmer: 162 Overton: 163A Ruabon: 165A Ruabon: 167C+D Gresford: KEMPSTER contd 171 Bangor-on-Dee: 173 Holt: 197 Hanmer: 6 Jun 1819 bap/o John Bate KEMPSTER b/c of ------- & Ann (late of Bronington) (single woman, now married to Richard BATE of Halghton) 207 Hanmer: *243 Hanmer: 266C Marchwiel: 268 Wrexham: 8 Sep 1808 mar. by Lic. of Thomas Henry HINDLEY (merchant) ba. of Manchester LAN & Dorothy MEREDITH sp. otp Wits: R. HINDLEY jnr?, Eleanor HINDLEY, Sarah KEMPSTER, Richd HARRISON, Arn'd HARRISON, Thos. EDGWORTH, Hew? HARRISON, Jno PARRY 27 May 1812 mar. by Lic. of Edward EVANS (skinner) wdr. otp (Wrexham Abbot) & Jane KEMPSTER sp. otp (Wrexham Abbot) Wits: Jno PARRY, Sarah KEMPSTER, Peter POOLE KEMPSTER contd 304 Wrexham: 25 Mar 1743 bap/o Elizabeth (b 17) d/o Aron 4 Sep 1745 bap/o Thos. (b 13) s/o Aaron (groom), Acton 4 Feb 1746/47 bap/o Anne (b 27) d/o Aaron (vec), Wrexham Regis 6 Mar 1747/48 bur/o Thomas s/o Aaron (victualler), Wrexham Regis 3 Jun 1748 bur/o Anne d/o Aaron (victualler), Wrexham Regis 5 Feb 1749 bap/o Anne (b 27) d/o Aaron (lab), Wrexham Regis 13 Apr 1752 bap/o Thomas (b 10) s/o Aaron (lab), Wrexham Regis 16 Apr 1752 bur/o Thos. s/o Aaron (lab), Wrexham Regis 315 Ruabon: 317 Wrexham - Dissenters' Burial Ground, Rhosddu Road MIs: 345 Rhosllanerchrugog: 356 Ruabon: Alice; 359 Rhosymedre: George, Mary Jane; KEMPSTER contd 364 Wrexham: Mary Anne, Sarah; 366 Wrexham: 23 Feb 1826 bap/o Harriet KEMPSTER d/o John (druggist) & Harriet, Mount Street 22 Jul 1832 bap/o Horoder Kempster Jones JONES (KEMPSTER) d/o Tornphi--s KEMPSTER (gentleman) & Hannah (cottager) of Bersham 370 Wrexham: Emma, Henry; 374 Wrexham: 30 Nov 1836 bap/o Eliza d/o John (druggist) & Mary, Mount Street 379 Wrexham: 16 Aug 1901 bap/o Ethel (b 23 Jul) d/o Thomas (brick layer) & Margaret Jane, 26 Nelson Street 380 Wrexham: 1 Feb 1903 bap/o Edward Henry (b 26 Dec) s/o Thomas (brick layer) & Margaret Jane, 27 Cobden Road 15 May 1904 bap/o Gladys (b 15 Apr) d/o Thomas (bricklayer) & Margaret Jane, 27 Cobden Road *384 Wrexham: 6 May 1870 bur/o Thomas Kempster BEAVAN, infant, Beast Market 384 Wrexham: 26 Jan 1869 bur/o George, aged 60, Union 23 May 1874 bur/o Thomas, aged 68, W'House 393 Wrexham: 28 Feb 1880 bur/o James, aged 30, Chester St. 5 Dec 1883 bur/o Mary, aged 70, Chester St.
21 Apr 1877 bur/o Henry RUMSBY (Kempster), aged 52, Brook St. 399 Wrexham: 21 Jun 1822 bap/o Elizabeth d/o John (druggist) & Harriet, York Street
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 21:02 |
KEMPSTER contd 400 Wrexham: 6 Apr 1829 mar. by Banns (wcof) of Jonathan BROADHURST (servant) of Neston, Co. of Chester & Maria KEMPSTER sp. otp Wits: James BRADE, Elizabeth BROADHURST 404 Wrexham: Ethel, Gladys; 407 Wrexham: Charles; 410 Wrexham: Harriet, Maria; 416 Ruabon: 8 Jun 1896 mar. by Banns of Abraham HEYWARD (collier) ba/23 of Acrefair s/o Henry HEYWARD (puddler Iron Works) & Louisa KEMPSTER (x) sp/23 of Cefn d/o George KEMPSTER (baker) 6 Jul 1896 mar. by Banns of John Richard ROBERTS (collier) ba/26 of Cefn Mawr s/o John ROBERTS (lab) & Mary Ann KEMPSTER (x) sp/22 of Cefn Mawr d/o George KEMPSTER (baker) 417 Wrexham: John; KEMPSTER contd Misc: North Wales 1835 Welchpool: Ironmonger: Thomas Kempster, Berriew st Wrexham: Chymist &/or Druggist: John Kempster, Mount st 1841 Census Wrexham Town: Mount Street: Thos. 40 Plasterer born in County Sarah 40 not born in County Hope Street: Chas. 25 Shoemaker born in County Richd. 45 Navy H.P. not born in County Charles Street: George 30 Plumber born in County Mary 25 born in County Eliza 4 born in County Beast Market: Eliz 45 not born in County Welsh Wills proved at Chester 1545-1858 (deposited at NLW): George, Wrexham, Gent., Wdr. Administration Bond 1849 John, The Horns, Bangor. Farmer, Oct. 1826 Shropshire 1828/9 Whitchurch: Rope & twine maker: Thos. Kempster, Alkington lane Shopkeeper: Geo. Naylor Kempster, Claypit st KEMPSTER contd KEMSTER 8 Overton: Martha, Mary, Maryan, Sarah, Thomas, Thos; 162 Overton: 373 Wrexham: Elizabeth; 400 Wrexham: 3 May 1824 mar. by Banns (wcop) of Peter BROWN (lab) ba. & Sarah KEMSTER (x) sp., both otp
R - Virgin Media freespace.virgin.net/jill.farndon25/K.html Cached d/o Tornphi--s KEMPSTER (gentleman) & Hannah ... s/o Thomas (brick layer ... 27 Jul 1700 bap/o Joseph s/o John & -----
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 21:12 |
Hertfordshire parish registers to go online | Grow Your Own ... growyourownfamilytree.wordpress.com/2012/02/24/... Cached
Hertfordshire parish registers to go online. ... Hemel Hempstead, Watford, ... Posted in Parish registers ... Hertfordshire Parishes www.fivenine.co.uk/.../_indices.htm/hertfordshire.htm Cached Hemel Hempstead Northchurch Tring. Index to Hertfordshire Parishes Parish of Tring, Hertfordshire. Registers deposited . IGI . References #1 IGI microfiche. Baptisms.
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 21:14 |
London Family History Centre > Film Catalogue > England ... www.londonfhc.org/content/catalogue?p=England,England... Cached Parish registers for Hemel-Hempstead, 1558-1949: Authors: Church of England. ... Box Lane Chapel (Hemel-Hempstead, Hertfordshire : Independent) Film Notes:
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Gee
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15 Feb 2014 21:23 |
Cripes AnnC
That's confused me!
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AnnCardiff
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15 Feb 2014 21:57 |
didn't do much for me either Gins :-D :-D :-D
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Gee
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16 Feb 2014 08:56 |
Is this the one that you mention?
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:Thomas Kempster
Gender:Male
Birth Date:31 Aug 1704
Baptism Date:10 Sep 1704
Baptism Place:Saint Mary,Aylesbury,Buckingham,England
Father: John Kempster
FHL Film Number:919220
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Chris Ho :)
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16 Feb 2014 09:17 |
Baptism (from FMP, if fitting anywhere!) Baptism Day:2 Baptism Month:May Baptism Year:1720 Forenames(s):Tho Surname:Kimpster Father's Forename(s):Tho Father's Occupation:Grocer Place:Tring County:Hertfordshire
Chris :)
http://www.bucksrecsoc.org.uk/QS-CHRON/QSCHRON6.html
Epiphany Session, 12th January, 1720-21 [7 George I] ...... A certificate that Henry Brandon, constable of Tring, co. ...... grocery ware ..... Thomas Kempster of Aylesbury similarly licensed;
(above from google, needs a look through on link!)
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D528148
Will of Thomas Kempster of Aylesbury , Buckinghamshire Date: 02 December 1772
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